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#31 of 34 Old 09-20-2013, 04:20 PM
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First I wanted to ask if you ever stated whether this doctor is a man - it seems some are calling this ER doc a "he". Did I miss where you said that?  
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Ugh! No questions I guess. Just don't have many ppl IRL who would have this conversation with me. I hate not being sure about my decision.


I think maybe part of why you were approached the way you were is because you're not sure. I think doctors kind of seize on that - for good or for bad.  On the one hand, if they think you aren't sure, maybe their advice can be taken as just trying to inform, yk?  I think I come off as pretty confident to doctors and get very little slack, especially the second go round. Full disclosure, I'm delayed/selective but I did  take DC to the ER for a puncture wound before she had any immunizations and wasn't given a hard time at all. No lecture whatsoever. The only advice I got was to consult my DC's pediatrician if I was concerned. 


If you're still searching, the site I found most informative was the WHO delayed schedule. I just went down the list and weeded out first the things that weren't deadly. Then I went down and weeded out the things that my DC was too old for. At that point, you're dealing with a much less daunting number of vaccinations to research.  


This would be handy info in general. Of course not vaccinating doesn't mean you have to be an experts on vaccines...but I do think it probably helps to know your stuff if you keep having run-ins with doctors. 

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#32 of 34 Old 09-20-2013, 06:32 PM - Thread Starter
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Thanks for all of the replies. I'm on my phone so forgive me if I don't reply to everyone who took the time to write.

Doc was a man. And I may have come off unsure.. But I did so purposefully hoping to avoid a hostile response which I found I was getting when I clearly stated we were no vax and the reason why was because that was what we thought was best. If course that wasn't true but I wanted to give the impression that the decision was made to avoid any follow up conversation. So this time round I was a bitmore honest and said we hadn't come to a decision yet so we were waiting. I guess that did open it up for him to comment, however, our visit was unrelated to VADs so I was unhappy that it was even brought up to begin with.

I've been reading mothering, especially these forums, for over 3 years now so very familiar withe the regulars. I recently started posting but as a single mom (1 and 3 year olds) in a new, second career I truly don't have free time - except in the bathroom. DD still wakes at night and often won't sleep without me so it's tough atm.

I have Dr. Sears' book and have not read it through but what I have read has convinced me that not vaxing has been a good choice. With that said, I fully realize I am not well informed - maybe just more gan the average - and that does not sit well with me. I worry all the time because I am not sure. But atm I would be even more upset to agree to a vax now without feeling fully informed.

A lot to think about and some good ideas from PPs on where to/ how to narrow it down so the research is less daunting.

Thanks again for the discussion and POVs.
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 I simply say we use another dr. as our reg. ped (it's a closed HMO so otherwise they would have access) and that I prefer not to share that information.  Then, they could ask a specific question if it was relevant.  "when was his last tetanus shot?"  or go ahead and say if he  hasn't had a tetanus shot he should get one. 


We selectively vax (and to be perfectly truthful) in an ER situation I wouldn't remember when and which vaxes he has had 100% and I do prefer for my HMO not to have his shot record.  Also, if they are looking a for disease there is a vax for the should go ahead and do the testing, vaccinated or not.  My child who was vaxed for chicken pox-had chicken pox-because they swabbed and cultured, we have proof he had the chicken pox (which fulfills any booster requirements).

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Bottom line is this ER doc radically simplified the issue so much so as to be not in any way correct, there are absolutely studies that show *harm* from vaccines. Maybe not 'more risk than benefit' but some potential for harms have been amply documented for almost every vaccine.

I would consider a random ER Doc wholly unqualified to advise me on long term decisions around immunization, however I do agree that I would not actually lie about our status.
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