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So I stayed at a friends house for a few days and *tried* to stay primal...but we had pasta as a meal one day...

 

Well as you guys know I am pregnant. Let's just say my body rejected the wheat like never before I was sick for a couple of DAYS. I had the runs (TMI sorry) like 10x every day after eating it...Then yesterday I very very stupidly ate a doughnut someone offered me (seriously I know, WTH was I thinking?) I was sick all day long maybe 20 trips to the bathroom...

 

So looks like I am on strict primal this pregnancy!

 

I did try adding some dairy to see if it affected my nursling. I haven't noticed a change in here so far..What do you guys think about dairy? I know it's allowed limited, but IDK I question if it's actually good for us. I added a bit of heavy organic cream for tea/smoothies and added in some cheese.

 

 

 

Good you found this out so early!  Remember that gluten stays in your system for up to 6 weeks, so it's really best to keep it completely out of your diet.


If you tolerated dairy well prior to going Primal, then you will probably be fine during pregnancy.  (Gluten irritates the gut lining which can trigger a dairy intolerance in many folk--so notice how you feel when you eat dairy.)

 

However, when you start nursing your new baby, you may need to avoid dairy if they are having any reactions. 

If you stay strictly gluten-free and keep good gut flora during the rest of your pregnancy, this is less likely to be any issue.   You will be passing on your gut flora to your new baby, so "cheating" on gluten grains is not good for either of you. 


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I am back again, lol! That didn't last long. Oats failed and made me feel so sick.

Since I long to be vegetarian, I have decided to stay primal, but up the veggies alot.

I had soup and black tea for breakfast and it was just nice. I opened the one cookbook that I was avoiding because it was so big. It actually has a ton of amazing grain free recipes. Traditional recipes from Italy, pasta free.
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You long to be vegetarian and you went primal? LOL seems a little backwards winky.gif


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You long to be vegetarian and you went primal? LOL seems a little backwards winky.gif



I'm in the same boat.  I was veg*n for 4 years and loved it, but my body started rebelling.  I think if I were to finally launch into this Primal thing I would be vegetable heavy.


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You long to be vegetarian and you went primal? LOL seems a little backwards winky.gif


I feel absolutely terrible as a vegetarian, but did it for 8 years anyway. I feel the best on primal, but hate eating meat.
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OIC well there is certainly nothing wrong with having a ton of veggies!


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I feel absolutely terrible as a vegetarian, but did it for 8 years anyway. I feel the best on primal, but hate eating meat.


Morally/ethically, I'd like to be vegetarian, but have never lasted longer than a week.  After 4 days or so I felt like I wasn't getting what I needed (I was nursing or pregnant both times I tried the switch). But I do have concerns about animal welfare, and the environment, especially since I've seen the damage that "grass fed" beef does to natural landscapes in the sierra's.  I think there are places where it can be done in harmony with the environment, but its hard to know where everything is coming from, unless you can find a local CSA.....

 

 

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How strictly does everyone follow their Paleo/primal/grain free diet? 80/20? Or more closely?

My husband and I are planning to start the Whole 30 program http://whole9life.com/2011/06/whole-30-v4/ tomorrow. We have already noticed some big improvements the last month of more loosely following this way of eating. But have been indulging in almond meal choc chip cookies and dairy products quite a bit. So we really want to see how our bodies will respond going a good length of time completely grain, legume, dairy, sugar, chocolate and caffeine free.


I've been *mostly* following it for about 3 weeks, but I think I am ready to really take the plunge, and do the 30 day challenge that is starting on "Marks Daily Apple" on monday. I don't think I'll be quite as strict as the guidelines in the whole 30 program (occasional teaspoon of honey in my tea, can't find dark chocolate without soy lecithin, and I've been into pastured butter lately (tho I can't eat milk, and try to keep cheese at a minimum)).  Your program sounds great, and I'm sure you will feel great when you are done!  Lately when I "cheat" and have popcorn or chips, I feel much worse, so it makes it easier to stick with it (I do a food diary, sometimes with everything I eat, and sometimes just highlighting how I feel after eating certain foods, so I can remember.)  In just a few weeks of going grain free my sugar cravings are almost gone, I also lost 2 lbs even though I am 7 months pregnant. (not that I'm trying to loose weight. my midwife says its fine, and will probably stabilize.)

 

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So what do you guys think about this? Someone on a FB group page was saying that a vegan/veg diet was supreme for pregnant mothers especially from our primal ancestors POV. They said meat was a dangerous food for pregnant women (b/c they wouldn't risk hunting).

 

My thoughts would be that the man would be hunting anyways...women were always the gatherers, but certainly the mate would provide meat for his pregnant partner.


