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#31 of 59 Old 06-24-2006, 01:07 AM
 
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Thanks for posting this. I'm going to have to make dh read it. He thinks i'm being dumb when I say I refuse to take the kids to his parents pool by myself. I'm 5 feet 2 inches. When I stand in the middle the water touches my chin, at it's shallowest (besides the stairs) it hits me mid-chest. I can not move fast enough to get to a child if something happens. Therefore we do not swim without other adults or teenagers around to help watch. And mil just lets the two older ones (3 and almost 5) put arm floaties on and sits in a chair by the pool. Not ok in my book!

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As others have said, thanks for posting.

My little sister almost drowned at 3 in our cousin's pool. She had been wearing a lifejacket sitting on the pool steps, but in true little kid fashion, she took it off (one knot and two buckles) to see if she could swim. Of course she couldn't. As far as I know she never made a sound. I was in the deep end of the pool and the first time I realized something was wrong was when my uncle was jumping fully clothed into the pool. My mom had to perform CPR on her and she spent overnight in the hospital.

Fortunately she is an alive, if not slightly obnoxious, sister today.
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My cousin drowned in the toilet when he was 2.
For some reason this has been a huge fear of mine ever since my first child was born. I am a total freak about keeping the bathroom door closed at all times for this very reason.
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And mil just lets the two older ones (3 and almost 5) put arm floaties on and sits in a chair by the pool. Not ok in my book!
Those things are sooo dangerous! It is too easy for a child to raise his arms up, the floaties stay up but the child's arms slide right out and the child goes down. I'm glad to hear you're not OK with them. Maybe you could get some US Coast Guard approved life jackets for them to wear when they're with her. The ones I have have many buckles that are stiff and really difficult for my strong 5yo to remove.
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I live in Fla and knowing how often my kids are around water I chose to be proactive about the drowning issue. My children are currently enrolled in the ISR lessons. I debated on whether to do the lessons for over a year because of the behavioral type approach to the teaching and that kids do cry at the beginning lessons quite often. I have to say that having the attachment parenting lifestyle has probably affected how my toddler is taking to the lessons. He has quickly bonded to his instructor and within a few lessons is now talking calmly during the lessons. The baby is a little less pleased about the lessons, however it is overwhelming to think that if she got into water somehow that I would find her floating and crying instead of at the bottom and silent. One of the significant things that is taught is to the parents is how to supervise children around water safely, such as no phone, no chatting at the side, etc.

My friends little brother was 2 yo and died at a picnic/party poolside where tons of people were all around. She was blamed (as a young teen) for not watching him closely enough. He rode his tricycle into the pool. It is devastating to the people involved.
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Thank you so much for this thread. It really made me reflect on what happened to me today.

Today I was at the pool at our apartment complex. When we arrived there were several mother with young children and a couple of dads in the pool. I jumped, turned around, and was face to face with a child who was under the water, struggling to get to the surface. She couldn't have been more than four or five. Out of reflex I just grabbed her and pulled her to the surface. She was very startled and started to cry. I looked around and could not find her parents. I started walking around the pool with her, and poor girl, she was terrifed. I finally found her mom, and there was no thank you, nothing evevn after I told her what happened. The mom kind of gave me a dirty look and went back to her business. I was so startled at how easily that could happen, even with tons of adults around. I was so sad for that little girl. It was really a wake-up call.

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What a great reminder post. I've been to the pool twice with my sister & her kids. Each time one of her kids had to be pulled out of the pool b/c they were face down. The first time her oldest was face down-- we have no idea how long he was face down. Since then I've had my son and I will NOT leave his side, even in the 1 foot deep baby pool. Sadly, my sister hasn't learned her lesson and this year her daughter ended up falling in and was face down. I had to point it out to my sister who was two feet away and didn't even notice. And this was just in the baby pool!
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/paren....ap/index.html

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For some reason this has been a huge fear of mine ever since my first child was born. I am a total freak about keeping the bathroom door closed at all times for
OMG, me too!!!

You can never be too careful with children around water!! Thanks for this thread!

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Wow, i hadn't realized so many people had experiences with near drowning.
Personally, my experience was...well, i don't know if you can say "positive", but clearly, it turned out okay, since it isn't my ghost typing this!
I jumped in our pool when i was about 4. My mom was inside, the only one home. I don't really know how long it was before she came out (hysterical of course) and found me, but I did not sink to the bottom and wait there...i learned to swim!! I was happily treading water and swimming around when she came out and found me. I have been able to swim ever since, apparently. I don't really remember it, i was too young. In my mind, i have just always known how to swim..i don't ever remember not being able to swim, i don't remember learning how to swim...i just remember swimming. I love to swim, Pisces that i am.

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Thank you again for the reminder.

Everytime this thread comes around I mention these 2 stories.

My cousin drowned in the toilet when he was 2. And my own dd went into the pool and could have drowned, with dh and I standing right there. She was face down and didn't make one sound.

She was 2, I was holding her baby sister and dh and I were standing next to the pool talking for a minute before we took the kids in. 2 year old was next to me and then suddenly I realized she wasn't standing next to me anymore and I looked around and saw her floating face down in the pool. Dh jumped in with all his clothing and shoes on and grabbed her out, she was fine. I will never forget that day. She was so quiet, an extra minute or two and she would have been gone. All these adults around and it still happened.
i have a story like that from when i was about 2 also.... my mom turned around to do something with my lil sis (we're both fall babies, so i would have been around 2.5 or so and my sis 6 months), and when she turned back around, i had taken my floaties off and was on the bottom of the pool, just staring up waiting i guess......

