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I don't understand why the WAPF is against fish oil.

What if I want to take fish oil in addition to the fermented CLO?

What if fresh seafood is too expensive? It's better to just take the CLO and get no other seafood in my diet than to take fish oil? A person can only take so much CLO without overdosing on vitamins A and D.

What if I happen to have an overabundance of pro-inflammatory prostaglandins that are causing pain. Isn't it better to take fish oil rather than aspirin or other NSAIDS?

Somebody please help me with this.
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The only explanation I've ever heard them give is from Sally Fallon, who said that you can get an excess of Omega 3's from fish oil. I do not understand that, and think it's weird that she couldn't explain it better.

I do understand the idea that fish oils these days are pretty highly processed, and getting further and further away from their food state. (For example, the processed cod liver oil has just one type of A, whereas the unprocessed fermented CLO has bunches a different variations of A. I think there are similar variations in processed fish oils.)

That said, I took fish oil when I was pregnant, in addition to FCLO. Now we are doing a high-quality, low-heat salmon oil from wild caught salmon, using the heads and not just the bodies for the oil. I feel like that's close to a whole-food state, and am satisfied with that.

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Is it because of the ease of which fish oil tends to go rancid? I personally am not anti-fish oil; it's part of the vitamin D supplement I take but it's been deodorized and all the other things that WAPF and people here frown on - but I ran out of my FCLO and I don't need that many vitamins right now anyhow.

However, I give my dog 2 fish oil capsules with her food, and I have to squeeze the oil out since her digestive tract isn't long enough to dissolve the gelatin caps. About one out of every 20 capsules or so is rancid, and disgusting - so I wouldn't take a capsule form of fish oil. (Besides which the capsules make me burp fishy. blech. The liquids are way nicer.)

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i tried different brands of fish and cod liver oil liquid:
seven seas, twinlab, carlson, garden of life, nature's answer, i generally finished the product in a month, and they never tasted rancid.
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That said, I took fish oil when I was pregnant, in addition to FCLO. Now we are doing a high-quality, low-heat salmon oil from wild caught salmon, using the heads and not just the bodies for the oil. I feel like that's close to a whole-food state, and am satisfied with that.
What oil is this? Brand?

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What oil is this? Brand?

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It's Vital Choice salmon oil, made from the heads of their own catch. They're a great company.

http://www.vitalchoice.com/index.cfm

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It's Vital Choice salmon oil, made from the heads of their own catch. They're a great company.

http://www.vitalchoice.com/index.cfm
Do you do this with the fclo?

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Do you do this with the fclo?
Well, this salmon oil has its original A and D, so it's feasible to do it instead of the FCLO. That's why I bought it, as a lower-cost alternative. It has lower amounts of A than FCLO, and less vitamin K. But we eat lots of liver, so I felt OK about our A and K levels. I still think that the FCLO is a better product, though, because the fermented state enhances its nutritional value.

They have a comparison to CLO on their faq:
http://www.vitalchoice.com/faq.cfm#189

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The only explanation I've ever heard them give is from Sally Fallon, who said that you can get an excess of Omega 3's from fish oil. I do not understand that, and think it's weird that she couldn't explain it better.
I read somewhere that they oppose fish oils because they aren't whole food supplements. They are isolates, which mean that the cofactors are removed.
If you're eating fish, the cofactors are included so it doesn't cause any imbalances, not the same with fish oil.
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There is a lot of research suggesting that Omega 3s in fish oil meet our need for Omega 3 and reduce inflammation, fight depression, heart disease, and diabetes. I would take the CLO for A and D (if you need them) and fish oil for the Omega 3 (if you need it). Right now I take fish oil. I'm gardening a lot and getting sunshine for the D. I have a lot of A in my diet.

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