I, personally, don't think I’m defensive on this thread. I agree that there are very few people going around saying they are "anti-stroller" or that using a stroller is against being "AP". In fact, I have only heard of this idea on these "mainstream vs. AP" threads, which is why I said that I don't take the issue seriously.
On another thread similar to this one I said that I am only "AP" because it's the label I found that best fit my existing parenting style. I guess that is why I don't get upset that I may do something that is or isn't "AP" -- I don't do things *because* they are "AP" -- I was "AP" before I had even heard of the term.
I'm responding because some things that I said were somewhat misunderstood and I feel like I want to clarify what I meant...
Originally Posted by heartmama
I just don't like it when people get into conversations like this and start....commiserating?...to each other in some way, for "not" feeling strongly about an issue. "Oh what's the big deal, it's an object, why do people get so worked up over it" etc. It puts a kind of stigma on people who do feel passionately and marginalizes them in the conversation, and I don't like it. It's not silly to feel passionately about an attachment issue.
Sure, if someone comes in here and says "Parents who use strollers are bad people and don't love their kids", go ahead and get pissed, I understand not wanting to hear that kind of judgement. But that wasn't what was was said.
I feel very strongly about issues that have to do with stroller use. But, like Farmer Mama said,
Originally Posted by farmer mama
I am not taking a stand against strollers, but taking a stand for holding my children. It is not a question of not having a use for a stroller, it is choosing not to use one.
By the way FM, could you talk a little about getting around any stroller issues? Do you need to carry things to and from your home? I'm just wondering how you do that with children in tow. That would be my biggest issue - getting food and recycling in and out of the house with a toddler.
I hope you don't feel like I've put any stigma on you or that I've marginalized your passion. Seriously, when I said "it's just an object" I didn't mean that I don't totally respect the lifestyle of someone that doesn’t use a stroller -- I meant that the *lifestyle* is the impressive thing, yk?
Another issue that goes along with stroller use that I *do* feel passionately about is the use of the car. I've often been surprised that excessive car use isn't addressed more here at MDC. Because I've lived without a personal car for over 5 years now I know that the issue can become *either* the stroller or the car. When I say that it's the lifestyle over the object this is what I had in mind. It is possible to be dedicated to attachment, health and safety and have those choices necessitate a stroller, more so than if weren't so concerned about those things.
The last issue *for me* that I think about with stroller use is consumerism. It is a big problem that we feel like we "need" so many things for our children. I would love to see more discussion on parents taking a stand against all the crap we are told we "need" to go with our children.
Now, I know the whole disclaimer thing has been talked about but I do feel a nagging need to make one. I'm trying to find a balance between expressing my passions and not offending people so I did just want to say that I *know* there are many more issues with this - especially physical limitations to baby wearing and specific lifestyle issues.