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We're not quite at the preteen stage yet (DD is just about to turn 7) but she got a bag of clothes from an older friend today and in it were two younger training bras. Which of course she thought were "TOTALLY cute"... 

 

So went shopping with said friends mom tonight and we were looking at underwear for her DD and it was right beside the training bras that were for sale. DD doesn't need them yet nor do I think she'll need them for a couple years but I just naturally grabbed at one of the younger "bras" and I was FLOORED to discover it was padded. We're talking like a 20A cup here. For like a 10-14 year old. 

 

So of course I had to go through all of them on the rack and they were ALL padded. Even most of the elastic trainer style ones for the younger crowd that needs something. What 7- 14 year old girl needs a padded training bra?! 

 

Help me out, am I missing something or are these really what are "in"...



*EDITED TO ADD for clarification: I am talking about padding at the bottom of a bra as in a push up style bra. "Padded" regionally for me has always meant some sort of push up or "size enhancing" bra. I have realized that "Padded" for other's is what I would considered just a structured tshirt bra or a slightly thicker lining on the front. I am also talking about the preteen section for younger kids 7/8-13/14 years of age. *

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Apparently it's what is being made. It seems as though every size is padded. My poor dd was a D by the time she was 14 and it's even hard to find those unpadded. Who the heck wants a padded D cup!!
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There are a lot of them around but we've never had trouble finding non-padded bras. DD is an "A" cup and while they are all lined now, there seemed plenty of non-padded choices both in standard and sports bras. We went to a Maiden Form outlet store last month and got her a whole weeks worth of bras, no-padding. Before that, we've had good luck at JC Penny. 


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For some I believe the appeal is to have a little extra at a time when the chest area may seem a bit small compared to their peers. But I remember being a teen who did have plenty of chest and finding lots of bras with padding in my size. When I asked my friends about it they all said that they love a bit of padding to help hide it when they are nipping out. Let's be honest developing breasts are sensitive and do respond to cold, friction, and lots of other things. A young girl whose developing can be a bit uncomfortable with her changing form and want the extra padding to hide the more prominent nipples more than wanting a bigger cup size.


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I've always worn padded bras, since 5th grade. I thought the allure was for your nipples to not show, not for your chest to look bigger. I have DDD's, and if I put one of those thin bras on my nipples poke right through them, plus they have way less support.

 

For training bras, I would think the padding was to make sure that you couldn't see anything, not to enlarge their chest. Also, preteens and teens often have super sensitive nipples (going through puberty, raging hormones- sometimes makes for sensitive nipples). When I was that age, if I didnt have a padded bra on, I couldnt wear anything other than a cotton tshirt because everything else bothered me.


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I've always worn padded bras, since 5th grade. I thought the allure was for your nipples to not show, not for your chest to look bigger.

 

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I always found the lined/padded bras to be much more modest and discreet, rather than provocative.


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While we can find unpadded training bras, DD1 prefers ones with a bit of padding, more then just a thin lining. They feel more comfortable to her. 


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I understand the impulse to freak out at what you assume is more push-up padding--but as others have mentioned, it's more thick lining that is standard for the smooth look under tees.  Breast buds are often bumpy.  Once that stage is passed on to the next nipples can be sensitive and bumpy.  My DD got breast buds just before she turned 8 and now at 10 has actual breasts.  Thank god she has plenty of thick lining options.  As THE first developing kid in her class in 3rd grade (she's going into 5th now) she got teased by non classmates (the kids in her class have been together since 1st so they're pretty accepting/whatever of each other--other kids in the school though is a different story) all the time until we got those (and I resisted because of MY hangups over them being push-ups or something--they are not).

 

If your kid doesn't need coverage, get her a shelf bra or one of those thin fabric sports bra.  You can find those in every target/Fred Meyers/WalMart I've ever walked into.  When your DD is in the position to "nip out" (haha, never heard that phrase) you may find that the thick padding is more comfortable for her because her growing breasts might be sore and/or she's uncomfortable how thin/stretchy fabric on t-shirts ect. looks over hard nipples.
 

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The padded ones offer more support and are a lot more comfortable. There are plenty of both options around here but we go for what is comfortable. I was a little put off by padding until I actually tried a padded bra about five years ago and now I will never go back. My dd tried both and prefers the support the padded bra gives and that is fine with me.
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Interesting! I guess I was missing out on something.

