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Old 10-01-2010, 12:45 PM - Thread Starter
 
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I hope I didn't step on any toes starting this, but I'm really struggling with sticking to my eating guns in my mixed household. My il's eat crap, although I have gotten them into a few things from Trader Joe's.

I've been doing some freezer meals. I also have a bunch of kale stems and other veggie scraps saved up to make some stock in my new 24 qt. stock pot!!! I am sooooo excited!

I made stew the other day, 6 batches.
Onions, garlic, lard, kale, mustard greens, turnip greens, turnips and parsnips in place of potatoes, uncured ham chunks to lure in the picky eaters, navy beans and baby limas soaked with whey first, ummm, redpepper flakes, pepper, celtic sea salt, home made stock, dry white wine, I think that's it.

Turned out great!

My biggest stumbling block is bread. I crave it! It doesn't agree with my belly though. What is your favorite quick grab food? Mine is toast. Grrr. I was doing larabars, but I'm getting sick of them and really when not used in moderation, it defeats the purpose I guess. I'm not doing well with nuts right now either. I need something quick with some crunch that I don't have to cook.

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I've been grain free for this last week and I'm so surprised about how good I feel that I'm going to try and keep it up for October. I told my HCP that I would try it for two weeks, which was my original goal.

My stumbling block is what to eat for that "filler" carbohydrate at dinner. I've been eating a lot of cabbage because it seems pretty versatile. I even made the normal burrito/taco meal and put it on cabbage instead of tortillas and it was delicious. My kids aren't too thrilled, but my Russian husband thinks it's great
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yeah cabbage and romaine leaves are great for that. For filler type stuff, mashed cauliflower is great in place of potatoes, and you can make little shreds of zucchini for rice or orzo, and ribbons for pasta, or spaghetti squash is good for pasta too. Also you can slice zucchini or eggplant and use it for lasagna.

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I've been grain-free for a few months now and it's going great. And, I just found the best thing ever - kelp noodles! They taste like nothing but feel like noodles, so I can eat spaghetti or noodle soup with the rest of the family. Sometimes I make zucchini noodles too. Mostly though, I just fill up on vegetables. With butter. (I am not fully paleo, I still like my dairy and I'm weightlifting to maintain/build muscle while I lose weight, so I rely pretty heavily on cottage cheese (and whey protein ) for extra protein... but a lot of my dairy is raw milk...)

I also don't eat any sugar (or honey or maple syrup) but I do eat as much fruit as I want. I don't restrict my eating otherwise.

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I need to cut out dairy as well, but I'm still working on successfully getting away from grains which is the hardest part, and doing both at once is even harder for me.

Kelp noodles sounds cool! What kind of store do you find them in? would the have them at whole foods or Trader Joe's or do I need to go to an Asian food market?

I'm more of a sit down with a bowl of veggies and some meat kinda girl myself. I just get bored with it sometimes.

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I got the kelp noodles at my local health food store (Lifestyles) which is sort of like a mini-TJs but less mainstream. They were in the same section as the tofu and soy nasties, refrigerated. They're promoted as a "raw food" but frankly they're a little too crunchy for me raw - they need some softening.

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I'm here, and I'm working on recovering from a sugar binge. On MDA they had this Primal Iron Chef contest, to make a recipe and take pics of the process w/ the secret ingredient being coconut. Working to perfect 3 coconutty recipes later, 2 of which were desserts including maple syrup, (which involved LOTS of taste testing on my part--by choice ) and I am in need of some very simple, VLC, real primal food! Whoah! And, I'm going CRAZY waiting for them to post the results of the contest (which are supposed to be posted today), as the prize was a VITAMIX!!!!!

We'll see what happens...

Anyway, I'm here, but too preoccupied w/ blender dreams to post anything substantial on the grain free front!

Oh--I'd love to hear about the freezer recipes harrietsmama! I'm just starting to work on doing more batch cooking, etc, and would love some more ideas!

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Well so far most of my freezer meals haven't counted for this thread because I'm also feeding picky kids and my il's, but I did make some chicken chunks that worked out great!

