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anyone ever done it? what clubs have you tried?
any advice for someone who is interested?
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I'm sorry - Do you mean taking your children to a nudist club?
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Can't help you there, then. I'm interested in the reasoning behind it, though. And have to admit I'd be a little concerned about participating in something like that if I'd just had an encounter with CPS.
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Can't help you there, then. I'm interested in the reasoning behind it, though. And have to admit I'd be a little concerned about participating in something like that if I'd just had an encounter with CPS.

forgive me, i was seeking information from people who CAN help me.
if you are interested in the "reasoning behind it", i invite you to google 'family values nudist club' or something to that effect.

do tell me about your encounters with CPS.
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>anyone ever done it?

many times but not in the past couple of years due to money/time constraints more than anything.

>what clubs have you tried?

La Pommerie in Quebec, lovely, lovely, place. I would spend the summer there if I could.

Avalon in Paw Paw, West Virginia. Also a very nice place. Now has indoor and outdoor pools.

We used to belong to Sunny Rest in PA when oldest was a baby. We've been to a few other clubs in NE PA and also a couple in the Hamilton, Ontario area.

>any advice for someone who is interested?

Bring a towel

Seriously, depending on the age of your kids they may feel self-conscious about being nude. All the clubs I've ever been too require nudity for everyone but some will grant exceptions to kids. You could always ask what their rules are.

My kids are now 9, 7, and 4. Like I said they haven't been in a couple of years but they said they'd like to go again. They do remember a little.

One thing is that we don't discuss nudism with our extended family (at least not the grandparents). We're not ashamed we just don't feel like explaining.
Ditto for people we don't know well.

So a few years ago the kids come home from vacation and tell the neighbor kid how they went to the club where everyone is naked. Neighbor kid (11 yo)is shocked. "You mean you looked at naked women?" My then 4 yo son replied "I like looking at women."

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I don't think I'd take kids at all.
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I don't think I'd take kids at all.
me either
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I know the OP said she did not want to discuss the reasoning behind nudist gatherings, but I truly would like to understand why people do this. I am not criticizing, I truly do not get it, and it sounds like others here might feel the same way.

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thank you marybeth, for writing back in a HELPFUL manner. i think avalon looks charming as per the website. we're in IN, there are at least six resorts here! too cool...

as for some others, i don't really understand why you responded to this thread. i did not solicit theoretical opinions about taking or not taking kids. start your own thread. furthermore, if it is so important to you to give that opinion, i don't understand why you would merely jump on, say 'i wouldn't do that' with utterly NO REAON WHY.
what i mean is, it sounds like you find yourself in a position to judge me/others who make this choice. well, i'm not biting. if you have actual valid concerns for me as to why you think my kids would be unhappy/unsafe at a family oriented nudist resort, please share. if not, why respond?

max-thank you for being respectful. you can find answers to your questions by looking at diferent websites for nude recreation centers. also, www.aanr.com might help you.
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thank you marybeth, for writing back in a HELPFUL manner. i think avalon looks charming as per the website. we're in IN, there are at least six resorts here! too cool...

as for the last 2 posters, i don't really understand why you responded to this thread. i did not solicit theoretical opinions about taking or not taking kids. furthermore, if it is so important to you to give that opinion, i don't understand why you would merely jump on, say 'i wouldn't do that' with utterly NO REAON WHY.
what i mean is, it sounds like you find yourself in a position to judge me/others who make this choice. well, i'm not biting. if you have actual valid concerns for me as to why you think my kids would be unhappy/unsafe at a family oriented nudist resort, please share. if not, why respond?
Unoppressed MAMA Q, this is a discussion board. You opened up the topic. It sounds to me like you are pretty defensive about this. I wonder why that is? Perhaps you would find what you are looking for on a board for nudists. Also, lots of the mamas here are pretty sensitive right now do to the diaper picture crisis, so I think people are on ultra-protective mode, myself included.
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we cross posted, max.
i didn't start out feeling defensive, but then i got to read dragonfly's ignorant and judgmental posts. i am a victim of child protection services abuse, and i did NOT appreciate the reference. although it does show me that dragonfly knows little about either CPS OR nude recreation.
anyhoo, i appreciate the private and respectful responses.
discussion is one thing, judgmental, spiritually cloistered junk is another. if others want to PM me, i now understand why! please do so, maybe we can host a get together at a family-oriented club someday!
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I wasn't trying to be disrespectful. I just wonder about the choice for a number of reasons. First, it does seem odd to me to take children to a place where many other unknown people are nude. I don't have any problem with nudism. We're nude quite frequently around here. But, then, I know that there aren't any child molestors in my house, eyeing my son.

Second, if CPS has taken you to court, then doing something that would certainly be inclined to turn their heads in your direction seems a little strange to me. I don't think that you should live in fear of CPS, but this would be one potentially inflammatory thing I, personally, wouldn't have a problem sacrificing... Apparently it's different for you and I'm curious as to why that is.

As for your question: You might have better luck in Finding Your Tribe.
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I've done it (without children)
But one fat woman farted in my face, I was pretty grossed out by that, I never went back. Nothing worse than a fart from someone without pants on.

It wasn't just a "poof" it was a full out FART, ok!

