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I tried to post a question on this last night but somehow the post got deleted so I'll try again...

Can you get the same nutritional benefits from fresh young coconut flesh and water as you can from coconut oil or is there something extra special about coconut oil? If both were available to you, which would you prefer?
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I make coconut cream from fresh coconut meat and that is my preference for eating it in smoothies and raw cream custards etc. I use coconut oil as a substitute when I don't have raw coconut cream. I used coconut oil in cooking for the children.

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I use coconut oil for cooking/baking but have decided that I'm going to use coconut meat blended with water to make coconut milk, is that what you mean? I can't find organic coconut milk tha's not in a can & I don't feel comfortable using canned foods. AFAIK, it would be nearly impossible for someone to make coconut oil in their home...

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I use coconut oil for cooking/baking but have decided that I'm going to use coconut meat blended with water to make coconut milk, is that what you mean? I can't find organic coconut milk tha's not in a can & I don't feel comfortable using canned foods. AFAIK, it would be nearly impossible for someone to make coconut oil in their home...
No, I make coconut "cream". I put the meat through the juicer -- you need a good juice like a green star -- it comes out runny but will harden in the fridge.

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No, I make coconut "cream". I put the meat through the juicer -- you need a good juice like a green star -- it comes out runny but will harden in the fridge.
That's interesting. I have used my VitaMix blender for coconut milk, smoothies, creams, custards, even cupcake icing (flesh & water w/ a little vanilla and agave nectar), depending on the flesh to water ratio but had not thought to use my juicer.

It sounds like coconut oil is a good back up when you can't get the fresh stuff. It also sounds like coconut oil has certain applications that maybe too hard to do with fresh, like baking. In baking, how do you use it? To replace butter?

But, I guess my original question was about comparing nutritional value. I'm thinking fresh is better. Yes?
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Fresh young coconut does not have much in the way of fat. Mature coconut flesh is high in the coconut oils, and I use fresh coconut flesh to make my own coconut milk. Yum!
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No, I make coconut "cream". I put the meat through the juicer -- you need a good juice like a green star -- it comes out runny but will harden in the fridge.
I should have quoted, I was responding to the OP.

What I was trying to say is, I use each of these for entirely different purposes - coconut oil works for cooking & coconut milk (or cream - so delicious) for eating plain or with porridge or for dessert-y type dishes - curries too. The two aren't always interchangable, coconut oil would never work in a curry, kwim?

As far as nutrients, coconut oil, if you get a raw/virgin oil of good quality, has a lot of lauric acid & other nutrients. COconut milk & cream also have these nutrients & I don't know if they'd be more concentrated in one or the other. I like that coconut oil keeps a lot longer, 2 years as opposed to a few days for fresh coconut milk/cream.

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Coconut cream is also good for piƱa coladas.

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If you make your coconut cream with your juicer, do you use fresh coconut? What kind? Where do you get them? How much meat/cream can you get from 1 coconut? I have done this before with a young thai coconut, but the amount of cream & water I got was not very much in respect to the amount of time it took to open the coconut and how much the coconut was. Also, I can rarely find the young thai coconuts.

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If you make your coconut cream with your juicer, do you use fresh coconut? What kind? Where do you get them? How much meat/cream can you get from 1 coconut? I have done this before with a young thai coconut, but the amount of cream & water I got was not very much in respect to the amount of time it took to open the coconut and how much the coconut was. Also, I can rarely find the young thai coconuts.

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I get regular fresh, not young Thai coconuts (you get very little cream from the young coconuts), organic whenever possible. I guess I get at least 8 oz, maybe 10 oz, from a coconut, but the key is the coconut needs to be warm, so to do that I immerse the meat in warm water, then dry well before I juice. Opening coconuts is a PITB, but with the right tools it isn't that bad.

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