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So what do you guys think about this? Someone on a FB group page was saying that a vegan/veg diet was supreme for pregnant mothers especially from our primal ancestors POV. They said meat was a dangerous food for pregnant women (b/c they wouldn't risk hunting).

 

My thoughts would be that the man would be hunting anyways...women were always the gatherers, but certainly the mate would provide meat for his pregnant partner.

 

ROFLMAO!

 

Someone needs to do their research.  You are right on target, sosurreal!
 

 


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I made a great recipe last night. It was dairy free and still had a cheesy flavor. So yummy. I made extra and froze them for later. The recipe originally calls for 1/2 cup parmesan cheese, but the recipe was fine without it.

Spinach Meatballs:

10 oz frozen spinach (I just used fresh I cooked up)
1lb of ground beef
2/3 cup almond flour
1 egg
bunch of fresh herbs like rosemary, marjoram, basil, parsley, oregano (I used dried)
1 garlic clove minced
pinch of nutmeg
pinch of dried crushed hot red pepper

for breading
1 egg
almond flour

puree cooked spinach and drain off excess moisture. Add all ingredients together. Roll into 1 or 1 1/2 inch balls. Then roll into egg and then more almond flour. Place on baking sheet and bake in 350 oven for 20-25 minutes.

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So what do you guys think about this? Someone on a FB group page was saying that a vegan/veg diet was supreme for pregnant mothers especially from our primal ancestors POV. They said meat was a dangerous food for pregnant women (b/c they wouldn't risk hunting).

 

My thoughts would be that the man would be hunting anyways...women were always the gatherers, but certainly the mate would provide meat for his pregnant partner.



Yeah, what lovestolearn said. Someone on the FB page was promoting a vegan/veg diet, that's all.


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People were eating it up like candy LOL I was like ummm...not me! A veg diet "gets rid of morning sickness"...yeah OK. I haven't had morning sickness except when I eat any wheat whatsoever.

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Yea whoever that was on FB didn't do their research.  The 2nd time around I did have morning sickness, but what made it go away was raw milk, raw egg yolk and molasses all together.  YUM!  I wonder if I got pregnant again, not eating grains would make sure that there was no morning sickness....how intriguing....

BTW I don't have thyroid stuff as of yet.  I was however diagnosed with adrenal fatigue...the preceptor to thyroid things (which is a tendency in my family).  So obviously gf but I am mostly primal now.  Not quite 100% yet.  Reading the Primal Blueprint currently.  I find it to be fascinating.  I will say however, that any um, er, bathroom issues that I had previously are gone!  Completely!  woot woot.  I am also beginning to feel more normal.  Taking some siberian ginseng, digestive enzymes, extra vit d and of course natural probiotics (like in very very fermented kombucha tea), oh yes I will also be taking nettle tea once it arrives in the mail.

I am interested to see if I cut out all grains if I would feel even better.....

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 can't find dark chocolate without soy lecithin

Lindt 85% and 99% don't contain soy lecithin, and are widely available.

 

Alternatively, mix cocoa powder and coconut oil (or another oil with a mild or pleasant flavor that will solidify in the fridge - I've used clarified butter with success, too), plus any sweetener or other additive (vanilla extract, nuts, fruit, bacon...) you want, and throw it in the fridge for 10 minutes. I use a 50/50 mix of cocoa and oil, but you can adjust that to meet your tastes.

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Bacon, ew, really? lol.gif Blech, bacon and chocolate.

 

Cocoa powder, coconut oil, any kind of nuts, stevia, optional shredded unsweetened coconut. Put on pan with a lip, with waxed paper, in the freezer. Break into pieces  = Cocoa Crack yummy.gif


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Cocoa crack sounds awesome! It took me about 5 days into my whole 30 program and no chocolate before the massive craving went away. It was all that was running through my mind the first few evenings! But yesterday at a family birthday party I was ok sitting around with everyone eating chocolate angel pie...my favorite. Seems to really be working to be super strict and cut out all the "vices" for awhile. Amazing!

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Cocoa crack sounds awesome! It took me about 5 days into my whole 30 program and no chocolate before the massive craving went away. It was all that was running through my mind the first few evenings! But yesterday at a family birthday party I was ok sitting around with everyone eating chocolate angel pie...my favorite. Seems to really be working to be super strict and cut out all the "vices" for awhile. Amazing!

 

I know, right? Oh, cocoa crack, I just put the coconut oil in the microwave, in a measuring cup, and then add the other things. Voila! Easy-peasy-lemon-squeezy orngbiggrin.gif
 

 


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Okay, so what about someone who does not react to grains? I seem to be totally fine when I eat wheat or any grain really. I really like principals of paleo/primal but we do eat a lot of dairy here. Anyway, I seem to slip up at parties when there are particularly delicious looking cookies and cake. Bread is whatever, but the sweets I can't avoid. And I feel fine. I almost envy those who don't feel good after eating those foods because then you have immediate incentive... mine is just gaining weight and hypoglycemia, but those take a while to show and I can never physically link it to the grains... grrr. Advice?

