definite lip tie, can't see a tongue tie please help! - Mothering Forums

Forum Jump: 
 
Thread Tools
#1 of 6 Old 05-24-2011, 01:12 PM - Thread Starter
 
ILoveMyBabyBird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,489
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)

Ds had a lip tie, I also suffer from low milk supply, possible IGT, was only able to make about 40-50% of ds's needs. Now with dd, I see a definite lip tie, but she is having much more problems than ds did. I am supplementing the same, but I have also been taking herbs, have had increased growth, and don't feel like she is getting anymore milk than ds, but i don't think she is an efficient nurser, I have read many people just tuck the lips out for the lip tie and i have been doing that, rather than getting it clipped, but she also has a shallow latch, weak suck, and i just was reading on a web site about tongue tie and dd also has problems with clicking sounds, smacking sounds, she gags alot and chokes and drools a lot, but i cannot see a tongue tie at all. Am I missing something? Advice needed!

 

 


supermod.gif semi crunchy single student super mama to DS 7wave.gif and DD 3shy.gif. Falling in stillheart.gif with single super dad superhero.gif to DD5kissy.gif and DD2energy.gif 
ILoveMyBabyBird is offline  
#2 of 6 Old 05-24-2011, 01:36 PM
 
Momo123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 190
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)

Could she have a posterior tongue tie? That is harder to see than a anterior tongue tie where you can clearly see the frenulum attached to the tongue towards the front and the heart-shaped tongue tip. My DS had a lip and posterior tie and it took several lactation consultants to finally diagnose the tie, and one ENT even said he didn't have a tongue tie. Here's a link with some photos of posterior ties (scroll down)...

 

http://www.cwgenna.com/quickhelp.html

PatioGardener likes this.

Mom to DS born 6/09 and DS2 born 6/12

Momo123 is offline  
#3 of 6 Old 05-24-2011, 05:24 PM
 
ShwarmaQueen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Deep in the heart of Texas
Posts: 5,597
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)

I agree with the pp. Posterior tt can be hard to diagnose. My DS could stick his tongue out past his bottom lip but he couldn't lift it up to his palate (to support or 'hold' the breast) so he clicked and lost suction constantly.

 

Also, I've heard lip tie and tt go hand in hand because it occurs during the same process (or lack there of) while in utero.

 

Good luck.

PatioGardener likes this.

Momma to DD (12/04) hearts.gif and DS (11/09) hbac.gif.
I survived 16 mos! Ask me about breastfeeding a baby with posterior tongue tie, high palate, and weak oral motor skills- whew!

ShwarmaQueen is offline  
#4 of 6 Old 05-24-2011, 05:25 PM
 
ShwarmaQueen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Deep in the heart of Texas
Posts: 5,597
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)

Also, don't hesitate to take her to an LC. They are worth their weight in gold!!

PatioGardener likes this.

Momma to DD (12/04) hearts.gif and DS (11/09) hbac.gif.
I survived 16 mos! Ask me about breastfeeding a baby with posterior tongue tie, high palate, and weak oral motor skills- whew!

ShwarmaQueen is offline  
#5 of 6 Old 05-25-2011, 01:01 PM
 
homemademom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,277
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)

Ditto the posterior tongue tie. IMO, it's less about what someone "sees" under that tongue and more about what the tongue can do functionally. Check out that link given by momo123. I found this link helpful, too http://www.lunalactation.com/KnoxTT.pdf

PatioGardener likes this.

I love homemade: cute skirts, apricot jam, and family! 
homemademom is offline  
#6 of 6 Old 05-26-2011, 12:30 PM - Thread Starter
 
ILoveMyBabyBird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,489
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)

okay I contacted a local LLL leader and got some names of those that know about tongue tie and will clip them, I am going to bring dd on tuesday to a Pediatric nurse who is also an IBCLC she squeezed dd in eventhough she isn't taking new patients, hoping we can get this figured out, as I just know something is not right with dd, I have tried about 6 different bottle nipples and she still drools and spits milk out while eating from all the types of bottles, some less than others, but you know that mother's instinct telling you something just isn't right, well that is what this is i suppose, so yeah i know i have low milk supply, but there is definitely something going on dd's end as well, I don't think i noticed it much the first couple weeks as I was only giving dd 5-8 ounces of supplement and my milk didnt come in until day 4 but now that she is needing more i am noticing it and a lot more gagging and choking when she breastfeeds and eats from a bottle...will check out that link now!


supermod.gif semi crunchy single student super mama to DS 7wave.gif and DD 3shy.gif. Falling in stillheart.gif with single super dad superhero.gif to DD5kissy.gif and DD2energy.gif 
ILoveMyBabyBird is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Drag and Drop File Upload
Drag files here to attach!
Upload Progress: 0
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Mothering Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off