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#1 of 11 Old 10-09-2010, 01:26 PM - Thread Starter
 
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(Cross-posting in Life with a Babe and Nighttime parenting)

I read that usually around 4 months, babies will start to have an earlier bedtime - between 6-8 p.m., but usually on the early end of that. My DS is 4 months 10 days and this still has not happened.

I can GET him to sleep so incredibly easiliy around 6:30 or 7 p.m. - he falls asleep faster (nursing) at this time than any other time of the day. HOWEVER, he always, always, always wakes up after 40 minutes to 1 hour. It was consistently 40 minutes but just shifted to an hour. What's more, if I put him back to sleep when he wakes up rather than just going to bed with him, I'm lucky if it lasts for 10 minutes.

Am I to expect that one day, he will go to sleep at 7 p.m., and just not wake up for several hours? How do I transition this late afternoon/early evening nap into bedtime?

P.S. this happens whether or not I go through a bedtime routine before putting him to sleep.

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When they take less naps the bedtime gets earlier. I can only imagine a 6-7pm bedtime if you're all waking up very early in the morning though, like 6am, which we aren't. Each of mine started going to bed about 8pm when he went down to 1-2 naps at like 10mo, and it was a gradual move from going down from 6:30-8:30ish, then up for an hour then back to bed, to going down later and staying down (except feeds and comforting back to sleep a few times through the night of course). That book sounds silly to generalize, to me - 4months their routines are still changing rapidly IME.
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I have literally no idea. If DD is ever asleep at that time, it's a nap and has been since her sleep sorted out into naps and night sleep (vs newborn sleep).

Have you heard of the 1-2-3 rule? First nap 1 hour after waking, second nap 2 hours after the first, bed 3 hours later?

If that seems to fit with what your baby does, maybe you could try waking him up at a time that makes bedtime work for you?
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Just in this past week, at 5 1/2 months, is my baby going to bed at 7:30. She will wake a couple hours later and I nurse her again. Not sttn yet, but that's ok. I'm happy Noe that she's getting ready for bed earlier. We wake up at 7am.

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my baby is 6 1/2 months and still takes 3 naps during the day.

right around 3 months, we were still keeping him with us at night til he went to bed. he had the same behavior in the evening as the rest of the day, napping, eating, playing. it wasn't til after 10pm that he wouldn't have play time.

but at 3 months, he started sleeping more than 3 hrs at night his first stretch, and not wanting to have awake time between evening "naps earlier and earlier." he also started to get fussy around 7/8 if we weren't settling him down, even if he'd just had a nap. so, we followed his cues... he still likes to get settled starting at 7, and is usually asleep b/n 7:30 and 8.

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Moved from LWAB and merged with thread here as FBNP is the proper forum for this. Thanks!

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My DD frequently takes naps at 7:00, but at 6 months she still goes to bed at about 9:00.

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I've just never got my kids up again when they wake up, so they would go to bed at about 6.30pm (or whenever) and if they woke after that I would stay in the room until they went to sleep again. One important thing is to reeeaaaallly make sure they've sound asleep when you leave the room for the second time. If I got impatient and tried to sneak out too early then guaranteed they would be awake not long after I left.

Also, I have always made sure the bedroom is really dark and that the house is quite quiet so there is less chance of external factors waking them up.

It's complicated.
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I've just never got my kids up again when they wake up, so they would go to bed at about 6.30pm (or whenever) and if they woke after that I would stay in the room until they went to sleep again. One important thing is to reeeaaaallly make sure they've sound asleep when you leave the room for the second time. If I got impatient and tried to sneak out too early then guaranteed they would be awake not long after I left.

Also, I have always made sure the bedroom is really dark and that the house is quite quiet so there is less chance of external factors waking them up.
That's what I have considered doing. I might try having papa go in and sit with DS while he falls back to sleep....that hasn't worked in the past, but we might try it. DS usually wakes up crying and is hard to console, without a boob, anyway.

Thanks to everyone for the helpful responses - keep 'em coming please!

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It depends on the child and their awake/sleep style. None of mine had an early bedtime (8Pm) until they were school age. They all had a late afternoon/early evening brief nap around dinner time at your lo's age. Actually bedtime then was around 9-10 pm. With waking up between 2 and 5 am for nursing. Then back to sleep until 7-8 am. Angela only had one nap during the day. It started out around 10 am and went until 3 pm. And got progressively later in the morning until she was napping 1-3 in the afternoon around 2-3 yo. Dylan gave up that late afternoon nap around 12-18 months but didn't start going to bed at 8 pm until he started Kindergarten at age 5.5. But he didn't wake up until 8 am. IN fact, 10 pm to 8 am is still his prefered sleep schedule and he's 12.

Here are some ideas as to what a 4 mo schedule/routine looks like: http://www.flickr.com/photos/isew/537354549/

And here's what they can look like at 5-6 months: http://www.flickr.com/photos/isew/537354549/

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My guy had an 8 pm bedtime until almost a year. He dropped down to 1 nap and now he usually goes down between 630-7. Unless i let him take an afternoon nap like he did today.

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