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While I think you should call yourself whatever you want, sis, what part of that wasn't Primal?  Ok, maybe some would poo poo the corn but I think the locally sourced organic, seasonal and fresh aspect of it makes it pretty damn primal.

 

 

Anyhoo, doesn't matter, I think you are being harder on yourself than you need to be is all.  I think the majority of people out there eating "primal" with kids, and with no weight to lose, like you, probably eat very similar to the way you do. :-) 


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I'm probably 80/20.  I will occasionally have corn chips (I'll go months without them, and then eat some with the kids a few times, or eat popcorn, all in one month) I occasionally make soaked, homemade lentils.  On rare, special occasions I might have a gf baked good (this summer in LA with my bro and mama, get gf salted caramel donut at a bakery. it was so good but I felt so awful after eating it. )

On a regular basis I sometimes get into habits that are too carby for me, and too much fruit.  I drink wine or gin/vodka/whiskey very regularly.  these are things that I know if I didn't do I would get fitter quicker, but it's a happy medium for me and I'm at a stable healthy weight that I've maintained for a year, so. *shrug*


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I try to avoid cocoa powder because I'm sensitive to caffeine so I mix coconut butter/manna with liquid vanilla stevia and freeze and it is oh so good wink1.gif


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chocolate and bacon are amazing together.  Srsly, Maia. droool.


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What is coconut butter and what is manna? Do you have a recipe? It sounds good...but I don't know what those things are...sigh.



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I can not even begin to wrap my mind around that...nor the bacon craze that seems to have swept the nation. I love bacon, but really? Maple bacon ice cream? Um...no. Blech! LOL! If you served it to me, I would try it, because I'm adventurous that way, and polite, too, but I won't likely ever make something myself out of it. I have yet to try chocolate and hot things (like peppers).

 


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LOL! Yes... i wish I had me some of that!

 

 

Also, how can I be sure this is the best diet, when  feel the same? Anyone else have this?

 

P.S-Bacon and chocolate are amazing together! Salty sweet goodness!

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Okay, so what about someone who does not react to grains? I seem to be totally fine when I eat wheat or any grain really. I really like principals of paleo/primal but we do eat a lot of dairy here. Anyway, I seem to slip up at parties when there are particularly delicious looking cookies and cake. Bread is whatever, but the sweets I can't avoid. And I feel fine. I almost envy those who don't feel good after eating those foods because then you have immediate incentive... mine is just gaining weight and hypoglycemia, but those take a while to show and I can never physically link it to the grains... grrr. Advice?


i am the exact same way! i love the primal idea but other than a little bloating (that goes away a few hours after a meal), grains don't really make feel that horrible. but i need to lose my extra weight and i do feel good when eating primal. will power i am seriously lacking!

 


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My sister was a very healthy/happy vegan- until she got pregnant.  She had morning sickness really bad, and almost immediately started eating dairy and occasionally fish.  I'm proud of her for listening to her body.

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Down 9lbs from Monday thumb.gif It appears that I now know how to TAKE weight off. If I can just figure out how to KEEP it off!

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i am the exact same way! i love the primal idea but other than a little bloating (that goes away a few hours after a meal), grains don't really make feel that horrible. but i need to lose my extra weight and i do feel good when eating primal. will power i am seriously lacking!

 

 

I think with grains, and their effects, we need to take a longer term point of view. They are not - in most people - going to have an immediate effect on how we feel. What they CAN effect is how our bodies function and how we feel mentally. And this is where keeping a food/symptom log can be helpful. After my first big cheat (grain-wise) I spent an entire day in a brain fog - my thinking was slow, I wanted to just lay on the couch all day, I even had trouble reading to my son at night because I felt so sleepy. If I hadn't been paying attention, I would have chalked it up to something else - the weather, the travel we'd just completed...but I feel fairly certain it was the grains.

 

Also, there is are some who believe grains in general, and wheat in particular, effect our total systems. There is a book that just came out called "Wheat Belly", written by a clinical cardiologist. He has seen over and over again in his practice that heart patients who cut wheat have dramatic improvements in their blood work.

 

I really do think it takes a long time to notice an effect or lack of one with some food stuffs. I really like Robb Wolf's philosophy of trying it STRICTLY for 30 days and evaluate how you look, feel, and perform. Not everything about Paleo is about the immediate effects of foods. In fact, IMO, it's mostly about the long term effects.
 

 


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