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I just finished a preview chapter of this book that is not yet out:

Emotional Intensity in Gifted Students


And I can't wait to read the list! I know a lot of people on this board have expressed concern about the issues discussed in this book, and this might be really helpful! I want to read the rest, now!

You can download the preview chapter here.

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Thank you for sharing this. I am definitely going to read this book.

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Thank you for sharing this. I am definitely going to read this book.
Yes, it has been awhile since a book like this has appeared it strike really close to home. And I'm glad to see this book coming out now, at the beginning of the school year, and not at the end!

I also like that it seems to be addressed to both parents and educators.

It's like a riff on misdiagnosis, written by a school psychologist, with work sheets and stuff. Anxiety/depression are discussed and examined.

I have to say I saw my son in one of the examples.

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Yes, I'll be getting this one, as well as the prufrock press book due out on nov01 on 2E. The Eides also have a dyslexia book coming out soon, and while we haven't established whether DS has dyslexia, his test scatter looks like it and I'll read anything Eides and love to support their work. <holy run on>

I've been looking for some new reading .

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Yes, I'll be getting this one, as well as the prufrock press book due out on nov01 on 2E. The Eides also have a dyslexia book coming out soon, and while we haven't established whether DS has dyslexia, his test scatter looks like it and I'll read anything Eides and love to support their work. <holy run on>

I've been looking for some new reading .
Me too! And I love that this author is a school psych, so she can speak the language that the school folks speak. I love Dr. James Webb's books, but they are often a bit on the clinical side, and it is sometimes hard to make the leap to the world of schools.

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I'm looking forward to reading this... I recognized so many students in the composite cases, and I do wonder about DD and her emotions lately. It looks really well-written and interesting!
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thanks, this is very timely. I'd just checked out a very very disappointing book from the library called "The social and emotional lives of gifted children" that I stopped reading 1/2 way through because it told me absolutely nothing that I didn't know already.

Dd is definitely emotionally intense and I'm looking forward to this book!

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We have emotional intensity at our house, too -- I think we need this!
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thanks, this is very timely. I'd just checked out a very very disappointing book from the library called "The social and emotional lives of gifted children" that I stopped reading 1/2 way through because it told me absolutely nothing that I didn't know already.

Dd is definitely emotionally intense and I'm looking forward to this book!
Yeah, that one's not so great. I find there's a lot of high level, introductory books. When I order the intensity book, I'm also going to order:

http://www.amazon.com/Light-Your-Chi...5093775&sr=1-1

Anyone familiar with Renzulli?
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Renzulli, whose model for the education of gifted children has been widely adopted, presents a program for parents to identify and foster their school-aged children's interests and abilities. Inspired in no small part by education pioneers John Dewey and Jean Piaget, he tells parents how to help their children acquire new skills and interests and fully utilize the ones they have
The third section of the book apparently addresses 2E.

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Has anyone gotten this book yet? It looks like the only place I can get it now is from prufrock press directly, and I'm not in the US so it's pricey. Online sellers don't seem to have it in stock.

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It looks like Amazon has it. Would that be cheaper? It says it usually ships in 2-5 weeks.

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It looks like Amazon has it. Would that be cheaper? It says it usually ships in 2-5 weeks.
My suspicion is that prufrock hasn't shipped the books to the book sellers yet, and that amazon will likely get it on the same timeline as other online retailers which I can use more affordably than amazon.com. Plus, I'd have to wait 2-5 weeks (at least), and I'm not so much on the patient side . I think I'm going to call prufrock's 1-800 number on Monday and inquire.

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I've been trying to win the book on the blog tour since I can't just buy it anywhere! Right now prufrock is the only place to get it. According to the author, they do ship *really fast*.

But it has been selling really well.

I can't wait to read it, frankly!

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I've been trying to win the book on the blog tour since I can't just buy it anywhere! Right now prufrock is the only place to get it. According to the author, they do ship *really fast*.

But it has been selling really well.

I can't wait to read it, frankly!
I'd love to read the book as well.

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OP, thank you SO much for posting this! I just sent the links to my birth-kid's mom; M is PG with high-functioning ASD and a lot of anxiety, and at almost-13, has been having a really, really hard time emotionally lately.

Thank you!

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OP, thank you SO much for posting this! I just sent the links to my birth-kid's mom; M is PG with high-functioning ASD and a lot of anxiety, and at almost-13, has been having a really, really hard time emotionally lately.

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Wow! I truly believe that I was supposed to check this website at this time just to see that this book exists! Thank you, thank you for posting this. It is such a huge challenge to raise a gifted child, the emotional intensity can be overwhelming and exhausting. We cannot wait to read this book.

