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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2507903/Single-mother-ordered-stop-breastfeeding-judge.html

 

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How horrifying! How can this be done legally? Can she have representation for the child to defy scandalous ruling? Not to mention, can the state really regulate a physical relationship like breastfeeding?

 

I hope something can be done about this.

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Yes, it sounds legal.

For all the "recommendations" about breastfeeding from medical organizations like the AAP and WHO, I don't believe there are any actual laws defining breastfeeding rights. Women nursing in public are protected from public nudity laws, but that seems to be the extent of the legal protection around breastfeeding.
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The judge has no idea the can of worms he has opened. This may be a very enlightening experience for him and hopefully he will utilize the education he is about to receive on breastfeeding.
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this was just posted this afternoon on the local newspaper's site - http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/easton/index.ssf/2013/11/northampton_county_judge_addre.html#incart_river_default


 

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After reading the article, it seems unclear to me whether the judge actually ordered her to stop breastfeeding. It sounds like he ordered her to let the father have the baby for weekends and the mom said she can't pump enough for 2 days and the baby won't take a bottle. These are different issues. I don't know how far apart the parents live from each other, but I would hope they could work something out so that the mom can feed the baby and the father can still spend time with her.



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The idea of having a breastfeeding ten-month-old overnight away from her mother is so totally ridiculous. It's not possible. Surely the father can see the child during the day instead until she is two or so.

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The judge has no idea the can of worms he has opened. This may be a very enlightening experience for him and hopefully he will utilize the education he is about to receive on breastfeeding.

Whose going to give it to this nincumpoop? Who's  responsible for educating an ignoramus is a position of power? Do they send him pamphlets or something? Invite him to the next wic meeting? 

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After reading the article, it seems unclear to me whether the judge actually ordered her to stop breastfeeding. It sounds like he ordered her to let the father have the baby for weekends and the mom said she can't pump enough for 2 days and the baby won't take a bottle. These are different issues. I don't know how far apart the parents live from each other, but I would hope they could work something out so that the mom can feed the baby and the father can still spend time with her.

In a world of normal rational intelligent human beings maybe. I hope you're right.

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You're right, contactmaya.  Sometimes I forget people sometimes do stupid things.




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http://articles.mcall.com/2013-11-15/news/mc-northampton-county-breastfeeding-mother-custody-20131115_1_breast-feeding-custody-dispute-daughter

 

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Scary case. The dad isn't even asking for much, just two nights every two weeks. He could have asked for shared custody, what then? Are dads not allowed shared custody when mum is still breastfeeding? Is that fair? 

 

Both potential rulings could set a dangerous precedent. For both mums and dads...

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The baby is only 10mths old.

Does  the father have to have overnights now? There are other ways to bond with the baby. I dont think its fair to ask a baby to give up whats best for his/her health so  the  father can have 'overnights'. He is not putting the baby's interests first.

 

As a mother to my children, i simply dont understand how people can  think this way. The question shoud be-how can i form a meaningful relationship with my child, in a way that doesnt sacrafice his/her interests to my own. The answer in this case seems to be simple-   a bit of patience.  Wait until the  baby is a little older.

At 10mths old, it doesnt make a huge difference as far as the fathers relationship is concerned, but it makes a big difference when it comes to the breastfeeding relationship.

 

Even spending a few hours with the baby, or part of the day, goes a long way  as far as bonding is concerned.

 

I am so glad there is noone in the life of my children  that is actively jepardizing their interests in the name of 'bonding'

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Father cares more about himself than the child. Do you wonder why a woman would run away when she gets pregnant and never tell the father??


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There doesn't seem to be enough information on the case to have an opinion about this. 

 

How far does the father live? How are his working hours? Is it impossible to have more frequent but shorter visits? Does the mother insist on being present all the time and therefore the whole experience is negative? How involved was the father before the divorce? Is the girl missing him badly? Why is the mum not expressing (saying "it's not an option" doesn't seem very helpful) and getting help with getting baby used to sippy cup? 

 

In his mind, the father might have the child's best interest at heart, do we know that? Statistically, children with involved fathers do better health-wise, academically, have less trouble at school and with authorities. Heavy involvement and bonding with dad is very much at the child's best interest and who are we to say which part of "best interest" outweighs the other? 

 

Or is the father on a revenge trip, fully knowing that there is maybe some issue like low supply, inability to pump, dependency on the breast for sleeping or comfort that would make it very difficult for mother and baby? Is the baby unsettled and missing her dad terribly? 

 

And what are the implications of the ruling in the dad's favour? Can breastfeeding mothers then be forced into shared custody and having to stop completely? 

 

What are the implications ruling in mum's favour? Can a dad NOT ask for weekend stays with his own child, because mum is bf? Until when? One, two, three, four? 

 

I can absolutely not make my mind up about this case, so little info and it seems rather one-sided. 

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In his mind, the father might have the child's best interest at heart, do we know that? Statistically, children with involved fathers do better

Not at 10months. As i said, whatever the circumstances, he can wait.

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