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Very cool, Carrie!

I meant to comment on the cruising to walking thing. Dylan very quickly went from taking those few accidental steps not holding onto furniture to walking for real, I mean just a few days. So get ready!

I need to change my signature since Dylan is now 1!

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That's funny, I just remembered yesterday to change my siggie because Ava is now 1. Her skills have just exploded the past week. She has started cruising, she can climb on to her toy car my sister got her for her birthday, she can climb in and out of the baby pool my mom got her as a ball pit. She signs eat if I ask her if she's hungry, she goes to the bathroom if I sign "bath", she waves bye if she ready for someone to leave that's at our house or if we are doing an activity that she doesn't want to do anymore, she puts her head down on my shoulder and starts patting my back if she's tired and wants me to walk her to sleep because I pat her back while she's going to sleep. It's just amazing!They will all be walking before we know it!
 


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Love the invite Carrie!!! 

 

I'm so torn! Our family doesn't normally do big themed parties. But I want one. We never had a baby shower for Tenley, and so never really got a chance to do something big and exciting for her. I want to celebrate, and something more than just a bunch of her older cousins running around like crazy. But since it -would- be mostly cousins, and they're all older... I don't know how I would really do it any differently. I need to think on this some more. It's hard though, since so much of it depends on where we do the party-- which is dependent on whether we get our basement done in time. We -should-, but heck, it should have been done last year... 

 

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Finn is starting to do very toddler like things.  I just put his spaghetti on his tray, and there were a few cheerios on there from earlier.  He sat there picking all the cheerios off one by one and dropping them on the floor!  Now he's happily eating his noodles.  O BOY!  Here we go!

 

Also today he came to tell me his train was stuck.  It's one of those motorized Thomas engines.  I heard it clicking and running from the other room, but thought it was just pushed up against something or had fallen over.  He crawled out to me, and fussed while waving his arms and got my attention.  I said, "Where's your train?" and he went to crawl back to Nora's room.  He goes all the way in, goes flat on his belly, and points under the dresser!  The train was under there and he couldn't reach it, so he came to get me.  Unreal.

So adorable!!! It's amazing how quickly their brains and problem solving skills develop. Little people we haves!

 

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if we are doing an activity that she doesn't want to do anymore, she puts her head down on my shoulder and starts patting my back if she's tired and wants me to walk her to sleep because I pat her back while she's going to sleep.

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oh, what big kids Finn and Ava are!

 

JJ: There were mostly older kids at Gabe's first birthday, so I mostly focused the activities on them; we had a mini hayride, a pinata, and a big pile of leaves - they loved it. I had kids from his age (1) to 10ish, and everyone had a good time.

 

Re: birthday parties this year . . . I am struggling with how to word Gabe's to let people know to only bring the kids listed on the invite. I don't really want to pay an extra 13 bucks a head for extra kids that might show up, so I need to think of a tactful way to express this. Something like "Due to the size limitations on our party, please only bring children listed on the invitation. Any and all adults that would like to accompany them are welcome" - Honestly it is only an issue for 2 families, and I brought it up with one of them, to see what she thinks, and she doesn't think that it's appropriate to do that, in the even the olders couldn't be left at home. In her case, I know they can, because her oldest is earning $$ this summer watching the youngest while the mom works. She said to put something on the invite like, for those above and beyond our party limits, parents please be prepared to pay admission . . . I don't really like that either.

 

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What if you put something like "Please ask if you have older children you want to bring.  They may not be able to attend due to size limitations."  Blame it on the place.  When they ask you, pretend to find out, and then say you're sorry but they can't come.

And you know if one family can't come b/c they can't bring Mikey and Janey, well, oh well.  You know?  But everyone else will be ok and you'll still have tons of fun!!!

 

Lauri - AWW!  She IS getting so big.  Sigh.  Our babies are really turning into kids!!

 

So - new development.  Sleep was CRAP last night, and now Finn is crawling different.  He's on his feet and his hands (like a mowgli crawl).  He really, really wants to walk.  I wonder how long this in between cranky crap sleep frustrated stage will last.  It was about 2 weeks when he was wanting to crawl!  

 

JJ - I made up the guest list and I realized Nora is the oldest kid at this party.  Mostly it's babies and 1 year olds. I almost wish we had some older cousin type kids to watch the babies who are going to be there, but there aren't any.  So.  I have the opposite problem!  

