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Old 04-20-2004, 11:01 AM - Thread Starter
 
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OK, tell me if I'm overreacting.

We have a lot of birds and other wildlife around us since we have a lot of wooded areas around our house. Wrens always build nests in strange places, like right now there is a nest in my dd's swing on the front porch. I think it's cool and the girls love watching the mama bird and peeking in at the eggs. They aren't bothered at all that their swing has been temporarily taken over.

Well, this past weekend dh and the girls go up in the tree house and discover a wren nest in there. DDs thought it was cool as did I. Later that day dh asked dd #1 if she had taken the bird's nest down yet. I told him that we couldn't take it down and he looked at me like I had two heads and asked why. I said that the eggs were probably already in there. His reply was, "So??" I was SO angry/upset. I said, "We are NOT killing those baby birds" and walked away. I couldn't even look at him for several hours. Maybe it's because I'm a mom but all I could envision was that poor mama bird watching her nest and eggs being torn down. And for no good reason!

He didn't, BTW, take the nest down.

I was surprised at how pissed off I was, but it's like dh doesn't have a clue. He KNOWS how much I love animals and knows how much the girls do too. Sometimes I really think men are from some underdeveloped planet in another solar system.
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Old 04-20-2004, 11:48 AM
 
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I understand. I haven't let my DH dislodge the pigeons from our soffets because whenever he wants to do it, it is breeding season. I am now somewhat regretting my position however, as they are doing serious damage and pooping everwhere.

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I don't think you're over reacting........I'd have felt the same way.
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What a lesson to teach your daughter--good or bad. I really believe you're in the right on this one.
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Well, I truly don't even like to kill bugs, so baby bird eggs would be out of the question.


Both my kids will ask me to "smoosh" bugs when we are outside, and I refuse. I will move it away from them, but I am not going to kill it. I try to tell DS#1 "you don't just go around killing living things 'cause you want to." Seems like a good lesson.
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You're not over-reacting. 2 years ago, when we took the shutters off of our house, we discovered nests in the shutters. The baby birds fell out and I started crying... dh held me while I cried, then put the nest in a nearby tree and carefully put the baby birds back in. He checked on them every day and when one of them died, buried it because he thought it would be easier for me to deal with. I was so upset about those birds... maybe your dh just doesn't realize the importance or the significance of the situation. It seems so trivial in the scope of LIFE. But it's probably not a man thing...
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Thanks for the validation, ladies. Dh wasn't ever allowed to have pets growing up. He didn't own a dog until we got engaged. He rode a horse for the first time last month. He was never taught to love or respect animals, so I can't totally blame him. Can you tell I'm calmer today?
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Hi Fianna,

Thanks for keeping your husband's baby birdie-killing fantasies in check! : )

I just thought I'd add, as a supervisor at a wildlife rehabilitation hospital, that it is illegal to tamper with a nest and its contents once the eggs have been laid. It's ok to move the nest for safety, as another poster did, but it's not legal to remove the eggs, nestings or nest.

Also, it is an old wives' tale that birds will not accept their babies once they have been handled by humans. They have no sense of smell and cannot tell that they've been touched. This goes for most mammals as well. If you find a baby bird on the ground, do your best to find the nest and put it back in. If you cannot find it, keep it in on a soft material like tissues in a margerine container, etc. on a towel on a heating pad and call your local wildlife rescue or shelter. Don't try to feed it or give it water.

Thanks for caring!
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It is legal to move the nest or remove it before the parent birds have laid the eggs. They will make another nest elsewhere. This is far more preferable to the possibility of the nest being destroyed once the eggs are in it (or worse, the nestlings!) So next season, if you don't wish the pigeons to nest there you can destroy their nests (if you want to) before they are finished and hopefully they'll finder another place to make the nest.

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Emily, thanks for you info! You have one of my dream jobs!!

The eggs in the baby swing on the front porch hatched yesterday! Those babies are so ugly and so cute.:LOL :LOL The mama bird seems to have overcome her fear of us and now flies in and out with a beak full of bugs while we sit in our rocking chairs less than two feet away.
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Fianna - I'm so jealous! Of course I get to feed and hold the babies (baby opossums and squirrels are so cute, and let's not get into the ducklings!) but it's not the same as watching their lives unfold under your noses.

I work in special ed. But I started volunteering a year and a half ago at the hospital and got promoted to supervisor right before I started a wildlife rehab internship last summer. So once I have a bit more time under my belt, and take some more classes, I could get a paying job doing it. I work half time as a teacher and during the baby season many rehabs have part-time jobs open for med techs.

I love it thought, and even though I got almost no sleep last summer while I was working and doing the internship, I couldn't wait to go back in each day. I've learned so much about animals and habitats and the environment. I can't believe that I used to bring old bread to feed the ducks. (I know lots of parents like to bring their kids to do that but it is really unhealthy for the ducks. It's much better to bring cracked corn and romaine lettuce.)

My husband once shot a bird by mistake as a teenager and he was so upset. But I'm sure your husband's attitude is because of how you described his childhood with respect to nature. Maybe this chance to watch these sweet little birds grow up will change his mind.

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