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#91 of 112 Old 01-26-2007, 09:54 PM
 
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Ugh... I just found out that in order to get a level 2 ultrasound, I need an OB to send the results to. I told the US place that I'd get a temp OB then and fire him when I get the resuts. They were a little shocked. I have fantastic insurance so I can do or go wherever I want without referrals.

So I have an appt with an OB next week and I'm a little bit freaked out. I don't want any testing except they can look at my pee. I just KNOW they are going to tell me I need testing and I'll have to blow them off. 2 appts with an OB is almost more then I can handle! But at least I'll get to hear a heartbeat or something.
could you get your primary to order the u/s.....this is what i did at 7 weeks because i was in the process of switching OBs and wanted that u/s for my peace of mind
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I really wish my baby would start moving up a storm, but not yet for me. I haven't started to show yet at all, my normal stomach is just hard now. It's so confusing! I wasn't heavy pre-pregnancy, about 10lbs overweight and I just wish this belly would pop already.

Could you guys clear something up for me? My OB(only for emergency purposes but just have a visit every 8 weeks so incase a transfer is necessary they are informed of my history) uses LMP and my MW uses gestation to measure weeks. I'm 17 weeks LMP and 15 weeks gestational. Whats the difference? Preference?
By LMP- "Last Menstrual Period- they start counting the weeks based on the first day of your last period. For me, for example, that was October 8th. So even though technically I wasn't pregnant that week, or the next, by the time I ovulated and the sperm hit the egg, I was "2 weeks pregnant" based on the LMP.

By gestational age, your midwife is using the baby's actual amount of weeks of existance- week one being the week that the fertilized egg started divinding and forming, approximately two weeks after your last menstrual period. Most "development sites" or pregnancy books go by LMP, as that has been how it has been calculated for so long.

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Panthira, if you're going to get a US anyway, why not just rent a doppler to use and then return it? it would cost less than an apt, presumably (25 bucks or so) and you wouldn't have to mess with the OB's office, etc. Just a thought....
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Panthira, if you're going to get a US anyway, why not just rent a doppler to use and then return it? it would cost less than an apt, presumably (25 bucks or so) and you wouldn't have to mess with the OB's office, etc. Just a thought....
My insurance covers everything but a $10 co-pay. I want a level 2 ultrasound because I have a friend who's baby has a serious heart condition and without the US she had while pregnant with him, he would not be alive right now. Also, I was on heavy medication and had several xrays before I found out I was impossibly pregnant.

I don;t have a primary. I don't need one. I can *usually* call a specialist anytime I want without referrals. Not in this case I guess.

Thanks for the advice though.

I really need to figure out how to dodge the test crap OB's put you through. I just want an Level 2 US and that's it.
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you could always go to the ER....
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you could always go to the ER....
For a level 2 US??
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Thanks so much! That really explained everything. Anytime I would hear those terms I would just file them away for later, now I don't feel stupid.
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My insurance covers everything but a $10 co-pay. I want a level 2 ultrasound because I have a friend who's baby has a serious heart condition and without the US she had while pregnant with him, he would not be alive right now. Also, I was on heavy medication and had several xrays before I found out I was impossibly pregnant.

I don;t have a primary. I don't need one. I can *usually* call a specialist anytime I want without referrals. Not in this case I guess.

Thanks for the advice though.

I really need to figure out how to dodge the test crap OB's put you through. I just want an Level 2 US and that's it.
At my ob's office, they do the pee test, weight and then primary visit and then send you to the lab for bloodwork and the 1 hour gtt. If they do it this way, you could just walk out and not tell them you're skipping the lab, they won't know until it's too late. If they want to draw it during the visit though, I'm not sure how you'd avoid it. Maybe you can call and ask how the initial visits are structured, saying you want to know how much time to expect, and ask how/when the bloodwork is done. Just an idea?

My only other thought is to book the apt with the OB, then call for the Level 2 US and use that OB's name. Unless you have to already be estabalished and have the US ordered by the OB, you'd be legit. Since you said your insurance doesn't require referrals to cover the service, it would only be a matter of making sure the US folks don't require it to be ordered by the OB.

Maybe??
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My only other thought is to book the apt with the OB, then call for the Level 2 US and use that OB's name. Unless you have to already be estabalished and have the US ordered by the OB, you'd be legit. Since you said your insurance doesn't require referrals to cover the service, it would only be a matter of making sure the US folks don't require it to be ordered by the OB.

