|View Poll Results: Disney influence: Okay or Not Okay??|
|No way, no how! We despise Disney! There are absolutely no visions of Disney dancing around in my child's head nor home!||54||15.88%|
|We don't have any videos but the occasional Disney is OK as long as it doesn't have any influence on my child.||105||30.88%|
|I allow Disney in my home, and my child is influenced, but I personally think all children would be better-off without Disney.||75||22.06%|
|We have plenty of Disney videos and/or items and my child loves Disney. I see no harm in it, I don't think it's a big deal.||100||29.41%|
|We strive to have every Disney video ever created!! My child is a Disney fanatic!! Disney is good for the child!!||6||1.76%|
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Now that you're a parent, what are your views on Disney? Do you let your child watch them? Why or why not? If not, how do you keep it away? What advantages and/or disadvantages do you see in letting your child be influenced by Disney?
As Maya Angelou would say "When You knew better, You did better"
i like the older "classics" the best.
i wish i had a little girl to watch some of the "princess" ones with, my boys will watch with me, but they don't enjoy them in the same way a girl does.
some of their movies aren't so good. i thought some were boring.
most i LOVE
i also love movies with talking animals.
Plus, my in-laws are Disney freaks. They have annual passes, and routinely exchange gifts of a Disney nature. Even if I wanted to limit Disney stuff, I would lose that battle. Better for me to pick a more important issue to stand my ground on.
With a daughter, I do think it is important to counterbalance the images they see of girls sacrificing everything to win a man, but the movies are more fun than anything else.
The movies themselves aren't all bad. I admit I enjoyed the Toy Story movies. 2 yo ds likes Woody a whole lot. He got a Woody doll for Christmas from his grandma. I do object to the way some of the disney movies have taken classic children's literature and "cartoonized" it. Winnie-the-Pooh is the classic example. The books are so sweet and funny, but the movies are trash. Pure trash.
Kids don't need the commercialism but it is up to parents to control the message.
What bothers me about Disney is the salary of Michael Eisner. Of course, CEO compensation is the thing that gives me a giant bug up my behind anyway (I have phd in HR so I've studied this stuff and they are way too greedy at the expense of their workers!!!!) Now that Disney is struggling financially according to Eisner, I have no doubt they will start laying off workers while he gets a raise or some other stock options....
SIGH...I still love Winnie the Pooh....
I despise how girls are portrayed on disney movies. Dress sexy, helpless in need of a hero. It's a regular theme that I find disturbing and certainly not what I want to pass to my daughter.
Then there are things like Pooh Bear, or dumbo... which seemed pretty innocent to me. I lost alot of respect for Disney when I went to get Malia's pictures done and saw two young girls (5-7) getting their pictures taken together. They were wearing close to nothing, and guess whose face was smack dab in the middle of their teeny tiny shirts? Pooh and Tigger! These were little "tube tops" and mini skirts... with disney supporting this. It was just pathetic.
So I have come to view Disney in a poor light, and I don't see myself cuddling up on the sofa with my DD to watch them anytime soon.
I'm Andrea - I have three boys - 12 year old twins & an 11 year old
We also go to WDW every other year. Can't wait to take DD in December!
When dd showed an interest in Disney around age 2.5yrs (after a visit to Disneyland), I started buying the Disney videos and cd's. I went overboard and went on a two-yearlong buying frenzy of Disney movies. Dd now has most of the movies and several of the music cd's (she LOVES to sing to them and I got a little too enamored by the beautiful singing).
I have always had a problem with how the female is portrayed in most of the movies (ie: Snow White) and often talked w/dd about the problem. The women/girls seem to be able to wipe away their worries with a song (and man!) and that is what mainly bothered me I guess.
We never really bought the clothes because they tend to be cheaply made but not cheaply sold, and I just think a big patch of a Disney character on something otherwise cute cheapens the appearance too. So it's the video-influence that bothers me the most. Dd is still young enough (5yrs) that she doesn't protest if Disney isn't around or seen as much so I have lately limited it a lot and I really do see an improvement. She's not as hooked and she doesn't have to watch it like she used to. She's more interested in nature, and her own creativity hasn't been limited to Disney characters. It's a relief and I'm beginning to see how much Disney really does influence us. Now if I could only get rid of most of these movies without her noticing!
I just don't see Disney as portraying the values I want my kids to have. Then again, there aren't a lot of movies or tv shows that do.
DS: 18 DD: 15 DD: 8 11/10 4/11
DD: 3 8/11
I loved the old classics and have bought them, I think they have been viewed once each :
There is so much in this world that influences children and I don't think watching a few disney movies is going to be detremental.
