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#151 of 164 Old 01-23-2007, 01:09 PM - Thread Starter
 
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While I slept this morning, my kids dumped out about 3 bags of flour, 6 boxes of (new cereal), the (new) big bag of oatmeal, my coffee, and who knows what else all over my living room floor. WTF??? I don't even know what to do with them let alone where to start cleaning it! : They obviously have to help, but there have to be other (logical/natural) consequences...WWYD? They honestly have wasted close to $100 in food.

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Seriously, please stop criticizing me for what happened.

The food was on the lowest shelf in a tall pantry cabinet. Right at their level. No one could have gotten hurt pulling the food out.

It's like people think I'm stupid because my kids made a mess!!!! Sh*t happens sometimes!!!!


FTR, I have always had one of the best child-proofed homes of everyone I know!!! And just because I won't put a lock on my pantry closet does not mean I want to put my kids in danger!!! That cabinet has nothing dangerous in it (just messy)!!!!! I shouldn't be shamed for not wanting to put locks on my food cabinet.

I am SO sure that the people making comments have children who have NEVER made a mess, or gotten into something they wish they hadn't!! And if they haven't yet....watch out!!
Of all the posts on this page, that was probably the most loaded and most offensive.

The reason there's such a focus on logical consequences is because logical consequences are not limited to children. They continue to occur throughout our lifetime. Consider the mess (and the clean-up) your logical consequence for not supervising your children more closely.
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Of all the posts on this page, that was probably the most loaded and most offensive.

The reason there's such a focus on logical consequences is because logical consequences are not limited to children. They continue to occur throughout our lifetime. Consider the mess (and the clean-up) your logical consequence for not supervising your children more closely.
Whoa...I'd say take it easy...this mamma was getting flamed and sticking up for herself. As a pp stated, messes happen even when you are in the next room. Kids are just impulsive, curious creatures. The OP had her logical consequence, she spent the day cleaning it up and lost $ in food. Your guilting her is not a logical consequence and as I see it kinda rude.

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I think it's pretty unrealistic to post pictures of a mess and say it occured when you were asleep and not expect people to suggest that she not sleep when her kids are awake.
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BIG HUGE s mama!!! I cannot imagine waking to that!!! I completely understand needing some zzz's AND not putting locks in some things. We live in an apt and are not allowed to put child locks on our cabinets. We have had to be very careful in our planning of the kitchen space b/c of this. Everything below counter is unbreakable (or at least would take some HEAVY duty abuse to break), non-toxic, and okay for kids if they get into it. We have a tall closet that is our pantry and DS (33mo) can open the door and realistically get into MOST of what's in there.

Here are some suggestions I have (coming from a similar standpoint of food being accessible to the kids. I know you said you want o preven this and while keeping the kids in the room w/ you is a start, we all know what escape artists they can be. Wouldn't want this happening while you went to the bathroom or anything.)~

*could you put the bags of stuff (flour, sugar, etc) on top of your fridge? This is where we store our flour and sugar so the kids can't get to it (easily at least... )

*maybe rearrange your food cabinets so that things are in a different place? I've found that it's easier for me to put cans and airtight, kids-can't-open-it-without-the-jaws-of-life stuff towards the bottom so that it's the first thing they reach for instead of the boxed stuff like cereal.

*if the above doesn't help, maybe try and find some sort of container that's harder to open than a cereal bag?? The 5yo may be able to get it open, but it may take a little longer or be a deterance (sp)??

This is all I could come up w/ for help in the prevention aspect. It sounds like you handled it as well as you could, mama WTG

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Ebay some toys. They probably have some toys they're bored of anyway. I mean, the treat thing was pretty gentle... But that's just like... to teach a lesson. But the toy thing... it would probably be for the better. Get rid of the toys that the kids don't want so they don't take up space, but sell the toys on ebay so you do not waste money.

That is my advice.
Charlotte....the only thing is they might feel like they are being "punished" over what happened. KWIM?

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Sheesh!

I'm glad you made it through that one sister!

What a mess! But it sounds like you have some pretty free and creative kids.

That reminds me of a classic from our book of family lore:

When my older brother was a toddler (4-5 maybe), he had a similar episode with Comet cleaner (this is over 30 years ago) at our grandmother's house. Apparently he had spilled something and wanted to 'clean' it up, so he dumped the cleanser all over the floor. When our G-ma returned and said, with alarm, that he would have to clean the mess up, he pulled out the liquid dishwashing soap and poured the entire bottle out over the Comet. He was honestly trying to clean up his mess. Needless to say, her kitchen looked like someone had thrown a foam-party there for days (I'm told).

My brother is now one of the most meticulous men I know. Clean, tidy and extremely successful. So take heart!
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Of all the posts on this page, that was probably the most loaded and most offensive.

The reason there's such a focus on logical consequences is because logical consequences are not limited to children. They continue to occur throughout our lifetime. Consider the mess (and the clean-up) your logical consequence for not supervising your children more closely.
Without agreeing with your original point, I'd like to say that you seem to have taken the honor of the most offensive and loaded post.

My sympathies to the OP about the incident, the frustrations of trying to get enough sleep, and the bash-fest that some of this thread has become.
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I am sorry for not reading every single post in this thread.

But have you considered napping in the living room while they're awake? I find that my son is better behaved when I'm there, even if I'm not conscious. Also, you'd probably have noticed the mess sooner.

Luckily, I'm blessed with a neurotic toddler who cannot stand to see crumbs on the table and will start exclaiming "mess! mess!" until someone cleans it up (he even freaks out about getting bubbles on his hands in a bubble bath!) so this is one parenting crisis I hope to avoid ... at least with this child. I'm not sure how I would have reacted in your situation. I probably would have just sat down and cried.
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I think it's pretty unrealistic to post pictures of a mess and say it occured when you were asleep and not expect people to suggest that she not sleep when her kids are awake.
Yes, the only problem being that we don't really have a choice or control over when our children wake in the morning. The OP said something along the lines of "While I was sleeping in the morning...." It could very well be that the mother had not yet gotten out of bed, and the children woke up and destroyed the living room while she was still fast asleep. It has happened to me, and I co-sleep. Kids can be sneaky and quiet when they decide they want to "help" you by making their own breakfast and allowing you to "sleep in." (That was my daughter's explanation to an early morning breakfast mess - thankfully not as catastrophic as the OP's disaster!)

I think it's pretty unrealistic to expect mothers to start setting their alarm clocks for 3am so they're sure to be up in time before their early birds sneak out of bed.
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Okay, everyone.....I think the OP has gotten plenty of advice in an effort to avoid an incident of this powdery magnitude from ever occuring again Please remember that we are each doing the best that we can in the unique circumstances that we find ourselves.

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Lock up the food! Lock the kitchen up! :LOL Really, I'd hate to have that happen to me. We don't use flour or eat cereal, but anything we have is very valuable. I'd have a cow! Maybe having just one kid is a good thing.

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