Maybe??
Legally, diagnostic ultrasounds have to be ordered by a referring physician. That is one distinction between fetal photo type places and a true medical ultrasound. They do not generally give the full report to the patient (although most places will give you preliminary results at the time of the exam) The report has to be sent to the referring physician to presumably go over the results with you. The idea is that the test is much more meaningful with your clinical information.

It sounds like a hassel for you, I hope you are ale to work it out. I'm sure you will be able to choose the tests you need. I have never been pressured to do (or not do for that matter) any tests other than the initial bloodowork which I would have done anyway.
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For a level 2 US??
yep....my first level 2 us for DD was done in the ER....it was a big hospital and they wheeled me in to get it! i got pictures and everything!
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It's Jakobi's birthday today! He's 8 now... time sure flies!

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I think we were the last 2 to have not "really" felt movement yet - so Yay for us!
Nope, me. I'm 14w6d and I've felt movement that has made me wonder... but I think it's all just been gas so far.

DH had his hand on my belly as we were waking up this morning and there was a little nudge. He said, "Did you feel that? Was that the baby moving?" Yep, I felt it, too. It was on my left side, where the baby bump usually is. So the location was right. He said, "That would be cool if we both felt the baby move the first time at the same time."

But we agreed it was most likely gas. Especially since he felt it, too - I've never had movement that could be felt externally this early in pg.

Bah!
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DH and I left the house today at 9 to go to a midwife appointment. The appointment was fantastic- the baby was an imp and the midwife had to chase him/her around with the Doppler, and the baby squarely kicked the Doppler as hard as they could! The Birth Center is about an hour away, so we stayed out and had lunch, and went shopping.

We moseyed back home around 2:15 and when we pulled into the drive, I saw water gushing out of the soffits of the house (above the garage). We ran up to the house, and the front walkway was under a good inch of water. We got into the house- nothing. It was dry. But when we opened the laundry room door, it sounded like a fire hose was aimed at the wall.

We opened the door leading to the garage to discover a shooting stream of water from the pipe that was directly above Lola's crate! My sad-eyed little doggy was soaked and shivering and standing in an inch or two of water. I let her out, and she raced by me, raced back, bit me HARD on the hand, and kept racing around. DH turned the water off, and opened the door. I grabbed some towels and we dried Lola off, but it took a while for her to stop shivering.

We now have a mess. With a capital M- MESS. There is water everywhere. And Lola's acting crazy- not aggressive anymore, but she's clearly traumatized. I feel so guilty... :

Positive news- nothing really valuable was damaged, outside of the garage computer, which is still dripping water and I'm not going anywhere near the thing to unplug it until it's dry. (What? You don't have a garage computer?) DH had just last weekend moved all of my school stuff and a box or two of children's books out of the garage and into the house. Also, the floor is concrete, and sloped in such a way that it should all be drained soon. DH and I have been working off and on to clean things up, but it's a huge mess- it's a 2.5 car garage.

And, we have to re- crate-train the dog. And I feel like the worst dog-mom ever for this. To top it off, my abdomen is cramping up a storm from stress maybe?

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Oh, poor dog! I'm glad you didn't lose anything too valuable though.
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Oh Clara! That's awful news!! Your poor puppy. Make sure if you are crampy you rest for a bit, don't want to overdo it sweetie. I hope it all cleans up easily and there isn't any hidden damage. Make sure you give Lola extra snuggles!

I went shopping today and got some maternity clothes.. I am so glad because I had absolutely nothing to wear anymore. I even thought ahead and bought some shorts and summery tops. I don't want to have to spend much more because this is my last!

I wish I was feeling the baby move around more, it's making me nervous. I only seem to feel it on side and then very light flutters on the other. I can't wait to go in for my appointment on Tuesday just to know that everything is ok.

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You get to go on Tuesday?? Oh, I'm jealous. I have to wait until a week from Thursday. AND, this will be my THIRD ob - I'm getting tired of meeting new people all the time, I've got no raport with anyone yet.

If you're fluttery, you're good. I'm fluttery today, and once I realized it wasn't just gas, I was most pleased with myself. Gave me a much-needed lift. Oh yeah, and we got the doppler this week and gave it a try last night. Woooshwoooshwoooshwooosh. PHEW. Back in the box it goes.
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I'm just not fluttery all the time and that makes me nervous. I know it shouldn't and I need to stop comparing pregnancies but it's really really hard not to. I was a lot skinnier with my last and I know I was feeling distinct movements at this point with him. I need to stop being such a spaz! REALLY! I half-wish I had a doppler right now to ease my mind but I just keep telling myself only a few more days.. repeat, repeat.

