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#1 of 4 Old 04-21-2008, 08:46 AM - Thread Starter
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About two weeks ago I cut out almost all gluten out of my diet. I kept oats but thats it. I have noticed that I feel GREAT!!! Last night I had some wheat and man did I feel like crap. I slept awfully and I had horrible gas and pains in my tummy. I pulled out my Nourishing Traditions book and I have decided to put some of the ideas to use. I started some sourdough last night because I want to see if I can handle soaked or fermented grains. I have a question about dairy. I live in Ontario where raw milk is illegal. So my first question is: Is it ok to use pasteurized whole milk for cooking and baking? I have access to whole un homogenized yogurt. Is it ok to eat this? My last question is about my 18 month old daughter. She is adopted from Ethiopia and currently on soy milk. (she did get donated breastmilk until she was over 1 year, but I no longer have access to it). Should I switch her to rice milk? It's low in fat and protien so I am worried about that. She only drinks two bottles per day when she is going for her nap and when she is going to bed at night. The rest of the time she gets water in a cup.

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some people can't handle gluten, or they only can after a long gut healing, so don't be surprised if your body isn't ready for "properly handled grains" yet. I personally wouldn't use pasteurized milk for baking because of the synthetic vitamins added to it. When I didn't have a source of real milk I used whole yogurt diluted with water for cooking, or drinking. I would get your baby off of soy milk as soon as possible. It is very high in hormones and several other things that I wouldn't want anyone to drink, especially a baby. Rice milk isn't worth buying in my opinion, it is just made of synthetic vitamins and sugar. It is not good for children. I would give her the yogurt diluted with some water to make it liquid. That is definitely the best option that you seem to have. Does that yogurt have additives in it, or is it just cultured milk? If she is thrown off by the sour flavor, you could try a little maple syrup or honey in it to sweeten it up a little, since she is over a year.
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Your body may need a break from grains altogether, although you could certainly try soaked grains and see if you feel any better.

Given that we live in Canada, I would say that whole milk, even when past., is decent. If I lived in the states I would feel differently given the state of their milk supply. Raw milk isn't legal where I am either although I do manage to find it . .. perhaps ON is different, though.

I would say avoid rice milk and soy milk. Is your daughter able to tolerate dairy? Why are you using soy? Have you tried goat milk? It is naturally homo. so there isn't the same concern with it as with homo cow's milk. It is also easier to digest.

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ITA with the above posters about maybe taking a break from grains. When we went gluten free, it made a big difference, but when we went grain free altogether, it was amazing. Two years later, I can tolerate small amounts of gf grains, but still no gluten of any kind--and we've been doing alot of gut healing work during that time.

I'm also really against the soy milk. Between the phytic acid (which inhibits mineral absorbption in the gut), the phytoestrogens (which act like estrogen in the system), and all the other crap that goes into the "milk," I think it's pretty toxic. Unfortified rice milk has fewer drawbacks from that perspective, but it's nutritionally devoid of anything useful to the human body, so why drink it?

There really isn't any reason to have to drink milk if your dd doesn't handle it well. Bone broths and good quality foods can help bridge that gap. We are dairy free due to dd's and my intolerances and I concentrate on getting all of the nutrients you get from milk from other sources--minerals from bone broths, ConcenTrace, vegetables; vitamins A and D from CLO; fats from good quality meat and eggs; cholestrol from liver and good quality egg yolks. There's a recipie for dairy free infant formula in NT that includes many things that you may want to include in your dd's diet in lieu of milk. We went dairy free a few months before dd turned 2 and if she had to drink something from a sippy cup (I had milk supply issues and was dry at the breast by that point), it was chicken or turkey bone broth.

When I have to do an alternative milk, I use hemp milk and/or make my own from soaked almonds, hemp nuts, or sunflower seeds, sometimes even soaked oats. Soak nut or seed or grain of your choice, rinse, add to blender with filtered water, blend, strain. This is not TF friendly, but I keep rice milk on hand for the occasional times when I cook something that needs a milk substitute--though I recognize that the refined sugar added to it is detrimental to us and we're much better off if I make alternative milk myself and add whole food sweetner (bananas, honey, maple syurp, blackstrap molasses).
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