 

I agree completely that the thicker t-shirt style bras are more comfortable and more supportive overall and that would make sense for the elastic trainer styles that had a bit of padding in it as well. I understand all too well how a supportive bra can make a difference. 

 

However many of the ones I was really thinking were out of line were the ones that weren't just a bit thicker wall construction but actually had foam padding in the bottom of the cup in more a "make bigger"/push up style... I can't get on board with that. I wasn't looking at the bras for a 15 year old. This was the section of bras and trainers for the 7-13/14 year olds that were only just starting to get breast buds. And the attention thing gets to me. Isn't it just perpetuating it?

 

I was an early bloomer also at an early age and one of the first in my class (gr 4/5). But the push up style bras weren't a factor until 16/17 and only because I could buy my own, I think an adult or older teen is more than welcome to make that decision. And to me there's a big difference between a thicker walled t shirt bra (which is super comfy) at 10/12 and an actual extra padding at the bottom as a "push up". It really looked to me like they were trying to sell these bras with the extra padding in the bottom to those who didn't need an A cup yet and would be better with a supportive trainer but it's the whole "looking older than you really are factor" in this case, so they pad the A to make it seem like the child has more.

 

Yeah I'm still not feeling this. Glad I have a couple years yet before I need to really start looking around at these.


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Me and my 10-year-old differ in opinion here!  


She's had buds for over a year, and VERY sensitive ones, to boot! The only thing that helps with the nipple sensitivity and the breast "pain" has been the tank style bra because it's more form fitting and pushes *in* therefore giving support.

 

She is most definitely an a-cup now and we have a non-padded 32A that fits nicely, gives her support, and honestly flattens things down a little. Put her in a padded 32A and it looks like she's Dolly Parton!  I am thinking my daughter would rather have her nipples pop out a few times rather than give MORE attention to her falsely larger breasts!  

 

I honestly think the padded bras are more push-up (I, too, have seen all these padded bras in the TWEEN section (talking TRAINING bra section, here! for 8-12yos) and are definitely meant to flatter and not be functional. Thankfully my daughter has some Old Navy half-tank bras that are double lined so that does the job nicely of helping her not "nip out" ... I think a padded bra is waaaaaaaay overkill for a tween. And sending the wrong message, too.

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I do think push-up padding gives more support in general - but I completely understand being freaked out by it in a training bra.  That is a little much...


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Breast buds can be very sensitive -- light padding (not necessarily push-up underwires, but something like this: http://www.jcpenney.com/dotcom/Maidenform%C2%AE%20Seamless%20Shirred%20Crop%20Bra/prod.jump?ppId=1e47872&cmvc=JCP|SearchResults|RICHREL&grView=&eventRootCatId=&currentTabCatId=&regId= (if you look really hard you can see the cups have a little padding)) can provide support and comfort.

 

I'm a 38 F/G so I certainly don't need any extra bulk, but I also prefer lightly padded bras for similar reasons.


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I think this is more in line with what OP is talking about, and to which I was referring:

 

http://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/victoriouus-girls-underwire-bra/10050086?trail=&fromPLP=true&ancestorID=&searchString=&moduleName=&startSearch=&fromSearchBox=&addFacet=

 

You will notice it is in GIRLS.  The whole cup is padded, and this example has an underwire! blush.gif It also has more of a push-up look and feel to it.

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I think this is more in line with what OP is talking about, and to which I was referring:

http://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/victoriouus-girls-underwire-bra/10050086?trail=&fromPLP=true&ancestorID=&searchString=&moduleName=&startSearch=&fromSearchBox=&addFacet=

You will notice it is in GIRLS.  The whole cup is padded, and this example has an underwire! blush.gif  It also has more of a push-up look and feel to it.

I wear a similar type without underwire and it is very comfortable. I don't think any bra is a problem, bras go under the clothes and are really a comfort thing. Nobody knows what kind of bra she wears because it is a nonissue. I think that pushing the idea that a certain choice in underclothing means a certain thing onto children is the real problem. My dd chooses her clothing for comfort and for no other reason and it is very sad to me that adults try to push adult ideas onto that decision. I also think taking an issue with clothing makes it more appealing in the long run.
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I have to wear padded b/c I have pokey nipples.  I assume that's why it's so hard to find unpadded anything.


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I just went shopping with dd (12) for bras this week and got her something similar looking to this. We got size 32A. It is underwire and the whole cup has padding or a thick lining. It does not make her breasts look bigger or push them up at all. It is a bit more supportive than the other bras. Dd found it to be more comfortable.

