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Our son who is almost 5 months old has what we believe to be pertussis. It stated about a week ago as a slight cough and a weepy eye. Well as the week went on his cough became worse and during the night it has been horrible. It sounds just like the pertussis cough that we found online. We took him to our Ped dr after a week from the start of symptoms and she ordered a chest xray and swabbed for pertussis. We have not got a result back on the pertussis swab but we did get the xrays back and he already has mild pneumonia. WE are very scared..... They started him on a antibiotic azrithomycin. We have researched online for alternatives to treating the pertussis. I found serveral people mentioning the high dose vitamin C. We have several concerns and questions about this and was hoping someome would be willing to help us with some advise.
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Our son who is almost 5 months old has what we believe to be pertussis. It stated about a week ago as a slight cough and a weepy eye. Well as the week went on his cough became worse and during the night it has been horrible. It sounds just like the pertussis cough that we found online. We took him to our Ped dr after a week from the start of symptoms and she ordered a chest xray and swabbed for pertussis. We have not got a result back on the pertussis swab but we did get the xrays back and he already has mild pneumonia. WE are very scared..... They started him on a antibiotic azrithomycin. We have researched online for alternatives to treating the pertussis. I found serveral people mentioning the high dose vitamin C. We have several concerns and questions about this and was hoping someome would be willing to help us with some advise.

I'm so sorry to hear about your son. WC can be really scary, especially for those under 6 months.

Here's what I found from university of Maryland medical system website

" Complementary and Alternative Therapies
Someone with whooping cough needs antibiotics. Do not use herbs and supplements alone, especially for children. Supplements, herbs, and homeopathy may help you get better faster when used along with conventional medications. Always talk with your doctor if you are using alternative therapies in addition to medication.


"...herbs have been used traditionally to treat coughs and strengthen the immune system. All have side effects and can interact with other medications, so it's crucial to talk to your doctor or your pediatrician before using any of these herbs. Your doctor can help you find out if these herbs would help you or your child, and can help you determine the right dose."

I know vitamin C isn't an herb, but you said you were looking at other possible treatments so I thought I'd add that.

http://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/condition/pertussis

The site has dosage recommendations for different supplements, but ask your doctor first.

I would say that, if your doctor approves, to do vitamin C supplements along with the antibiotics. I would under no circumstances stop the antibiotics, pertussis can be very serious to babies under 6 months.

As the part I posted stated, some herbs can interact with certain medications so it is very important you ask your doctor about any possible reactions and about dosages.

Hope he feels better!

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The high-dose vitamin C protocol is "to bowel tolerance".  I would personally be hesitant to make an already-uncomfortable child more uncomfortable by testing his bowel tolerance.  As already advised, please discuss any complementary therapies with your doctor.


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The high-dose vitamin C protocol is "to bowel tolerance".  I would personally be hesitant to make an already-uncomfortable child more uncomfortable by testing his bowel tolerance.  

 

Bowel tolerance in this case means as much as can be taken without the stools becoming loose. Loose stools from too much sodium ascorbate does not cause discomfort.

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Loose stools from too much sodium ascorbate does not cause discomfort.

Untrue. Source- first hand experience.

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Bowel tolerance in this case means as much as can be taken without the stools becoming loose. Loose stools from too much sodium ascorbate does not cause discomfort.

I would be concerned that such a young baby could easily become dehydrated from diarrhea when already sick.
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I would be concerned that such a young baby could easily become dehydrated from diarrhea when already sick.

 

At the first sign of loose stool, the dose of sodium ascorbate is reduced, and the loose stool goes away.

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Thanks everyone for your thoughts and suggestions.  He seems to be doing ok.  He was confirmed positive for pertussis(whooping cough).  His cough over the last 4 days since he has been on antibiotics seems to be less harsh and violent and less frequently.   He cough is also becoming drier- which I don't know if it is a good or bad sign. We are giving him doses of vitamin C but not mega doses.  It does seem to upset his stomach(no loose stools but discomfort) As far as his pneumonia....  A friend of mine is a respiratory therapist and has stopped by daily to check his lungs.  She has said that they sound clear every time which is a good thing.  The pediatrician also listened to his lungs on Friday and said she could lo longer hear the wheezing.  We have a follow up appt on Thursday this week with the DR. We hope and pray that everything will continue to progress in a positive.  Other that this horrible cough he seems very happy.  He is eating great and sleeping well and doing things normally as he should.  Again I appreciate the thoughts and suggestions. I have read that whooping cough can last up to 3 months.  Would it be crazy to think that this could resolve a lot quicker than that.

 

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So sorry you have to go through this. Must be horrible to see your son in discomfort. I'll keep my fingers crossed it passes quickly.

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Poor baby! Glad to hear he is still eating and sleeping well.

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Just wanted to let everyone know that my son has made a full recovery from his bout of whooping cough.  He came through it with flying colors.  We did supplement anti-biotics with the vitamin C.  So I believe that made a big difference in his recovery.  Thanks for all your suggestions.

 

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