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If you buy from Prufrock Press directly, it's in stock, and if you use the coupon code "HOAGIES" you get 20% off and free shipping. That's cheaper for me than buying it from my usual online venders. I picked up this one, plus:
Parenting Gifted Children: The Authoritative Guide From the National Association for Gifted Children, Oct01, 2010.

http://www.prufrock.com/productdetails.cfm?PC=1513

The author's blog is pretty interesting, and I've been reading some of her blog tour. One of the blogs included one of our former, regular poster's blog in her blog roll, which I thought was pretty cool.

http://christinefonseca.wordpress.com/

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joensally, thank you for sharing the code! I've been trying to win the book on the blog tour. I've enjoyed it as well.

Thank is a really good price with the free shipping and everything! I might just order it today, since I never win anything... hehe.

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If you order it today, you probably will win a copy!

It doesn't look like it would be any cheaper for me to use Amazon so I am thinking about getting it from Prufrock. With the Hoagies code I may be able to get two books! Yeah!

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If you order it today, you probably will win a copy!

It doesn't look like it would be any cheaper for me to use Amazon so I am thinking about getting it from Prufrock. With the Hoagies code I may be able to get two books! Yeah!

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This is awesome! I can't wait...
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Ok, I received it Friday and have read it through.

My .02 is that if you've read a lot of books on gifted and/or emotion coaching, there's not a lot new here. It's a great introductory book (fleeting references to Dabrowski, a lot of talk about introversion/extroversion, annoying repeated references to the nature of being gifted, which is my new pet peeve). I felt the dealing with emotional meltdowns section was ok but not much new there. And her case studies all willingly went to their rooms to be alone and calm down.

IMO, the best part of the book was the last section which dealt with the parent as coach and provided sample exchanges between parent/child and offered alternative dialogue a la How to Talk so Kids Will Listen.

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Ok, I received it Friday and have read it through.

And her case studies all willingly went to their rooms to be alone and calm down. .
A bit OT - but joensally, you made my night with this line! We are about ready to lose our minds here . . . so who addresses this part of emotional meltdowns????

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Ok, I received it Friday and have read it through.

My .02 is that if you've read a lot of books on gifted and/or emotion coaching, there's not a lot new here. It's a great introductory book (fleeting references to Dabrowski, a lot of talk about introversion/extroversion, annoying repeated references to the nature of being gifted, which is my new pet peeve). I felt the dealing with emotional meltdowns section was ok but not much new there. And her case studies all willingly went to their rooms to be alone and calm down.

IMO, the best part of the book was the last section which dealt with the parent as coach and provided sample exchanges between parent/child and offered alternative dialogue a la How to Talk so Kids Will Listen.
oh, pooh bear. so it isn't a magic bullet.

yeah, going willingly to the room to calm down... that happens here maybe rarely.

we're doing well, and so I'm not as desperate for the book.
But parenting books are always kind of a let down for me....

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A bit OT - but joensally, you made my night with this line! We are about ready to lose our minds here . . . so who addresses this part of emotional meltdowns????

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Well, everything I've read pretty much agrees that once they're fully engaged in a meltdown, they've got to just crest the wave as it were. It's all in avoiding getting there. For DD, she gets stuck and cannot be alone at that point, so there's no way she's going to go to her room. If she does go to her room (with the requisite door slam), I know it's not the crest because she'll come find me to connect negatively with to finish it off. Ugh.

We've figured out some strategies that help, but there's no full avoidance of this as it's kind of like a pressure release valve related to intensity, IMO. We try to have lifestyle strategies to reduce the frequency, but sometimes she's overwhelmed by something in her life.

If you're looking for book ideas, here are a few off the top of my head. I found lots of good insights in the following, although no one book answered it all.

The Explosive Child
The Spirited Child
Sleepless in America
Transforming the Difficult Child
Getting to Calm (for tweens/teens - but really good ideas and AP)

Also, reading up on sensory issues, anxiety issues and brain development/neuroplasticity.

Welcome to this "elite" club .

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This is a better review than mine:
http://laughingatchaos.com/2010/10/1...seca/#comments

I think it's a good book. I've just read A LOT of books, kids have seen highly skilled professionals ... at this point (read: this week, possibly just today )I think we've got most of it down other than the magic bullet that cures the intensity (or inability to manage the intensity, more properly).

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This is a better review than mine:
http://laughingatchaos.com/2010/10/1...seca/#comments

I think it's a good book. I've just read A LOT of books, kids have seen highly skilled professionals ... at this point (read: this week, possibly just today )I think we've got most of it down other than the magic bullet that cures the intensity (or inability to manage the intensity, more properly).
I'm thinking it will be something I can give to the school/teachers so they stop wondering what is wrong with my child I'm looking forward to the worksheets.

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