 

We are going to Ikea today!  Should be fun.  Just going to walk around and let the kids play, and grab lunch, and hopefully I can pick up a few cute toy things for Finn's bday.

 

Oh - MW - I meant to ask you which drum you got/wanted to get?  I have one on Finn's wish list...

 

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It's filed with other little instruments.  I thought it was really cute when I saw it in person.


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Carrie ~ I didn't get anything because I didn't see one I liked. That one was at Target and I considered it for a long time. But we already have shakers and cymbals and sticks and a triangle and bells. The drum we had was torn apart so I wanted just a drum. Not a biggie. I'm hoping to get back to TRU and check the "natural" toy section that I forgot about when I was there before.

Ethan informed me that, of course I didn't find any good toys at Target. That's not a toy store. I need to go to TRU for toys. lol.gif

I find it very curious that you take the kids shopping so they can play. How do they play in a store?

Annie ~ She waves bye when she wants people to leave? Classic! I love it!

Kat ~ IDK. I'm a very upfront kind of person. I'd just tell the people that I can only afford to pay for so many kids. They would be welcome to bring their older kids if they are willing to pay the fee for them. I'm not sure how to word that on an invitation. I think if I were dealing with only 2 families, I might just call them up and tell them directly. The one family already knows now, right? So there's really only one family left that you'd need to inform. Could you put an upper age limit on the invitation, like 3 year olds and their parents only, or something like that? And then put the price for additional older kids after that?

I'm feeling overwhelming busy this week. I've had to go shopping Tuesday and yesterday (what did I do Monday?). Dylan's birthday celebration yesterday. Park day this morning if it doesn't rain. I want to walk there to get some exercise. The my mom is coming tomorrow but an old friend is back here after moving away and we are trying to get together. She suggested tomorrow evening at the pool but I guess I can't do that since I'll be waiting for my mom to arrive.

That's a kind of interesting story. One of my new homeschool mom friends was at the family pool at the Air Station and started a conversation with the woman sitting next to her. In the course of the conversation my name came up! When this other person learned that I was still here she contacted me via FB. She moved to Russia 3 or 4 years ago and I hadn't heard from her since. I can't wait to hear her stories about living there. Oh, and her DD is Ethan's secret girlfriend. She's the one he cleaned his room for. Of course, the girl doesn't know that but that's ok. hehe

I think the main reason I feel so busy is because I've been cooking dinner every night this week. DH was getting too upset about the kids not eating his dinners. He was trying to force them by making rules about dessert and bedtime. It was creating a lot of discord. So, I decided I should take over dinner. That way the kids will have some say in what is made and dh won't do the whole, "I slaved in the kitchen," passive/aggressive act. It's a little tricky because I have to try to make it paleo but still palatable to the kids. On top of that, Ethan wants to do a different country/style of food every night so I'm searching for international paleo recipes.

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I find it very curious that you take the kids shopping so they can play. How do they play in a store?

Kat ~ IDK. I'm a very upfront kind of person. I'd just tell the people that I can only afford to pay for so many kids. They would be welcome to bring their older kids if they are willing to pay the fee for them. I'm not sure how to word that on an invitation. I think if I were dealing with only 2 families, I might just call them up and tell them directly. The one family already knows now, right? So there's really only one family left that you'd need to inform. Could you put an upper age limit on the invitation, like 3 year olds and their parents only, or something like that? And then put the price for additional older kids after that?
I'm feeling overwhelming busy this week. I've had to go shopping Tuesday and yesterday (what did I do Monday?). Dylan's birthday celebration yesterday. Park day this morning if it doesn't rain. I want to walk there to get some exercise. The my mom is coming tomorrow but an old friend is back here after moving away and we are trying to get together. She suggested tomorrow evening at the pool but I guess I can't do that since I'll be waiting for my mom to arrive.
That's a kind of interesting story. One of my new homeschool mom friends was at the family pool at the Air Station and started a conversation with the woman sitting next to her. In the course of the conversation my name came up! When this other person learned that I was still here she contacted me via FB. She moved to Russia 3 or 4 years ago and I hadn't heard from her since. I can't wait to hear her stories about living there. Oh, and her DD is Ethan's secret girlfriend. She's the one he cleaned his room for. Of course, the girl doesn't know that but that's ok. hehe
I think the main reason I feel so busy is because I've been cooking dinner every night this week. DH was getting too upset about the kids not eating his dinners. He was trying to force them by making rules about dessert and bedtime. It was creating a lot of discord. So, I decided I should take over dinner. That way the kids will have some say in what is made and dh won't do the whole, "I slaved in the kitchen," passive/aggressive act. It's a little tricky because I have to try to make it paleo but still palatable to the kids. On top of that, Ethan wants to do a different country/style of food every night so I'm searching for international paleo recipes.

