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Well we had our 2nd MW apt ( 9wks 2 days) she was unable to pick up the heartbeat however thought she heard it reallllllly quick. We go back at about 13wks so should then. Everything else is great bloodtest results and urine sample : O )

Anyone get lucky hearing the heartbeat?


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We saw it on ultrasound which was kind of cool. I don't want the midwife to use the Doppler on me -- sets a bad precedent. I can wait till they can get it on a fetoscope (which won't be till after I can feel the baby moving anyway!)
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She should definitely be able to get it at 13w, 9w is still pretty early if she's using a 2mhrz probe.

I'm not planning on an ultrasound or listening with the Doppler....I'm patiently waiting (sort of patiently, LOL) to be able to find it myself with the fetoscope.
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I had a minor meltdown yesterday (long story) & went into my midwives office for one of them to listen for the heartbeat.
She said it's really hit & miss getting it at 11 weeks.
But she was able to get it right away!
I was SO relieved! It was nice to hear the heartbeat!

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BC Glad to hear it made you feel better

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yeah, 9 weeks is really early to hear the HB unless you're BONE thin and the baby is in a really good spot. Don't worry... it'll all work out.

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When I was pg with dd I was very thin, and they still couldn't get it until 15 wks.

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On average it's around 16 weeks when it can be picked up by doppler. Anything before that, just dismiss it.

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16 weeks for average? That's never been my average. I can almost always get it by 12-13W unless there's an anterior placenta. But, I guess I should say that's with a high quality Doppler as well as they all vary.
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Why would you dismiss anything before 16 weeks? I think I got one at 12 weeks with DS. What is the controversy over the doppler? Someone on this board said it was more harmful than ultrasound. Even if it is only done three or four times (until the fetoscope thing can work?)

I had an U/S yesterday. I had posted my deliberation on this board (DH didn't think he wanted one). My MW wanted to do one since I just had a miscarriage. It was a little nerve-wracking (since the last one was so depressing), but I saw a baby in there with a little heartbeat. I could see limbs and the face - it was more detailed than I thought at 8 weeks.

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I heard my dd's at 12 weeks.

THis time I am holding out for a fetoscope too. We're going to try at 17 weeks, but I'm not getting any hopes up.

I don't think there is a controversy over doppler. Some are comfortable with it some are not.

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What is the controversy over the doppler? Someone on this board said it was more harmful than ultrasound. Even if it is only done three or four times (until the fetoscope thing can work?)
With Dopplers (ultrasound) it's considered nonionizing radiation where they have information that while it is turned on cell replication stops. Doppler actually has a stronger and continuous beam vs visual ultrasound so some will choose to do a visual ultrasound but not use Doppler. It is said that ultrasound also produces a high pitched sound, which for me I completely believe that it's true because I've seen babies jump and move away once the Doppler or visual ultrasound are turned on. I am not doing either as I personally do not feel comfortable with ultrasound and think that there are a lot of unknowns about it and I don't trust what it can and cannot see anyway. Plus, I just kind of feel that if we were meant to see our babies early we'd be born with a little window in our uterus.
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Sorry, ws rushed when I typed that. By dismiss I meant to say "if you CAN'T hear anything before that, dismiss it"

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I also had my 1st appt this past Monday and I was 9wks as well. She couldn't find my baby's heartbeat either. Makes me feel so much better reading that it is very normal. I have a referral to get an u/s for dating purposes since I am pretty much clueless how far along I am. I kind of want to just make sure everything is ok in there though.
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Just wanted to clarify... around 12 weeks is the average with Dopplers (although I have found some at around 9-10 weeks... it is rare and depends on the woman). For the fetoscope, about 16 weeks is average. What I learned in midwifery school, and my experience with pregnant women.

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16 weeks with a fetoscope, are you sure?...
'Cause that's not what my midwife told me. She wouldn't even try with the fetoscope until I was almost 20 weeks, and said that it's not that common to find the heartbeat with the doppler at 12-13 weeks. We used it only briefly and once I recall her being completely unable to find it at 13 weeks but she dismissed it as very normal.

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16 weeks with a fetoscope, are you sure?...
'Cause that's not what my midwife told me. She wouldn't even try with the fetoscope until I was almost 20 weeks, and said that it's not that common to find the heartbeat with the doppler at 12-13 weeks. We used it only briefly and once I recall her being completely unable to find it at 13 weeks but she dismissed it as very normal.
I've never been able to get heart tones with a fetoscope at 16 weeks. I also won't even think about trying until after 20 weeks. I've sometimes not even been able to get it until 27 weeks depending on where the placenta is and how much fluff a woman has (I'm sure it will be later for me).
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I've never been able to get heart tones with a fetoscope at 16 weeks. I also won't even think about trying until after 20 weeks. I've sometimes not even been able to get it until 27 weeks depending on where the placenta is and how much fluff a woman has (I'm sure it will be later for me).
That's exactly what my old midwife told me, too. And I see that all over websites selling fetoscopes.

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Same here. My midwives never even tried till after 20wks.
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About fetoscopes my MW had told us she used to be able to hear with it at 14 wks however as she ages its more like 16/18


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With Dopplers (ultrasound) it's considered nonionizing radiation where they have information that while it is turned on cell replication stops. Doppler actually has a stronger and continuous beam vs visual ultrasound so some will choose to do a visual ultrasound but not use Doppler. It is said that ultrasound also produces a high pitched sound, which for me I completely believe that it's true because I've seen babies jump and move away once the Doppler or visual ultrasound are turned on. I am not doing either as I personally do not feel comfortable with ultrasound and think that there are a lot of unknowns about it and I don't trust what it can and cannot see anyway. Plus, I just kind of feel that if we were meant to see our babies early we'd be born with a little window in our uterus.
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I have been having bleeding on and off. I am 9 weeks. I went to my MW yesterday and we were able to clearly hear the heartbeat at 9 weeks exactly with the doppler. She told me most likely we will not hear the HB but because I am on the thin side...we just may. I was very pleased.

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Like I said in my earlier post, I was speaking from my experience and what I learned in class. I can get one around 16 weeks most of the time, but I wouldn't consider it abnormal if I couldn't get one until after 20 weeks. This is the average, so for some women it's a bit earlier, and some later.

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You must have super sonic hearing!
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Haha, I guess so!

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We saw it on ultrasound which was kind of cool. I don't want the midwife to use the Doppler on me -- sets a bad precedent. I can wait till they can get it on a fetoscope (which won't be till after I can feel the baby moving anyway!)
Well, I'm a total sook and after an incredibly feeble protest I let her use the Doppler today. Fortunately even at just 9w5d she found it pretty quickly. The bean's still in there (duh), and it was reassuring to hear that, statistically, pregnancies where they've found the heart beat in the office have only a 2% chance of failure.

I can't imagine how frustrated I would be with my care if I were planning to birth with an ob/gyn in a hospital, using a CNM and looking at a semi-medicalized freestanding birth center is bad enough.
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I have been able to pick up our little one starting around 10 weeks. I do try really hard not to get freaked if I don't hear it. I know that it's still early.
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