I got 5 lbs of chicken breasts and cut them up into bites, and I put this mix of dry spices on them in the bag:

* 1/4 cup paprika
* 1 tablespoon packed dark brown sugar
* 1 tablespoon white sugar
* 2 teaspoons salt
* 1 teaspoon celery salt
* 1 teaspoon ground black pepper
* 1 teaspoon cayenne pepper, or to taste
* 1 teaspoon dry mustard
* 1 teaspoon garlic powder
* 1 teaspoon onion powder

I just used the regular sugars listed, in organic fair trade, but you could use whatever you want, and I didn't use celery salt, just celery seed.

I made up 4 bags I think and just squished the powder all around and froze them.

the other stuff I made -
Strata, you could still make an egg casserole with lots of veggies, I used 27 eggs, plus a bunch of cheese shreds, broccoli, you can put in meat chunks, any veggies, and put in bags to freeze, defrost and put in the dish after you grease it with lard or duck fat.

Chicken/cheese filled shells, but you could do cabbage rolls, fill them with what ever combo you want

I made some other roast prep with a big bowl of my dry herbs, put it in the bag with the meat, shake it all over and freeze, so when it defrosts it sort of marinates and it's all ready to go.

I did lasagna, but you could make it with zucchini or eggplant slices but if you don't do cheese, might as well skip that.

oh! taco meat. I got 5 lbs of grass fed ground beef on sale and made taco filling. I didn't use a recipe, I threw in cumin ( probably around 1 tablespoon), chipotle peppers (6oz?), mild green chiles (16 oz?), onions, salt, regular pepper...ummm I think that's it.

that's it so far

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oh, and I reheat everything in the oven at 350, the strata took an hour, so the egg casserole mix would likely be similar.

The chicken bites I cook in a cast iron skillet, on medium it takes about 20 minutes for a gallon bag.

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Thanks for the details HM!

And, I checked on MDA and the Primal Iron Chef winner is up--and it wasn't me. BUT, the winning recipe looks really yummy! http://www.marksdailyapple.com/hazel...ealth-coconut/

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I just realized if you were to follow my notes above for the eggs, you wouldn't get the right thing, you would want to follow a frittata or quiche filling recipe to get the right stuff for the egg base

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I'm about to take a cross-country flight with my 16 month old DD next week, to visit my parents and various other family/friends in my hometown. Any primal snack ideas??

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I guess it kind of depends on how advanced an eater your little one is, but raw nuts, dried fruit, pemmican type stuff, larabars? I'm not totally sure what counts as primal vs just grain free.

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so i went from 90% vegan to paleo over night.
(vegan for ethics not for health)
in any case, i'm hungry! very very hungry.
so my main question is does this regulate itself and my body just gets used to being grain and dairy free or do i really need to eat a lot more than i have been. i know it's likely a combination but if there is any BTDT insight into what i can expect i'd be appreciative.

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so i went from 90% vegan to paleo over night.
(vegan for ethics not for health)
in any case, i'm hungry! very very hungry.
so my main question is does this regulate itself and my body just gets used to being grain and dairy free or do i really need to eat a lot more than i have been. i know it's likely a combination but if there is any BTDT insight into what i can expect i'd be appreciative.
Would you share what your diet was like (specific examples of what your typical day's meals looked like) along w/ what you're eating now? Maybe that would help us give some ideas.

Primal eating tends to be a lot less sugar in general than most other ways of eating--cutting grains/carbs so much in general will = less sugar overall. Lowering carb intake seems to cause food/carb/sugar cravings for me, so it may just be part of adjusting to the naturally lower carb intake of eating grain free/paleo.

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so i went from 90% vegan to paleo over night.
(vegan for ethics not for health)
in any case, i'm hungry! very very hungry.
so my main question is does this regulate itself and my body just gets used to being grain and dairy free or do i really need to eat a lot more than i have been. i know it's likely a combination but if there is any BTDT insight into what i can expect i'd be appreciative.
My transition was not overnight, but I was also mostly vegan for a long time and have transitioned to more and more paleo. What I've found is that grains/carbs fill you up a LOT more than just fruit, veggies, nuts, meats. The way I've solved the problem is to add in lots of fat. Mostly meat drippings, but also more olive oil, avocados, coconuts, and raw dairy/cream. What I've found is that I am MUCH more satisfied with a meal of meat & veggies with lots of fat than none at all....and I am feeling way better than I did as a vegetarian and vegan.