 

Well, working backwards you sure have your work cut out for you in the kitchen!

I still don't get it.  When DH wanted to do all raw/whole foods, he didn't place that on the whole family.  I would still cook dinner and he would do his own.  I mean, what we had by comparison wasn't completely opposite - but he stopped eating pasta, processed food, etc.  So.  If I made a stir fry he wouldn't eat it b/c of the sauce, etc.  Anyhow.  I hear you.  Dinner every night is all consuming! 

Can you do any kind of take out?  Is sushi paleo?

 

I really like your upfront approach to Kats age limit problem.  I don't see how anyone could get their knickers in a twist if someone says that, and then lays out the prices for older kids if they need to come.  I would be fine with that on an invitation.

 

Ikea is a like a showroom.  You've been to one?  I can't remember.  Anyway, you just are walking through, and they give you little pencil and a paper and you're only writing things down you want to buy.  You can walk thru the bedroom displays and kitchen displays, etc, and the kids can sit and play on the stuff.  I mean, not jump on beds, but there's so much to look at and couches to try and all that.  It's fun for them as long as you have an eye on them and they aren't being destructive, you know?  Idk.  It's just something that we do.  Then they have toys and stuff you can purchase off the floor, so I"m hoping to find felt food or wooden things to pick up.


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I think I may have been to Ikea years ago when I was a teenager but not since. Do you know how long ago that was? About 27 years! yikes2.gif

I can see how sitting on all the furniture would be fun for the kids. My boys did that the last time I was in a furniture store.

DH isn't trying to get everyone else to eat paleo. He makes separate food for the boys. The problem is that he doesn't take into account what they like. It's hard to explain. Like if he's making something spicy, he'll make theirs separate but he leaves it plain rather than flavoring it at all. Or he makes that nasty kale that neither he or I could stand and then gets mad that the boys don't eat it. We choked it down because we chose to not waste it and because we understand that it's good for us (and I doused mine with balsamic vinegar). Kids aren't going to do that and I'm not going to try to make them. I was traumatized as a child from my dad doing that to me so I will never do that to my kids.

He also puts way too much on their plates and then gets mad if they don't eat it all. I had to look up how much protein a 5 year old needs to show him that Kellen wasn't going to die if he didn't eat his meat at dinner. It's the equivalent of 3 glasses of milk a day, which Kellen easily gets every day, so it's no big deal to me if he only eats his rice or potato or pasta at dinner. I look at it this way. He's growing exponentially. The body and brain need mostly quick and easy energy to grow. That means carbs and sugars. Protein is important, too, but he doesn't need nearly as much.

Tonight is Japanese night per Ethan so we are having sushi. I think sashimi is paleo so dh should be fine. He's going to pick some up from the commissary today. They have people who make it fresh every day and you can call in an order. Ethan likes plain octopus, of all things. That has to be ordered because they don't routinely make it.

Tomorrow is French Friday so I'm going to try French Chicken in a Pot, http://www.meat-n-veggies.com/2011/06/18/french-chicken-in-a-pot/#more-185. We have a butternut squash that needs to be used. (Don't get me started on trying to get dh to buy only seasonal.) The only French recipe that I found for that is a bisque. Not sure I want to try that. Plus, I'm not sure how to make it paleo other than to just leave out the cream. Then it's not really bisque anymore, is it?

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As long as I don't have serious shopping to do, like grocery shopping, half the idea of going to the store is as an activity for my kids! They learned a long time ago to not ask/beg me to buy anything for them so it's just an opportunity to walk around, window shop, play with toys, etc. There's a small toy store that we go to on a regular basis for them to just hang out in a bit. They love to go to IKEA but the closest one to us is up by Quantico. They like to go through the living rooms, kitchens, the apartments that are set up and then we always eat in the restaurant.