**note- i wasnt in the pool when she turned around- i got the floaties off and into the water so quickly and quietly she didnt hear me**

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being a former lifeguard i can't thank the original poster enough. Swim with your kids. arm floaties and life jackets give a false sense of security, along with other issue with arm floaties. that said if you are going to use them make sure it is coast guard approved for what you are using it for.

i have to say i have had more "saves" in the baby pool, than the regular pool. if you don't want to swim, don't take your kids swimming.
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I know two 5 yo who were in the shallow end but wandered towards the deep end and when they hit the start of the slope they went under, no noise, no scream, no splash, they just slid and were under. Luckily in both situations they were pulled out. In one of the situations I was standing there with by back to it (watching my dd, her mom was at the side of the pool) and didn't even realize anything was going on until I turned around and saw my friend (who was there without her kids) in the pool with all of her clothes on.

And an 8yo friend of ds' was almost pulled under by a 4 yo. They both could swim, the 4 yo thought the 8 yo was having problems for some reason and started pulling on him, accidently pulling him under. Luckily an adult ran over and was able to pull them apart.
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We've never used floaties. I think they give parents and kids a false sense of security. Our kids went under on purpose even at 1--they would sit on the side and then pop off into the pool (we were always right there to guide them to the surface). They loved it. Both of our older kids could swim under water and doggy paddle 20 feet at age 4. They could tread water for 15 seconds, float etc. We still had one adult per child right there, but my point is that without floaties, they learn to swim sooner and are therefore safer.
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Thanks everyone for posting your knowledge & encounters with almost-drowning (& sadly, actual drowning in some cases). I am thinking of it every day.

I must admit, I did kind of have this preconceived notion that children drowning in pools meant the parents were off having cocktails on the other side of the yard, or something - because I had pictured that flailing and kicking & yelling would be going on.

I think now, I don't want anyone else taking my son swimming, or for him to be at a pool without me, for many years to come.

I feel like in the general public, this is not stressed well enough - you do hear the general "supervise your children", but not "don't take your eyes off of them for more than 5 seconds"
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I agree. I thought I was careful before, but this really made me think. My nephew is nearly two and just gets into everything. At one recent family party, the mom had left (she usually does) and left my bil to watch all four of his kids at a busy family party. At one point he couldn't find said nephew, started to look, and found him climbing up to the above ground pool. This also reminded me to continue this kind of surveillance until well past the age two or three, when you think they're more likely to just fall in by accident.
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Bumping because this is important!

He who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe is as good as dead; his eyes are closed.  ~Albert Einstein
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Thank you for posting this and bumping it!
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What do you all do about summer camps? My dd wants to go for summer camp (they do have swim days about 2 a week) she is 7 y/o, and not a swimmer-wwyd? Thanks.
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What do you all do about summer camps? My dd wants to go for summer camp (they do have swim days about 2 a week) she is 7 y/o, and not a swimmer-wwyd? Thanks.

Can you give her some crash courses in swimming? In Phoenix, there are lots of private swimming lessons that you can do at your home or the teacher's home if you don't have a pool. I don't know if your area has those available.

I am not trying to sound judgemental or at all rude, but, may I ask why she can't swim yet? Do you live in an area where there aren't many pools?
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Can you give her some crash courses in swimming? In Phoenix, there are lots of private swimming lessons that you can do at your home or the teacher's home if you don't have a pool. I don't know if your area has those available.

I am not trying to sound judgemental or at all rude, but, may I ask why she can't swim yet? Do you live in an area where there aren't many pools?
Your question is so valid, not rude at all. The problem is with me I suppose, I can't swim so I have avoided the water myself: . I guess I'm only perpetuating the problem with dd. It is so embrassing to be my age and not able to swim.
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Can you take a class together? My dad could keep himself afloat but not much more and my little brother was very uncomfortable in the water. When little bro was maybe 10 my parents decided we would all take a series of private lessons. So my dad became more competent, little bro learned to keep himself afloat/dogpaddle and I got to learn advanced strokes, dives, etc. We each had an instructor-- I'm sure it was kind of $$ but it was a great family experience. We still talk about it.
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nice to see these threads bumped again. i've tried to bump or repost them every year - i am glad someone remembered!
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Good to see these threads! I have had both of my older dd's in swim lessons this past school year, and will have them in lessons this summer. I'm hoping they will be swimming by the end of the summer. They all love the water, but it is so stressful for me to bring them to the pool. While I will insist on very close, personal supervision even when they start swimming, I will be feeling a little less panicked about it. As it is, They are under CONSTANT, armsreach, within sight supervision of me. I don't count on any lifeguard to keep my babies safe.

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I know two 5 yo who were in the shallow end but wandered towards the deep end and when they hit the start of the slope they went under, no noise, no scream, no splash, they just slid and were under. Luckily in both situations they were pulled out. In one of the situations I was standing there with by back to it (watching my dd, her mom was at the side of the pool) and didn't even realize anything was going on until I turned around and saw my friend (who was there without her kids) in the pool with all of her clothes on.
This happened to me when I was 8. The edge was more abrupt than I expected. Fortunately my cousin was an ace swimmer and he jumped in and got me.
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bumping this up,what a great post.I am going to get dh to read it,I know sometimes i come off as paranoid with all my 'worries' drowning in the loo being one of them(my kiddies,not me!)
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Bumping again because the information in the OP is important.

He who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe is as good as dead; his eyes are closed.  ~Albert Einstein
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a friend of ours was at a cottage with her family, her 2 year old nephew wandered away from the cottage down to the lake, by the time they realized he was missing he was already at the bottom of the lake. He died.

It is so sad and preventable, i am so paranoid around pools. Which is why i don't want one.
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