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I was hungry a lot at first and it got better.

I kept on eating the same things, and it just got better.

Now I can eat one meal for the whole day. Today I had breakfast and then dinner with friends and I am seriously stuffed. The fat has been important but I would say it will just get easier.
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Now I can eat one meal for the whole day. Today I had breakfast and then dinner with friends and I am seriously stuffed. The fat has been important but I would say it will just get easier.


I used to need to eat at least every 3 hours. Now I can eat 1-2x a day if I feel like it, and not enormous meals. I now typically do 2 meals a day (when I'm not PMSing ) But I started eating this way a/b a year ago, so I've had time to transition.

I believe most folks eating paleo/primal become keto-adapted, meaning your body gets used to burning fat for fuel instead of carbs. Then you can switch back and forth from burning fat or carbs for fuel easily. And when you are there, fasting, eating less in general, etc, is just easier/feels right. But when you are coming from carb burning mode this is a big transition.

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It took me a while to feel fine w/out snacking. (I've always snacked/ate/grazed when I wanted to whether or not I was primal/paleo--and it was normal for me to do this when I was first trying out primal eating.) At some point I just didn't feel like snacking for the most part, and then I started naturally skipping meals/IFing and feeling fine.

I'd keep eating primal/paleo foods whenever you are hungry and it will balance out over time...Keep us posted on how you're feeling!

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I'm joining! Very strict paleo type here - really I'm on GAPS diet, so I don't get any cheating room!
Been eating this way since about April, it's brought about some very significant changes - 30 lb weight loss, reuction of crippling fatigue, no longer retaining water, no more tingling and numb limbs, no more eczema, no more hair loss, digestion improved, MOOD improved
Still working on- my awful terrible headaches and more energy!
Lots of healing left to do so I need food/meal ideas to get me through!
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FairyRae, I entered the iron chef contest at MDA too, so fun! I realy enjoyed making my recipes, I did 4. THree of them were "sweet" with a touch of honey, so I felt a little off last week with all the sampling and testing. Usually sweets are just a weekend treat. I was bummed not to win the vitamix as well! But I agree, the winning entry looked delicious! I'll have to try it!

I caved a bit this weekend and had ice cream a few times. It was good ice cream with real ingredients, but still a bit too much sugar for my body. This morning I started out good with bacon and eggs but then I caved again and had a small wild berry smoothy at McD's while waiting for my car to be serviced! Ahhhhhh, I think my body's craving carbs! So tonight I have pork chops in the crock pot and I think I'll cook up some cabbage and cut up some raw veggies to go along side. I've gotta get back on track!
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Kate, I'm wanting to do GAPS as well, it's just about nearly impossible here though. I live with 7 other people and none of them are GAPS. Well, none of them are willing to eat GAPS although I strongly suspect it would benefit some of them. I'm doing as many GAPS friendly things as I can. Please do share what meals you really like.

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Oye, but I have fallen hard! I was very dedicated to a certain eating plan because of my DD's intolerance, but I have slipped up again and again! I've been eating all sorts of craploa - crackers, bread and granola bars -, I don;t feel like well, and my baby girl has a rash. Hanging head in shame

So, can I come back to the grain free club?
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I'm about to take a cross-country flight with my 16 month old DD next week, to visit my parents and various other family/friends in my hometown. Any primal snack ideas??
I don't know if you still need ideas but check out the blog www.thisprimallife.com she's got great ideas about feeing kids on a trip! Check out her comments too because some of her readers also have great ideas. She just has really great recipes in general. I made her primal carrot cake for DS second b-day and it was a HUGE hit with primal doubters!

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I want to try to keep up here this month! I am still primal. Not sure if anyone remembers but I was going thru a real health crisis a few months back that happened right when I started primal diet. It turned out that I had gotten lyme disease. I thought that I was feeling bad due to dropping grains, but I added them back in for a few weeks and felt so much worse, and dropped them again. I am still on abx and struggling with yeasties, so I am VLCing right now (I think, not really tracking), but basically trying not to eat any sweet fruit or starches. I am pretty sure my energy is much better when vlc, and also I don't get hungry every hour.