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Well I finally had a "relaxing" day. My husband did the hard work - he picked up the new dryer and installed it, brought in the entertainment center and hooked everything up and tomorrow he's getting the table/chairs that mom bought us for my birthday. See:

http://chambana.craigslist.org/fur/266729105.html

I did go have lunch with mom, an amazingly good pesto/mozarella/spinach pizza that I actually got to keep this time. AND, I got to lay down for an hour this afternoon while the boys played in the living room. True, I had to get up a few times when my youngest discovered he can turn on the garbage disposal by himself, but overall it was quite nice. I'm even MORE tired tonight than I was yesterday, so I'm off to bed in a few and I hope tomorrow will be equally uneventful. I'm also telling my employer that I'm at my limit this week, and that I can't keep helping out. I'm no good at this - I love what I did there and I want things to keep running smoothly for him, but I just have to stop spreading myself so thin.

Think sleepy thoughts, all!

Oh, Nic, what did you do for J's birthday?
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Bethany~ We didn't do too much hung around for the morning and last night we went out to dinner and let him pick out a movie and a game. (I allow my children to own a Nintendo DS Later this afternoon my aunt came to pick up the older two boys to stay over night. They had cake and stuff which was very nice of them. I think I really needed a break from all of the kids.. although Aidan is still home but he's all about daddy lately. I am glad I had the morning with Jakobi alone.. we snuggled and had some special time. I was thinking 8 yrs ago today we were working on our breastfeeding relationship, he was healing from a broken clavicle (shoulder dystocia) and I was healing from a traumatic birth.. strangely enough his labor was relatively easy though. He was a cranky, high needs baby from day one and definitely helped to develop the mama I am today.. for that I thank him for finding his way into my life. : We had a really great time playing his Nintendogs game together.


I absolutely adore your table set! I am also glad you had a nice relaxing day you deserve it! I am definitely sending sleepy thoughts your way.. I have enough to go around. All that shopping I did today has really tuckered me out but if I go to bed too early I am up around 3 and have issues going back to bed after that. Ahh the fun of crazy sleep schedules. I hope things go smoothly with your employer.

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Nic, I know what you mean about wishing you had a doppler. Last night I had my own spaz-out. I have been feeling the baby move every day now, and especially after meals. But yesterday I remember feeling only 1 kick and that was in the morning time. So by 9 pm I was starting to go into panic mode. And once that hits, there's no getting me out of it. And intellectually I KNEW everything was fine, but I couldn't grasp it. So I did what everyone wants to do. Since I work in a hospital, I called one of the nurses from the childbirth center to see if I could come up and listen with the doppler. She said to come on up, and it did take a little while to find (the little bugger was hiding), but there it was. Oh so perfect. The world slowly came back into focus and I could remember how to breathe again. How does anyone make it through 9 months of this? And this morning I felt movement before getting out of bed.
Today I start week 19. And I've gained a solid 10 pounds. Wow. Yesterday I bought a real pair of maternity pants. Not the low-rise that I had been wearing, but the kind with the soft elastic that goes slightly over your belly. Talk about the most comfortable thing in the world. I think elastic should definitely make a come back for people who aren't pregnant.
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Wow, everyone seems to be feeling fairly regular movement. I feel the very occasional flutter that seems to not be gas, but nothing at all that is distinct (like a kick) or regular. I do think I'm feeling the baby though, and I guess it's earlier than last time (I'm 16 wks today). It's weird, though-- I'm not too worried about it. I feel so much more laidback about this pregnancy than last time. I don't have another appointment until the middle of next week, but I haven't had any freak out moments at all yet!

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Wow, everyone seems to be feeling fairly regular movement. I feel the very occasional flutter that seems to not be gas, but nothing at all that is distinct (like a kick) or regular. I do think I'm feeling the baby though, and I guess it's earlier than last time (I'm 16 wks today). It's weird, though-- I'm not too worried about it. I feel so much more laidback about this pregnancy than last time. I don't have another appointment until the middle of next week, but I haven't had any freak out moments at all yet!
Even though I'm not feeling anything yet identifiable as baby, I'm truly not worried at all. I'm growing, uterus is obviously rising - and it helps to hear HB at prenatals lol. And since I'm due so late in July, it stands to reason that most of the people in this DDC are going to feel regular movement weeks before I do.

When we talked about quickening at my appt on Thursday, my midwife was EXTREMELY reassuring that feeling regular movements before 16 weeks is really not the norm. Sometime within 16-20 weeks very much the range of average.
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