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Anyone have a real link to this? Re the duggers?

I'm having an arugment with my aunt, she claims that the Duggers don't hit the babies to blanket train them, they just KNOW not to move (whatever). She's real big in to Ezzo and Dobson...we were discussing them because of the new show (she thinks they are just great...although she's a 2 kid type of person, kwim?)

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I did google and can only find people saying stuff on message boards and blogs, thanks.

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I had to do a search because I've never heard of it, or the Duggers for that matter... and don't really keep up on Ezzo... but I could only find ads and "learn blankets study blanketing" crap
sounds very interesting (ha) though :
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Duggars are very "interesting" family (freaky to me , sorry)

Here is what I got about blanket training

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They also practice blanket training. Know what that is? It means placing a baby on a blanket and then hitting all around the edge of the blanket with a wooden spoon or a stick as a threat to the baby not to get off the blanket. If the baby tries to crawl off, and it does, baby gets a couple whacks (usually on the back of the legs).

Once baby is "trained", then Mom can leave it there while she talks with others.
So , I bet they Know not to move in this case :

Here are some links that talk about them

http://theologica.worldmagblog.com/t...sixteen_t.html

http://bunky.typepad.com/my_name_is_...ggar_deba.html
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They also practice blanket training. Know what that is? It means placing a baby on a blanket and then hitting all around the edge of the blanket with a wooden spoon or a stick as a threat to the baby not to get off the blanket. If the baby tries to crawl off, and it does, baby gets a couple whacks (usually on the back of the legs).

Once baby is "trained", then Mom can leave it there while she talks with others.
OMG! Thats horrible!!!
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That sounds so scary for a little one! I can't imagine!
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Well, I blanket-trained my kids without hitting them, and I never even knew that some people used hitting as part of blanket-training until I read it here. But I'm not familiar with the people you're talking about. If they say they practice blanket-training and don't mention spanking, I wouldn't assume that they hit.
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Using logic, I think we can correctly assume that the Dugger's hit with blanket training. The curriculum they use with their children is very fond of hitting.

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Oh now I know who you're talking about. I saw their show and they did have a "paddle" hanging on the back of the door... I think it's safe to say they don't spare the rod.
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that's horrible..

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Wow, I couldn't read this and NOT post even though I haven't a clue who the Duggers are and had never heard of "blanket training" until now! Really? Parents train their kiddos to stay on a blanket so they can just walk away? First, that doesn't sound safe to me (what happens if the babe leaves anyway?). And, second, what does that teach the child? Even if you're not hitting it doesn't sound developmentally appropriate to me. :

So, who are these people?
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I literally jumped in my seat upon reading that quote. How sickening.
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I literally jumped in my seat upon reading that quote. How sickening.
ME TOO! I jumped, gasped, and slapped my hand on my mouth...

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Hurts my heart and soul to think of it.

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Blanket training is revolting.

I don't think much of the Duggars, either. More power to people who want to have large families, THAT I don't have a problem with, but their attitude toward and about their children is seriously disturbing.
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We had a thread on blanket training awhile back. You might want to do a search for the term in this forum

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jakesmama So, who are these people?
If you've got a few years, here's the thread
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If you've got a few years, here's the thread
A few decades is more like it!
I remember this family now. I watched something on TLC about them back when they *only* had fifteen kids (I think mom was preg with number fifteen). I was trying to pick up on whether they were very attached-type family or not but that particular show didn't really let on too much. I can't imagine having that many children! So they blanket train, huh? Why not just have an older sib take care of the baby if mom's busy...I guess I need to go search up the blanket-training thread since I cannot seem to wrap my mind around why it would be useful or appropriate. Thanks for the link!
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Oh man...so I'm about mid way through the old thread about blanket training...and I think I might actually be feeling a bit ill. The whole concept just goes against everything in my soul...I am not sure who this "Gothard" person is that is referred to a lot in the old thread, but from the sounds of it - I am not going to search on google because he doesn't sound like the type of crap I want to put in my head. Blech.