 

Baby_Cakes, did you find their cloth/felt food? I've been eyeing that for Ava. I may go up to stay with my sister next weekend and she's about 20 mins from an IKEA so I may go get some then.
 


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Baby_Cakes, did you find their cloth/felt food? I've been eyeing that for Ava. I may go up to stay with my sister next weekend and she's about 20 mins from an IKEA so I may go get some then.
 

 

I did!  I got two - the fruit basket and the veggie basket.  I also picked up some wooden cars and a set of stacking cups.  They had so much it was hard not to buy it all!!  

 

We all had  a really great time.  It was so fun to go.  And it's only 25 min from me up the Turnpike.  I don't know why I've never gone!  And I packed food (just snacks - hummus, pretzels, some veggie sticks) and then got drinks and fries at the cafe.  It was great!  We were there almost 3.5 hours!  The kids were so zonked after that, Finn slept in the car and then I just carried him and put him in bed and he slept 2 hours, and Nora just rested on the couch watching TV.

She has the sniffles and is acting a little tired.  Either a summer cold or -- idk if this is even a symptom, I have to look it up -- one of the kids in her class had coxsackie so she could have been exposed.  I told her please be careful not to share food/drinks with anyone and I've got to keep an extra close eye on her.  Though, like I said, are sniffles a symptom?  I don't think so...

 

Anyway, kids went to bed an hour ago and I've been up enjoying the peace!  Chris is gone for one more whole day and we'll see him Saturday.  Now that Finn is older, it's a lot harder doing this alone.

 

Here are the kids at Ikea:  

 

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My boys do like to look in TRU. Ethan doesn't ask for everything he sees but Kellen's at that age where he does no matter. He asks for everything he sees on TV, too. It's not a big deal, though. He doesn't have a fit when he doesn't get it and he finds something else he wants pretty quickly. When we were at TRU we were looking for a backpack with flames on it for him, which he had bee talking about for days, but then he saw a trash can one and HAD to have it. He said it was too funny! He's such a fun kid. love.gif

Carrie ~ Ethan got it when he was 2.5 and we were driving from CA to here. It wasn't too horrible but it was a little freaky.

My mom is coming today. She wants to celebrate the time we spent together when Dylan was born. I still haven't finished giving Ethan his end of the year test. We're too busy living life to take a stupid test. Grrr!

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Grrr on stupid tests!

 

We go shopping as an activity for the kids too.

 

Yesterday was such a good day! 1ht right now, so i will leave it at that.

 

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Dylan is so clingy! It's really driving me crazy. I feel like he's been nursing non-stop for 2 days.

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Norah too; she's refusing the paci and only wanting to nurse. I know it's likely due to my diminished supply and she wants to get all she can. plus she's a little snotty at the moment, an that might have something to do with it, but geez.

 

We had a great playdate yesterday, then dinner out, and Gabe actually wanted to go shopping with DH, so I made *ahem* encouraged him to let Gabe go with him.

 

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Kellen likes to run errands with DH. I strongly encourage dh to take him. DH complains that Kellen wants to be carried. I don't get why that's such a hardship. All he has to do is carry him to a cart. I do it all the time. Kellen is happy to ride in the cart.

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Gabe only rides in the cart if he has a bribe or Norah is in it too. Wayne said yesterday Gabe wanted to walk, so that's good. If he has a choice, he almost always prefers to ride in "dad-dee car" - so why not?

 

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My turn to ask for votes. I submitted 3 pics of dh wearing Ethan in the mei tai for the Mothering Babywearing contest.

http://www.mothering.com/community/t/1358293/motherings-babywearing-photo-contest/280

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Voted :)

 

 

Ok so fun and random... Someone on my pinterest keeps pinning the most obnoxious mainstream "baby's coming" type lists, and even though I know better, I keep reading them. Anyways, the point is... my two best friends will probably both be pregnant within the next year, and some of my crunchy has interested/rubbed off on them, but not a ton. So I would -love- to put together a basket/gift bag of things to have on hand for post birth. Not so much baby things you'd expect on a registry, but more of the 'first six weeks survival kit' type things... but... not so mainstream. Soo... ideas! What are all the things you wouldn't have thought of, or would have hesitated to splurge for yourself on? So far I'm thinking... (and won't use all of these because it could end up costing a fortune but...)