I loved the old classics and have bought them, I think they have been viewed once each :
There is so much in this world that influences children and I don't think watching a few diney movies is going to be detemental.
|Originally posted by Celestial
In college I had a friend who did her dissertation on dialect use in Disney films, and their contribution to racism and stereotyping. It was quite eye opening, and pretty obvious when you watch the movies.
The sexism bothers me, the commercialism bothers me, and the violence bothers me.
On the other hand...............we DO have the Disney channel in our cable package, and dd is allowed to watch Bear in the big blue house, Roley Poley Olie, and Winnie the Pooh. No Little Mermaid - too scarey for little ones. I just really disagree with the violence. Why is it necessary for kids???????
I will never be a big consumer of Disney garb, but I would like to go there with dd some day. Everything in moderation I think. And I am not saying that I would ban all Disney movies, just the ones I think are inappropriate.
just my .02
A note on strong female roles . . . have any of you all seen Mulan? VERY strong herione. It is one my dh and my favarite movies of all times. Great story based on an old Chinese (sorry about the spelling, never was really good at it) tale. Great music too.
DH knows my feelings about Disney, & while it confuses him to an extent, he knows better than to cross me. :LOL Perhaps if they left more of their stories "as is" I wouldn't have such a problem.
Though I must admit the rampant commercialism bugs me too. Disney this, Disney that...I support it a little because I refuse to give up Winnie the Pooh (which wasn't always owned by those *****!). But the endless array of toys for each new film really irks me.
We'll see how it plays out with the rest of the family. Disney doesn't bug me enough to violate my "to each his own" bit, so if MIL sends us Disney videos (which I imagine she will, I've seen the collection she bought for BIL's daughter), we'll probably just pass them on to my cousin Margaret.
Sabra: Mama to Bobbie (3/02), Linda (1/04), Esther (10/05), Marie (11/10), Douglas (11/12), & Psalm (09/14; in Heaven)
The truest answer to violence is love. The truest answer to death is life. The only prevention for violence is for the heart to have no violence within it. We cannot prevent evil through any system devised by mankind. But we can grapple with evil and defeat it, but only with love—real love.
"Wasn't that a fun ride? Isn't that curious how you have to walk through the store after the ride? They sure are trying to get us to buy their stuff." We hope to create a media-literate kid who can think about these things himself instead of being sheilded from them.
Recently some folks with older children passed on a bunch of audiotapes, I put in Disney's version of pinnochio and was completely annoyed with how they took an excellent story and dumbed it down. They have done the same with Pooh- trying to make the books "accessible" to young children, but loosing the beautiful prose that makes them so wonderful. There are so many excellent books out there, why in the world should my son waste his time on watered down versions of good stories.
Kids are open to everything, and I think much of their aesthetic sense is developed so young in life, I try to provide Eli with beautiful images, music, and stories, and opportunities to create so that his senses are enriched, not diminished. I can't help but feel that Disney diminishes.
Anyway, we will never ban all of Disney and I love Disneyland so we will definately go someday, but we won't just accept everything they give us either. We will screen it just like everything else.
I didn't argue with her because I was still in the swing of having the baby blues...but if I would have known how difficult it was going to be to get rid of those friggin books I would have just hung up on her!
If I had wanted out of the Disney-indoctrination shackles, I needed to phone Grolier and inform them in person that I wanted out of their book club. Their phone number was next to impossible to get, I had to phone the operater and tell her how difficult it was for me to get in touch with the company....
anyways to make an already long story shorter, as peggy pointed out, when I knew better I did better. That is an example of how corporate a hospital birth can be, as Grolier is a part of a large network of companies that are "informed" if you have your child in a hospital!
I had problems with Disney before, but that put the icing on the cake for me. I can't stand the way the market is saturated with Disney characters, we can't escape.
Everything in moderation, sure. And I'm a tolerant, reasonable person. But I HATE Disney!
The incident in question happened almost four years ago. I'm generally an assertive person, especially when it comes to telephone solictors (although I'm never impolite with them as they are people trying to make a living just like the rest of us). But I do remember it, because the woman tried to insinuate that there was something wrong with me because I didn't want a collection of Disney books for my one-week-old. I'm not bitter about it, and I am wiser for the experience. Grolier was not the only company that was harrassing me after we got home from the hospital. Should I ever have another child, I would definately make sure that the hospital didn't put my name on "the list." But then again, I would probably have a home birth anyways.
I must say, the only magical thing about Disney is the fact that they can weasel their way into even the most barricaded home!
On Disney, we have them all, and edit them all. There are many scenes fome Disney that are simply not appropriate for young children.
It would be hard to totally boycott Disney, but I thnk it promotes endless consumerism and supports child labor. Disneyland is miserable and expensive and is the Crappiest Place On Earth. That said, I doubt I will avoid it totally, just as I will be unable to shield ds from many things I don't like. So I will strive to educate and monitor him.