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#1 of 16 Old 01-21-2008, 11:58 AM - Thread Starter
 
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My 3 yo ds wants his bacon raw! (He's eating some as I type. Now, I eat raw meat, eggs, dairy... and so does he (except for the meat which he won't eat cooked or raw unless I hide it in things... or it's bacon), so I do not fear raw food. And the bacon is from pastured heirloom pigs from a family farm and is nitrate-free. AND, I think if he's craving it raw, there is a reason. Still, I don't know how I feel about him eating this. Does the curing process kill parasites? I've been getting over my fear of parasites lately, but the dangers of pork and trichinosis (sp?) are deeply ingrained. It even seems that the primal diet people don't eat pork, and I know they wouldn't eat bacon because it's salted. Does trich live in the fat or the muscle? I suppose I could just let him eat the fat part of the bacon raw if it's in the muscle (which I suspect). It's 90% fat anyway. I always read about parents freaking out about their toddlers eating a stick of butter, and think what's the big deal? Their bodies must need it. I try to trust my ds's instincts when it comes to natural foods and let him self-regulate, but this freaks me out a little. Any thoughts?
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I'd at least learn more b4 letting him eat it - due to parasites in pigs. I think pork is diff than other meat - it wasn't included in the clean meat in the OT or the Maker's Diet which follows that. Maybe he can get what he is craving from something else? (like people who crave chalk shouldn't necessarily eat it) but then I don't eat any meat raw so....
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Has the bacon been frozen? I let my son eat raw store bacon if it has been frozen : I let my son eat raw pork breakfast sausage raised and processed personally by my neighbor even if it hasn't been frozen.

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It has. It arrived frozen in the mail. I'm not sure if it was frozen at a low enough temp. to kill trichinosis, though. I did a little research... it didn't really make me feel MUCH better, but it seems that the cysts are in the muscle meat, so if he ask for it raw, I can just peel off the fat and give THAT to him. It's nice to know that I'm not the ONLY mama to have let their dc eat raw bacon!
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Bacon's always smoked, isn't it? If I'm correct in that, then it's not raw. The smoker is too high a temp.
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Bacon can be either cold smoked or hot smoked. It's supposed to be kept below a certain temp (which I don't recall at the moment) or the fat will start to render and drip away during the smoking process. So, it's not technically cooked, but maybe some bacon gets to a high enough temp while being smoked to kill parasites. The salting might be a factor, too.

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I'm all for eating raw beef and beef liver but I had some health problems that I am almost certain were from pork. One was a parasite. I had a pork roast drip out in my refrigerator (left it in too long too defrost). Personally, I'm leary of pork in general and raw pork in particular.
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my brotherinlaw had pork from a family ranch and he helped prepare the meat. he was nine and ever since has had severe seizures. they think that it was a parasite that aattacked his brain. sorry, but i wouldn't do it with my kids.
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trich is supposedly only a problem with conv pork. as far as pork being 'unclean', there's more politics to it than the meat actually being unclean. i believe people have eaten wild boar for a long, long time. and in fact it was a favored meat (which is why it became a taboo food when environmental changes made it difficult to raise a lot of pigs).
as for eating it raw, i have no clue since i don't eat raw meat.
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the parasite that my BIL is suspected to have is some kind of worm, i believe, not trich.
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My first step would be to find out from the folks who raised the pig whether or not they wormed the pig at any point.

Not sure I'd mention WHY, per se, but that's what springs to mind for me.
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A man in my city contracted a worm from undercooked pork. Said worm was about 12 inches long and living in his brain. They showed an image of it while it was still in his brain on the news. I wasn't inclined to eat raw pork of any sort before that, but seeing that worm in that man's brain definitely sealed the deal.
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A man in my city contracted a worm from undercooked pork. Said worm was about 12 inches long and living in his brain. They showed an image of it while it was still in his brain on the news. I wasn't inclined to eat raw pork of any sort before that, but seeing that worm in that man's brain definitely sealed the deal.

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My mother is an pediatric RN (nurse for 38 years now) and have seen and treated children with worms in their brains, mostly from undercooked pork. It’s more common with children from Mexico, but still not a risk I am willing to take.
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I wonder what the symptoms are for a worm in the brain. That's so highly disgusting.

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A person can have them for years and be symptom free. Most of the kids according to my mother, she saw went in because they were having seizures and perhaps less alarming symptoms.
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