 

 

Water Bottle

New set of easy-nurse PJs

Cloth pads (maybe...)

coconut oil

some sort of homemade snack

a phone list for health links, LLL, etc.

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PP herbal sitz bath
those cooling or herbal breast compress thingies. I don't know if they work but that's one thing I would have liked to have tried but never splurged on.
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That's all I can think of right now. I'll post more if I think of anything.

How is someone else able to post stuff on your pinterest? I don't use that site so I don't know exactly how it works.

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Thanks :)

 

Sorry, it's not on 'my' pinterest, but it shows up in my feed of new things, similiar to people's FB updates show up in your feed. 


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Love all the ideas! Does she have a kindle? I would have loved a gift card for kindle books. Even $25 can get you a few books.

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Second the idea for a gift card to buy books if she has an e-reader type device.

 

So back to our vax convo, I saw this link posted in the selective/delay vax board on here: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/G/cases&deaths.pdf

 

Big eye-opener for me. If and that's a big IF right now, I give any more shots to DD, I'm going to focus on HepA/HepB since those are the ones that seem to be actually causing VPD deaths at this point. Wish this info was more mainstream.


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The CDC used to have historical data that went back even further than that. A lot of it showed that VPDs actually started to decline before vaccines for them became available or widespread. I can't find that info anymore. I wonder if it was taken down or just hidden really well as a backlash to the growing number of people who don't vax.

The thing to consider with HepA/HepB is how likely it is that the child would contract it. I think it's very unlikely without major risk factors. I made it through life without contracting either of those diseases and without vaccines for them. I'm not aware of anyone in my close circle who has hepatitis, either.

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The thing to consider with HepA/HepB is how likely it is that the child would contract it. I think it's very unlikely without major risk factors. I made it through life without contracting either of those diseases and without vaccines for them. I'm not aware of anyone in my close circle who has hepatitis, either.

That was my original thought process but remember that Ava spends more time in medical environments than your average kid. So that's my only concern there. What's your take on that? (hope that doesn't sound snarky, I'd really like your input!)


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Doesn't sound snarky at al. smile.gif I really don't know. I'd need research each disease again. I can never keep A, B and C straight. One of them is almost strictly a STD, right? The other two are blood-borne diseases? I assume the concern would be with other patients with hepatitis rather than medical workers with it, right? And the fact that she possibly gets blood products?

I vaguely remember there being some concern about hepatitis being contracted in restaurants but I can't remember which one that was.

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Hepatitis A info from WebMD: http://www.webmd.com/hepatitis/hepa-guide/digestive-diseases-hepatitis-a

Hepatitis B info: http://www.webmd.com/hepatitis/hepb-guide/hepatitis-b-topic-overview

Based on that info I probably would not do them.

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Right, Hep A is fecal-oral transmission and Hep B and C are primarily blood-borne transmissions. Off to do more research!
 


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Hmmm, I've learned that I don't know why we vaccinate for those! Or why anyone is dying from either of them. Maybe I'm missing something? Hep A is acute only, not chronic and resolves itself on it's own within a couple of weeks, causing issues max of 6-9 months. Hep B is usually acute but can become chronic in immuno-compromised adults or if babies/small children get exposed it can turn in to chronic. But otherwise it resolves itself too. headscratch.gif
 


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Hmmm, I've learned that I don't know why we vaccinate for those! Or why anyone is dying from either of them. Maybe I'm missing something? Hep A is acute only, not chronic and resolves itself on it's own within a couple of weeks, causing issues max of 6-9 months. Hep B is usually acute but can become chronic in immuno-compromised adults or if babies/small children get exposed it can turn in to chronic. But otherwise it resolves itself too. headscratch.gif
 

 

 

I wouldn't give HepB EVER (except the two times I gave it to J jaw2.gif). I am pretty sure people who are dying from it are drug addicts and incredibly unhealthy anyways. 

 

HepB was originally made FOR drug addicts, prostitutes, etc. and when they (obviously) didn't come get them they started giving them to newborns............nice.

Also - I know the effectiveness starts to wear off pretty quickly (like 5-8 yearsish I think) so by the time said baby/toddler could even get into such a lifestyle it would be worn off eyesroll.gif

 

I have no idea about HepA..........haven't researched it at all. 

 

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