I do not want my kids around that nasty stuff.


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I didn't think Dragonfly's comments were judgmental at all, Unoppressed Mama. I thought she was showing concern for your experiences with CPS, and how seeking out a nudist resort right now--at this delicate moment--might put you back in jeopardy, if you've had problems with CPS in the past.

I read her question as a caring, thoughtful approach to your inquiry, one that took into consideration your sig line and your recent trauma with CPS.

I realize you are very sensitive about the issue right now, so I'm surprised that you'd find judgment where, in fact, there was simply a question from her that seemed to be designed to help you.

I hope all is going well in terms of CPS, and that your family is healing.
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I've done it (without children)
But one fat woman farted in my face, I was pretty grossed out by that, I never went back. Nothing worse than a fart from someone without pants on.

It wasn't just a "poof" it was a full out FART, ok!

I do not want my kids around that nasty stuff.


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Well, I never thought about that angle on being at a nudist resort! : I just read an interesting article on nudism in a local weekly newspaper, and DH and I were discussing the issue.

Pants do serve as fart filters, now don't they. Oh, my. Don't eat beans before going to a nudist resort.
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I don't know where you are, but there is a place in Maryland, a bit north and east of dc, a bit south and east of baltimore.

I'll try and google for it (never been, but heard it is family friendly).

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if it is so important to you to give that opinion, i don't understand why you would merely jump on, say 'i wouldn't do that' with utterly NO REAON WHY.
I wouldn't take my kids some place where everyone was nude because they are modest. We didn't teach them to be modest and never made a big deal out of nudity, but it just naturally developed in them as they got older. Having watched this in my kids, I would not do anything to change what I see as a natural desire to keep their private parts private. I think that many conversations I have had with my kids to try to protect them from perverts would have been more difficult if I went against their natural inclination to be modest as they got older -- not because I believe modesty is super important, but because I believe that teaching my children to trust their own gut is VERY important. Nude recreation would not be an appropriate choice for my kids.

If CPS were a part of my life, I would be walking on egg shells. I would not do ANYTHING that would made someone bat an eye. I believe that my child's best interest is to be with me, and risking that for a vacation would be foolish to me.
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maybe having been exploited and hung out to dry by CPS has made me rather defensive in general.
nonetheless, i'm totally comfortable with the decision to check it out. everyone is different, but part of my process in healing from CPS intrusion is by refusing to allow them to make decisions about my life (i did not lose my babies and have been out of the system for some time).
the only way CPS would know i took my toddlers to a nudist camp is if someone TOLD THEM! and even i don't think big brother has CPS agents waiting to 'bust' nude families at the club. they're too busy punking on people in my city; i think my kids are likely safer at a nudist club than at home!

all defensiveness aside, *I* am not seeking people's opinions on whether it's a good idea for MY kids to go (i know they will have a blast). that said, someone pointed out that this IS a discussion board, so i'll just shush and quit trying to control the flow.

but don't waste your keystrokes on me, 'cuz i'm not needing to be talked out of anything. peace.
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I can't offer suggestions, just support. I think it is great that you are seeking out family-friendly places. I have great respect for people who are comfortable with their bodies and able to do that (hence my opening the thread), and I think it can be really healthy for kids. I am way too uncomfortable with my own self to do that.

In many parts of Europe, kids/families are nude on the beach all the time. And they seem to be okay, probably healthier about their bodies than most Americans.

And a fart is a fart, no biggie. But why was her behind in someone's face? I think there is some sort of decorum around nudism, and that can't be part of it.

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And a fart is a fart, no biggie. But why was her behind in someone's face? I think there is some sort of decorum around nudism, and that can't be part of it.

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Yeah, that makes me think it wasn't so much a family friendly place.

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You could also try some hot springs resorts that are family friendly. I know Harbin Hot Springs here in cali is awesome but it is limited on the activities for lil kids, though there are some. But a search along that vein may bring more options.
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oooooh, hot springs.
sorry, dreaming of a vacation while having coffee.

I just wanted to say that I'm glad to read your babes were not taken from you.

Have a nice vacation.
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one fat woman farted in my face
I assume because she was fat, it was *SO* much worse?

How do you feel about Jews farting? What about black people?

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I assume because she was fat, it was *SO* much worse?

How do you feel about Jews farting? What about black people?
They stink too, but not as bad as fat people.

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)



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So let me get this straight, you are asking if anyone know of any "Family-Friendly" Strip Clubs?
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No, she's asking if anyone knows of any family friendly nudist colonies.
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what clubs have you tried?
okay, the word "clubs" just threw me off.

but all the same.
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okay, the word "clubs" just threw me off.

but all the same.
Interesting that you would be disappointed in someone's natural parenting choice.

I mentioned in another thread a while ago that we are a naked family. I see nothing wrong with nudity. The ONLY reason for clothes is to keep us warm and occasionally safe (say, while running through sticker bushes), otherwise it is man's law, based on "God's" law, that dictates that we should wear clothing. There is nothing inherantly wrong with nudity.

Back to the OP, I've never been to one, though I would go. Dh and I have discussed it. I'd be afraid if I were in the middle of CPS dealings, but if you are no longer in the system and they're content to leave you alone, I say go for it and have a great time!
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