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Trying to find the best milk I can buy in a regular retail store. I don't really have the time or energy to fully investigate the best source for raw milk right now, and since I haven't been drinking it recently, I'm a little nervous about going that route anyhow- as I am 11w pregnant.

Anyhow, I've done a lot of bottle reading and I feel like Kalona SuperNatural is a good choice.... It claims "grass fed", is low temp pastuerized (145deg) and not homogenized. I picked some up at Whole Foods a few days ago, and my kids go wild for it! They are not usually big milk drinkers (partly because I hadn't offered it a lot as it gives them both some horrible stinky poo greensad.gif well, at least conventional milk did) but wow, it's nearly half gone already (and no super stinkers yet that I've noticed)

I was wondering what others thought of this brand. I feel like it tastes really good and doesn't seem to be causing bathroom issues with the littles, so that can't be bad smile.gif I am just curious as to the grass fed claims and what that means in the dairy industry. I know that beef can be called grass fed ans still have eaten grain for the last several months of life, so was curious on how that worked in dairy.

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I've actually been to Kalona several times, lovely area. I think that the Supernatural Milk is a great choice if you aren't drinking raw. I've bought a few different Kalona milks over the years- is that one vat pasteurized? Personally I don't have a problem with vat pasteurization (in fact I think it makes the milk taste better) but some people don't like that it's kept hot for so long.

I don't like the taste of Kalona yogurt though. I think the flavor of other brands is better, but just my opinion.

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I know you said you don't have time to do research, but finding a local farm at a farmer's market would be best. There you can talk with the provider and know what is in the milk.

FYI : Neotame, a form of aspartame, can be put over grain for organically fed cows, and doesn't need to be listed. Brand name for the molasses-like substance is Sweetos. Google neotame for more info.
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I looked at the info on their website and it all sounded good, it definitely tastes superior to other store bought milk, and doesn't seem to bother my tummy as much. A couple of my kids loved it but my son won't touch it because he claims he can taste the grass. 

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i would totally buy that for my kids if i didn't have a local raw source (like every time i travel to Florida and have to pet milk, i found a local grass-fed pasteurized brand).  while i like raw, i don't think it's the highest priority, while grass-fed and unhomogenized are totally priority for me!

 

i love that your son can 'taste the grass'!!!  i can taste cow, grass, and my daughter will only drink milk from ONE farm!  she can't be fooled either, if it's now raw grass-fed jersey from our one farm, it's not going to be drunk by her.  but she did some of the grass-fed jersey in Florida but only when sweetened w/ a touch of molasses.


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I forgot to point out that it can be labeled 'grass fed' even if it is 'grain finished', and might be fed Sweetos.
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We can now buy grass fed milk seasonally from Whole Foods (Organic Valley) and I have to say my kids really love the taste of it and I am starting to enjoy "milky things" much more than in the past. 

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I'm surprised by the apparent indifference to Neotame.
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pek64, I'm looking back to my original question as to what can be called grass-fed.... and I think you started to answer it but Im not 100% clear. Are you stating that a company can call their milk grass fed and feed grain as well? (regardless of what it is coated/tainted with)  


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pek64, I found this, in regard to the sweetos stuff.. I am kinda skeptical of Mercola as he always feels like he is selling me something, but- scroll down

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/03/28/neotame-more-toxic-than-aspartame.aspx

 

 

The Cornucopia Institute wrote a rebuttal to this internet rumor last year, statingvi:

“Organic foods cannot contain synthetic additives, unless these additives have been petitioned and approved to appear on the National List of Approved and Prohibited Substances (7 CFR 205.605). Emily Brown Rosen, Standards Specialist at the USDA’s National Organic Program, writes about neotame: “For organic food, all additives must appear on the National List.” Neotame has never been petitioned or approved for inclusion on the National List, and therefore cannot legally be added to organic foods.

We see no evidence, and see no reason to suspect, that any organic certifying agents would allow organic food manufacturers to violate the federal standards by adding this synthetic sweetener.

Moreover, as a direct food additive, neotame must be listed on the ingredients label, contrary to suggestions that this could be added to food in a stealth-like manner (21 CFR 101.100). We have not seen any evidence to suggest that neotame is being added covertly to organic foods. Not only would organic manufacturers be breaking the law by adding this synthetic sweetener to organic foods, they would also be breaking the law by not including Neotame on the ingredient label.”

 

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We are a raw milk family, however, my DS loves the Kalona chocolate milk. He drinks it after soccer practice and games as it is more convenient than making our own. It is a little too sweet, so I add a some raw milk to it to dilute it.


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Kalona was known as Farmer's Creamery a few years ago. Their whole milk is probably the next best thing one can buy if raw isn't available. But there is still so much important stuff lost in the vat/low temp pasteurization which is why I strive for raw.

If you're comfortable with it and feel good about it then perhaps you already have your answer. :) It says a lot that your children don't show signs of digestive issues as they had with the other milks.

Regarding digestive issues, goat milk is known to be easier to digest than cow's milk.


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Just an FYI on Farmers' All Natural Creamery, now labeled "Kalona Super Natural" milk/dairy products. I can guaranty it is the highest quality, publicly offered nationwide, organic dairy product line to be had.

 

I know the founder personally and his sole focus was to create the safest, most natural product to be made. He had no financial purpose to start the plant and sell the product. In actuality the local Amish came to him requesting he build an organic dairy plant as they were unable to sell their organic milk because the only organic buyers at the time required sales on Sunday, which they could not comply with.  So the concept was born. He spent much time trying to identify the most wholesome products he could make for public consumption. He didn't concern himself with cost, but rather the highest quality, knowing that there were those out there who considered quality a prime concern.

 

You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, as the saying goes and the same goes for Farmers' All Natural Creamery milk. Since the plant was built to help the local Amish families, the Creamery sought to give back as much money to the producer as possible and initiated an incentive program, the higher quality milk the producer delivered, the higher premium they were paid. That program generated some of the best milk produced (before processing) there is on the market and the rest is now history.

 

The plant is run by down-to-earth local folks and not some corporate-world profit-driven conglomerate.  There is often mention about the Creamery's chocolate milk.  The founder often chuckles about the months he spent at home in his kitchen formulating that milk.  He tells how he would study and research and search the world for great ingredients, then get some in and start mixing. when he's finish a new recipe, he'd take it over to the creamery and have to whole plant taste it and listen for comments.  The day he knew he found that special recipe was the day he took over the new sampling and everyone kept trying glass after glass....  A lot of athletes use the chocolate milk as a protein fortifier

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