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She's real big in to Ezzo .

I'm not sure about blanket training, but tell your aunt about Ezzo.info and that Ezzo was excommunicated by his church! John MacArthur. That is a BIG deal for any christian.
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Yeah, I just read the ENTIRE old thread - all the longwinded responses!
My eyes have been opened. I had no knowledge of blanket training before now.
But now my eyes also hurt. That's a lot of reading.

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Yeah, I just read the ENTIRE old thread - all the longwinded responses!
My eyes have been opened. I had no knowledge of blanket training before now.
But now my eyes also hurt. That's a lot of reading.


You are tougher than me. I read two pages and gave up :
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Using logic, I think we can correctly assume that the Dugger's hit with blanket training. The curriculum they use with their children is very fond of hitting.
What curriculum is that? You're talking about a homeschool program? That promotes hitting/spanking of *babies*? That's creepy.
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Oh now I know who you're talking about. I saw their show and they did have a "paddle" hanging on the back of the door... I think it's safe to say they don't spare the rod.
I have a paddle on the back of my door and I've never used it to hit a child. I mean, maybe they do hit their kids, but I wouldn't assume so just because they blanket-train and own a paddle.
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[QUOTE]You are tougher than me. I read two pages and gave up[QUOTE]


Ha! Me too. I got the jist and can't see where this is developmentally appropriate whether or not one hits to enforce the training! I would much rather take my child with me to the restroom than to leave them on a blanket with what are essentially invisible walls put there by either fear or manipulation. Plus, what happens should they move? Does one scold and punish a child for doing what is exactly their nature? What if they get into danger while you are away? I think it's interesting the things that people think of that have never crossed my mind. Blanket training! Who'd of thunk?
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Well, I blanket-trained my kids without hitting them, and I never even knew that some people used hitting as part of blanket-training until I read it here.
Wow! I've never heard of it happening any other way!

so, do tell... how does one blanket "train" a baby AP style???
I'm just trying to imagine my toddler quietly hanging out on a blanket on her own accord.:



...nope, can't do it!
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Wow! I've never heard of it happening any other way!

so, do tell... how does one blanket "train" a baby AP style???
I'm just trying to imagine my toddler quietly hanging out on a blanket on her own accord.:



...nope, can't do it!
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Great.
I read through 10 VERY long pages of very thought provoking discussion, go to bed, realize I'm hungry so I'm up eating a sandwich and meander over here - and the discussion is on again...you ladies are going to make it impossible for me to get any sleep! lol

I mean, yeah I read everything on that old thread, but I STILL for the life of me cannot put 'blanket-training' and 'attachment parenting' into the same realm of thought. How can you profess to follow the latter, yet DO the former?

And I can't wrap my brain around the reasoning behind expecting an INFANT to have the ability to process his thoughts in a way to think "Okay, Mommy says to stay here, so to heck with how badly I really want to crawl over to that ray of sun on the floor over there...I'll just stay put". It's just not in their realm of possibilities.

bah.

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Plus, what happens should they move? Does one scold and punish a child for doing what is exactly their nature?
I never scolded or punished mine. I can't speak for these other people of course.
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I never scolded or punished mine. I can't speak for these other people of course.
Why did they stay on the blanket?

When my kids played on a blanket, say at the park or something, we always moved OFF of it...I can't imagine any mobile baby willingly staying in one spot very long.

What is the purpose of the blanket at home?

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It means placing a baby on a blanket and then hitting all around the edge of the blanket with a wooden spoon or a stick as a threat to the baby not to get off the blanket. If the baby tries to crawl off, and it does, baby gets a couple whacks (usually on the back of the legs). Once baby is "trained", then Mom can leave it there while she talks with others.
This sounds like training a dog. Not that I would do this with my dog, but it does not sound like anything a human would do with a human.
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