If anyone ever has a problem with blood sugar when starting this diet (I did) eating protein every 2 hours, never carbs alone, and eating the protein portion of the meal first really worked for me. I was able to spread out the feeding times after a couple weeks, and now can make it between meals pretty often without even thinking of eating a snack or getting shaky.

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I'm joining! Very strict paleo type here - really I'm on GAPS diet, so I don't get any cheating room!
Been eating this way since about April, it's brought about some very significant changes - 30 lb weight loss, reuction of crippling fatigue, no longer retaining water, no more tingling and numb limbs, no more eczema, no more hair loss, digestion improved, MOOD improved
Still working on- my awful terrible headaches and more energy!
Lots of healing left to do so I need food/meal ideas to get me through!
I guess I can pretty much say I am doing gaps if I can stick to not having sweet potatoes. I am drinking coconut milk though. I eat chicken soup made gaps style for lunch many days. I am not seeing the improvements that you are (and I am somehow actually gaining weight, ugh), but I think this diet is keeping me from being completely non-functional with the lyme, and it can only help me heal faster I figure.


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I'm about to take a cross-country flight with my 16 month old DD next week, to visit my parents and various other family/friends in my hometown. Any primal snack ideas??
We make these coconut flour muffins for all of our roadtrips and sub any fruit for the persimmons and cut the honey down a bit. We've never made the frosting though, I don't think that would travel well.

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I want to try to keep up here this month! I am still primal. Not sure if anyone remembers but I was going thru a real health crisis a few months back that happened right when I started primal diet. It turned out that I had gotten lyme disease. I thought that I was feeling bad due to dropping grains, but I added them back in for a few weeks and felt so much worse, and dropped them again. I am still on abx and struggling with yeasties, so I am VLCing right now (I think, not really tracking), but basically trying not to eat any sweet fruit or starches. I am pretty sure my energy is much better when vlc, and also I don't get hungry every hour.

If anyone ever has a problem with blood sugar when starting this diet (I did) eating protein every 2 hours, never carbs alone, and eating the protein portion of the meal first really worked for me. I was able to spread out the feeding times after a couple weeks, and now can make it between meals pretty often without even thinking of eating a snack or getting shaky.
Had to post just for you I'm so glad to hear you finally found the answer to your problem! I remember it quite well. Sucks thats its Lyme disease though
Lets see, I'm half-a$$ing primal atm. Still working through financial difficulties. I started working and having to deal with being surrounded by crap food(cookies,crackers, crappy chocolate, sugar laden crap, you name we have it) I haven't gained any weight surprisingly, its doing this interesting up-down thing that it has been doing for months now. I got as high as 126 and as low as 120. Always in that range and it cycles. So now my trips to the scale are more entertaining than informative. Haven't been exercising at all. Did 50 proper squats on Saturday and was a little stiff. As hard as I try to get back into being fully primal I just can't do it the food I've got. Coffee is my best friend. And cream. And stevia. Thank god for all three.
Keep on truckin', ladies! Reading this thread really helps keep me motivated

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I've been doing REALLY good until last night when I had 1/2 a gf ice cream sandwich. Honestly though, I don't even feel bad about it. It was yum, yum, yum.

I'm finally losing some weight but I find that I always have to weigh myself in the morning. Some days I'm 140 in the morning, and by evening I'm 147 naked! It's crazy. So now I just weigh in the morning.
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and I was wondering why I was getting any updates...

Hello again everyone! Still here and still trying to stick to grain-free, and now I'm working on trying DF too as I've been feeling a bit in a rut and we are mid-cold season right now. I'm looking for egg recipes as we just got 90 eggs, so I'm going to up to my eyeballs in quiches and eggy dishes.

FR - that recipe looks yummy and yours sounded good too!

Any good suggestions for non-dairy "milk" - I just had a edensoy vanilla milk to go with my coffee and it was... *sigh* a poor subsititue for the real deal. Is almond milk better? I'm nervous about coconut milk as I think the last time I had it, it went bad - very thick, gooey consistency, and a funky smell.

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