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blairinargentina 01-02-2007 01:15 PM

has anyone noticed a change in sleep patters with their babes once they get about 4 months old? i have a friend whose baby has gone from sleeping all night back to the 1-3 hr stretches again. isa seems to be doing the same thing too (but we are soooooo hoping its just this sickness, and not a pattern).

i read something in the sears book that made me wonder. it said, "most babies sleep well from 1-4 months, then the honeymoon in over". huh?

we have ruled out all the other night waking (illness) reasons, so what gives? anyone else going through this?

peilover010202 01-02-2007 02:18 PM

Yes, I've experienced this with both my boys. I thought it had something to do with my going back to work (reverse cycling) - maybe not though? Ds1 was 12mos old before he sleep through the night again (but he had fairly consistently slept 5 or more hours straight from 2-4 mos old). We didn't start cosleeping with ds1 until he was about 18 mos old, so I lost a LOT of sleep back then. Now, it just a quick feeding and back to sleep or a quick rollover to the other side and back to sleep.

veganf 01-02-2007 03:21 PM

Nate wakes to eat around 1:30am (but it could just be my husband coming to bed and waking him). And he wakes up and plays with his hands around 4:30 and then goes back to sleep. Don't know if that counts or not. He's 5 months old as of yesterday.

2 in August 01-02-2007 06:18 PM

Interesting, Ian will be 5mo in 2 days and he just started sleeping through the night. Some nights are still rough (like last night), but he's been sleeping from about 1am to 7am for the past week or so.

mamamilkers 01-02-2007 06:44 PM

Sleep patterns, what are those?

I think I am taking this "let your babe sleep when she wants to" thing a little too literally. She is just still totally and completely all over the map. There isn't one bit of patter to her habits what-so-ever! Grrrrr.

taradt 01-03-2007 01:00 AM

We have had 2 waking every hour nights and I am hoping it is a growth spurt or something and not the new norm

tara

SummerTwilight 01-03-2007 11:07 AM

MOHAHAHAHA! Aria didn't start sleeping well until 4 months! As of Dec 30 (4 nights now) she has slept from 9pm, waking around 12 or 1 and then sleeping to 5 then sleeping to 7:30 or 8! I am a new woman!!!

veganf 01-03-2007 11:24 AM

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MOHAHAHAHA! Aria didn't start sleeping well until 4 months! As of Dec 30 (4 nights now) she has slept from 9pm, waking around 12 or 1 and then sleeping to 5 then sleeping to 7:30 or 8! I am a new woman!!!
Oh that's GREAT news!!!! So happy for you!

Ursula Rose 01-03-2007 01:16 PM

C did 6 hour stretches from month 2-4.5.

Now she wakes every three to four hours.

What happened?????

Ah yes, it is just a phase.

BetsyS 01-03-2007 04:31 PM

We had 6 weeks of waking only once a night, then 3 weeks of sleeping all night (8 pm-6 am), then well, the fun was on. It started at 3 months for us.

Last night, he got up 4 times between 7pm and 6:30 am--twice before we went to bed, twice after. And, yes, they are all quick eat, go right back to sleep, but I'm still sleep deprived at this point.

Sailmom 01-03-2007 04:43 PM

Booker was sleeping almost 10 hours up until month 3 hit. Now he is up for a quick snack and back to sleep 2-3 times a night. He is also sleeping in our bed more and more. He started out in a crib in our room. He still starts the night there, but from first waking on, he is in bed with us. It seems he really is a cosleeping child. DD hated to sleep with us from day one. She slept in a crib in her own room from week 2 on. And slept through the night from then as well. Booker is a totally different animal. But a very sweet and cuddly baby. Just wish I could get some more sleep!

JenMidwife 01-07-2007 11:55 PM

yep, us too, only our started around 3.5 months & I'm afraid it's not a temporary growth spurt @ our house :

how are you guys getting your babes back to sleep?

NewAtThis 01-10-2007 03:09 AM

Unfortunately, after our new routine seems to be getting later, and later, and later...dd is now up to 11-midnight or so. She sleeps later in the morning, so she's still getting good sleep, but dh and I are desperate to get her to sleep earlier. We need to adjust her "night time". Any suggestions??

veganf 01-10-2007 12:14 PM

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We need to adjust her "night time". Any suggestions??
I'd just slowly start a bedtime routine 5-10 minutes earlier every few nights until it's where you'd like it.

Nate had a few night recently of nursing for 5 minutes, sleep for 15 minutes, repeat this 4 times until mama gets annoyed! Usually around 4am. But he seems to be back to what he was doing before, and even slept an hour late this morning.
He still sometimes wakes once before I go to bed around 10pm or so, but he nurses back to sleep really quickly. He usually goes to sleep at 7:30 at the same time as his brothers now, and wakes around 7am just after they get up.
He even took his first nap in "the big crib" yesterday in their room.

blairinargentina 01-10-2007 01:40 PM

Isa is nowhere near the "sleep through the night" snoozer she was for the first 4 months. but, after almost two weeks since posting this thread, we are seeing some small improvements. i think most of her sleep troubles are from teething now, so who knows how long that will last.

at the moment she is still waking every few hrs all night but atleast she can be soothed easier now... basically just give her a paci and she zonks out again... as opposed to the screaming fits of last week .

we added a running water cd last night and i think it did help with getting her back to sleep as well.

