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Hey,

I posted in the "Not Vaccinating" group once before seeing this group.. new to "mothering".  I have a 2 year old, and he is being vaccinated.. but very slowly.  So far he's completed the Hep B series and had a DTap (luckily, since we didn't do them every couple months when he was an infant.. he's good for a couple years before they'll even start recommending it again).

I'm curious what vaccines people have chosen to have their child receive/ not receive.. and why?

I have soooo much mommy guilt when it comes to vaccines.. and just huge mixed feelings.

I think vaccines are nasty, they have nasty stuff in them.. and part of me wants to not give my son any at all--- but I also know if he got something really serious I would feel AWFUL :(.  I love the idea of being able to prevent/protect our children from these diseases.. just wish they could make vaccines with less nasty stuff in them!

Would love info about what others are doing/and what articles/info they read that helped them make their decision!

-Courtney

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We do everything recommended.

I agree the vaccine ingredients sound nasty but it is my (considered and informed) position that there's actually very little to worry about. In most cases the doses are so tiny as to be dwarfed by exposure to the same ingredients from the rest of our environment. And the stuff is all there for a reason.

I think you shoud be confident you are doing the right thing by vaccinating and protecting your child from preventable diseases. smile.gif

Mother of two living in UK. Daughter (2007) born in USA, son (2010) born here. I'm pro natural birth, midwife care, breastfeeding, co-sleeping, baby wearing and a keen advocate of cloth diapering. I'm a full time working research scientist (physical sciences). Vaccines save lives.
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My son has had everything on the schedule except for varicella. He will be getting that in January 6 months later than recommend. I do it this way because after research cost/benefit it was pretty clear to me that the benefits outweighed any risks I could see. Not sure what nasty stuff you are concerned about ,but I personally was reassured when I started researching the "scary" ingredients and looking at what that really meant.
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Would love info about what others are doing/and what articles/info they read that helped them make their decision!

-Courtney

 

I wasn't the least bit worried about vaccines when my children were babies, and we did the recommended vaccine schedule.

 

I changed my mind when my kids all had severe reactions--and their reactions were all different, and to different vaccines, given at different times.

 

I thought such reactions were extremely rare (because that's what I was told) until I found a disturbingly large number of parents whose children had the same reactions.

 

You might read www.14studies.org for another point of view.

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Hey,

I posted in the "Not Vaccinating" group once before seeing this group.. new to "mothering".  I have a 2 year old, and he is being vaccinated.. but very slowly.  So far he's completed the Hep B series and had a DTap (luckily, since we didn't do them every couple months when he was an infant.. he's good for a couple years before they'll even start recommending it again).

I'm curious what vaccines people have chosen to have their child receive/ not receive.. and why?

I have soooo much mommy guilt when it comes to vaccines.. and just huge mixed feelings.

I think vaccines are nasty, they have nasty stuff in them.. and part of me wants to not give my son any at all--- but I also know if he got something really serious I would feel AWFUL :(.  I love the idea of being able to prevent/protect our children from these diseases.. just wish they could make vaccines with less nasty stuff in them!

Would love info about what others are doing/and what articles/info they read that helped them make their decision!

-Courtney

here is a list of things to look over when deciding about vaccines

 

http://vactruth.com/vaccine-inserts/

Here are some questions to answer for yourself in deciding about vaccination:

1. Name of the disease
2. Description of the disease
3. Length of time from initial infection to end of all symptoms
4. Infectious period
5. Normal symptoms of the disease
6. Known serious consequences of the disease
7. Proportion of persons infected developing serious consequences
8. Transmission route of the disease
9. Prevalence of the disease
10. Treatments of the disease and efficacy of those treatments
11. Relevant research about the disease
12. Name of the vaccine
13. Company that makes the vaccine
14. Contents of the vaccine
14A. The significance of whether or not the vaccine is live
15. History of development of the vaccine
16. Known side-effects of the vaccine and rate of incidence of those side-effects
17. Possible side-effects not yet acknowledged by the vaccine maker
18. Relevant research into the vaccine
19. How effective is the vaccine at preventing the disease?
20.What is the vaccine meant to do? (Many vaccines are not meant to prevent infection or transmission).
21.Number of cases reported each year.
22.Number of deaths reported each year from the vaccine and natural disease.

Here are some sources to help you out:

Vaccines: The Risks, The Benefits, The Choices 1/18 DVD, By Sherri J. TENPENNY-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OORHqEedtUY



http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/mmwr_wk.html (download the current issue)

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/pink-chapters.htm

http://vaers.hhs.gov/pdf/PackageInserts.pdf

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7018835240451107552&q

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6351515212287981735&hl=en

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/G/cases&deaths.pdf


WHO GRAPH-http://apps.who.int/immunization_monitoring/en/globalsummary/timeseries/tsincidencepol.htm


Beyond Conformity Resources Page- http://www.beyondconformity.org.nz/resources

Do you have a quick-fire summary?- http://www.beyondconformity.org.nz/questions#

Inside Vaccines- http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/

http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/

http://het.sagepub.com/content/early/2011/05/04/0960327111407644.full.pdf+html
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/G/cases&deaths.pdf

http://vaers.hhs.gov/index

http://www.thinktwice.com/sids.htm

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We're probably going to do the dT. Perhaps MMR by puberty. That's about all we have considered to this point. If they travel to countries with endemic VADs, then we'll evaluate recommended vaccines. Not on our schedule is hep B, flu, pertussis, varicella, HPV. They've also outgrown the necessity for Pc, rota etc. and when DS turns five, he'll be too old for Hib.


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