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#1 of 4 Old 11-11-2007, 08:41 PM - Thread Starter
 
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My little guy has a "tied" upper lip. The frenulum up there is so short that it looks like he has a double upper lip, if that makes any sense. It's real thick between where his front teeth will eventually be. Now, I've noticed this since birth, but remember being taught sometime that he'll likely fall once or twice as an infant/toddler and "break" it and problem solved. So it's never bothered me.

Here's my question: Connor has had LOTS of nursing problems and we've been struggling all along to keep him at the breast. Some of his problems have stemmed from an airway malformation and a swallowing disorder. But he continues to grow painfully slow. It's only just now ocurring to me that maybe, just maybe, his short upper lip could be affecting his latch and his ability to transfer milk?? I have a great supply, I pump on average 20-30 ounces a week more than he drinks, so we've known all along that my supply isn't the problem.

Has anyone heard of a short upper lip frenulum being a problem? Any suggestions on who to take him to for an eval? A dentist? An ENT? Speech therapist? He's been seen many times by ENTs and speech therapists, no one has ever mentioned this.

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I wanted to add, too, that he "clicks" while nursing, always has. We've never been able to figure out why he does that, obviously he's breaking suction somewhere/somehow, but none of the lactation consultants, therapists, or drs have been able to figure that out (and we actually did a FEES swallow study WHILE HE WAS NURSING and they still couldn't see how he was breaking suction.) Could it be that short upper lip??? Gosh, this never ocurred to me until today...

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I think it's likely that is the lip tie that is causing issues. My ds2 was tongue tied and seems he's lip tied as well. The tongue tie was clipped by the midwife and greatly improved his nursing but didn't make it 100% better. He also clicked for months but doesn't anymore at 12mths. I actually came across somethings about lip tie when I was reading about being tongue tied that indicated it could cause problems, I didn't book mark the websties though.

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Dr. Palmer has some info.

http://www.brianpalmerdds.com/pdf/Bfing_Frenum03.pdf

(note, some explicit pictures. If you just want the lip-tie slides, go to slides 43 onwards.)
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