Robynee 01-10-2007 01:41 PM

Sean was going down for the night at 8 faithfully until last week. Now he is staying awake til 10 or 11. He takes three naps a day, so starting today I am dropping the dinner time nap in hopes that he'll go back to his earlier bedtime. I NEED that time to decompress, especially when I'm watching my neice and nephew from 8am-7pm.: I know he's going to get really cranky tonight at dinner time but hopefully he will adjust quickly. Wish me luck!

magpiedee 01-10-2007 02:05 PM

Well, now that i've lost my original response, let's try again before I fall asleep on the keyboard.

I am a zombie. Cleo's sleep fell apart at 4 months, from a nice, steady, doable 9pm-2am, 2am-4am, 4am-9am. Now it's 5+ wakings and munchings a night, and sometimes she'll just decide that 6am is a great time to talk, kick or try to rip her own ear off with her razor-sharp talons.

Then, during the day, she refuses to be out of arms for 3 minutes before the whining, grouching and "fake" crying starts up, where she makes the noises but not he faces, like she doesn't mean it, just knows i'll come to her. So I feel like an awful mom, and i'm already sleepy, and I can't get anything done.

Not my favorite phase. :

veganf 01-10-2007 06:21 PM

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He takes three naps a day, so starting today I am dropping the dinner time nap in hopes that he'll go back to his earlier bedtime.
Nate takes 3 naps a day too, but he goes to sleep at 7:30, 8pm at the latest. But he's starting to also show signs of moving towards 2 naps a day. That will sure make our daily schedule easier around here, since right now he naps at very inconvenient times as far as preschool drop-off and pick-up is concerned; I've been having my husband do both and then go to work so that we don't mess with his naps.

veganf 01-10-2007 06:23 PM

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Now it's 5+ wakings and munchings a night, and sometimes she'll just decide that 6am is a great time to talk, kick or try to rip her own ear off with her razor-sharp talons.
Nate had been doing this for a week before his 5th tooth came in. I thought it was cute how he'd grab at his ear as he was falling asleep nursing (or try to shove a finger into his mouth to chew on WHILE nursing : ). So I guess it was just teething after all.

JenMidwife 01-10-2007 06:56 PM

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Nate had been doing this for a week before his 5th tooth came in. I thought it was cute how he'd grab at his ear as he was falling asleep nursing (or try to shove a finger into his mouth to chew on WHILE nursing : ). So I guess it was just teething after all.
he has FIVE teeth now?! :

how advanced

Robynee 01-11-2007 10:06 AM

Yeah! It worked. Two naps, bed at 8. (I won't even get into how many times he wakes up at night because I honestly have no idea. Nighttime is such a blur.)

blairinargentina 01-11-2007 12:33 PM

ahhh, the blur of nightwaking! know how that goes! isa has done the same thing two nights in a row... skips the evening (normally around 6ish) nap and then goes right to bed at 8pm and sleeps better than before... or atleast for a longer first stretch.

she is a little more cranky in the evening (no more quiet dinners!) but she is still happy enough with being awake. i dont feel like we are "keeping her up" or anything.

veganf 01-11-2007 01:10 PM

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Yeah! It worked. Two naps, bed at 8. (I won't even get into how many times he wakes up at night because I honestly have no idea. Nighttime is such a blur.)
Yay!
I have no idea about the nightwaking too. Because sometimes I'll say he slept right through, but my husband swears that he woke up and ate when he came to bed later. It's totally possible, and thank goodness I don't remember having to feed him that many times during the night!

Bay Area Babe 01-15-2007 05:51 AM

Lucas was sleeping 3-4 hours starting the first few weeks, then 5-6, then one night 8.5 hours at 3 months. I thought it was just a fluke but then he slept 7-8 hours the next few nights. Then the walls caved in. The last 6 weeks have been a mish-mash of sleepless nights for all of us. Sometimes he wakes up after 45 minutes to an hour, and about 50% of those times a binky or a quick soothe will get him back to bed. He's then up every 2-3 hours, could be up for the day at 6 or 7 or 8 or 9. Who knows.

We talked about this recently with our Ped and she seems to be in agreement that my period coming back (right around the walls caving in) and teething are the most likely culprits.

I have Elizabeth Pantley's the No Cry Sleep Solution though I haven't made the time to read it yet...

JenMidwife 01-15-2007 02:07 PM

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I have Elizabeth Pantley's the No Cry Sleep Solution though I haven't made the time to read it yet...
it's great! (though may not be an ultimate solution)

SummerTwilight 01-15-2007 10:24 PM

Why would your period coming back make a difference to the babes?

the_lissa 01-15-2007 10:37 PM

Some babies find the milk tastes different, and sometimes it can cause a decrease in supply.

Bay Area Babe 01-16-2007 04:00 AM

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Some babies find the milk tastes different, and sometimes it can cause a decrease in supply.
Yup. Definitely noticed a decrease in supply. Our ped also mentioned something about hormones?

veganf 01-16-2007 12:21 PM

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and sometimes it can cause a decrease in supply.
I feel like I'm constantly pms right now because I haven't gotten my period back yet but I know it's trying. And I had to start drinking extra water and eating oatmeal to keep my donor supply up. Even still I can't get an extra 20 ounces every day now, often more like 12-16oz. But it could also be that Nate is eating more too.
Eh, you're all just pregnant again : (kidding)!

SummerTwilight 01-17-2007 01:17 PM

My child is trying to kill me. Why did I ever boast? She slept well for a week, then 3 crappy days then 4 good ones and now we are on day 5 of whiney, walk the floors with me mom and don't you dare lay down, up 45 times a night BEFORE MIDNIGHT ALONE!!! And when dh is home (weekends only) I STILL don't get a break cause she will NOT sleep for him. Being up every 15 minutes does NOT agree with me. I want to hurt someone, mostly myself.:


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