We also bought a couple more sports bra type style without any wire or lining/padding.

 

I wasn't shocked by anything I saw at that store. Lined, unlined, wire and no wire styles were all available in the girl's clothing section that we went to. The bras had cute patterns or bright colors. None of them were a push up style or seemed too mature. None of the bras with wires and padded/lined cups were smaller than 30AA or 30A. 

 

Shop around more when your dd starts wanting/needing a bra. Other options are out there. Dd's very first bras were all unlined sports bra styles.


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I wear a similar type without underwire and it is very comfortable. I don't think any bra is a problem, bras go under the clothes and are really a comfort thing. Nobody knows what kind of bra she wears because it is a nonissue. I think that pushing the idea that a certain choice in underclothing means a certain thing onto children is the real problem. My dd chooses her clothing for comfort and for no other reason and it is very sad to me that adults try to push adult ideas onto that decision. I also think taking an issue with clothing makes it more appealing in the long run.


For the record, I'm not pushing anything onto my DD.  These are MY thoughts alone and I've never voiced them to DD.

 

She wore a fully padded one and hated it because even though the bra was her size, like I said above, it made her look like Dolly Parton. She didn't like the feel or the look, and it didn't fit her well, either.  She is not "full" enough to be wearing a padded bra - it's quite evident that she's wearing one because she doesn't fill it.  

 

I guess that's kind of my point - a fully padded, underwire bra isn't needed for a first bra. The one that was linked to above from JC Penney is more in line of what I think a 8-12 yr old needing a little padding/support would use. 

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Padded bras actually provide modesty, when breasts are developing and the nipples stick out. They can also be much more comfortable when developing breasts are sensitive. They are there to provide modesty and comfort, not to make breasts look bigger.
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There is a difference between lined and padded. My daughter is 17 y.o. and she likes shopping at Target Junior section for underwear. What I've seen at Target -Junior section-  for the past 6 years is that there are myriad padded pushup bras in A-cup sizes, but there are also lined A-cups that aren't pushups, so don't get them mixed up. 

 

Dd prefers the lined but unpadded type. The interesting thing dd has found is that the lined, non pushup style is much harder to find at Target  There are always pushups in all sizes and colors.  She and I figure it's because girls aren't buying them, girls are buying the regular, non pushups.

 

 

 

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I wear a similar type without underwire and it is very comfortable. I don't think any bra is a problem, bras go under the clothes and are really a comfort thing. Nobody knows what kind of bra she wears because it is a nonissue. I think that pushing the idea that a certain choice in underclothing means a certain thing onto children is the real problem. My dd chooses her clothing for comfort and for no other reason and it is very sad to me that adults try to push adult ideas onto that decision. I also think taking an issue with clothing makes it more appealing in the long run.

 

I so totally agree that it's very sad that adults try to push adult ideas on young girls' bra-wearing decisions. It's very sad -in fact it makes me angry and disgusted- that the multibillion dollar clothing industry sexualizes girls at a younger and younger age.  A person would be naive indeed to 1) think that certain underwear, let's say push-up bras, do not mean certain things, don't have an explicitly adult, sexualizing purpose and 2) to ignore the influence the clothing industries, for example Victoria's Secret, have had on the marketing of girls' underwear, all girls clothing in general.  I think it's fantastic that your dd chooses her clothing for comfort and for no other reason.  My guess is that she's in a minority. Women, all of us, are relentless bombarded with the idea that we're supposed to dress sexy all the time.


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I so totally agree that it's very sad that adults try to push adult ideas on young girls' bra-wearing decisions. It's very sad -in fact it makes me angry and disgusted- that the multibillion dollar clothing industry sexualizes girls at a younger and younger age.  A person would be naive indeed to 1) think that certain underwear, let's say push-up bras, do not mean certain things, don't have an explicitly adult, sexualizing purpose and 2) to ignore the influence the clothing industries, for example Victoria's Secret, have had on the marketing of girls' underwear, all girls clothing in general.

 

Huh. I was at Target the other day and my 6 year old daughter wanted an unlined bralette kind of sports bra thing "just like her counsellors have". (Outdoor camp counsellors/swim instructors). I was having a hard time understanding why they were even selling size small (girl's 6-8) bralettes. I know the quote reasons above did not cross my daughter's mind. I don't think I really though of it either. I just thought it was a completely unneccessary wardrobe item, not a completely inappropriate wardrobe item. Since she is a six 4-6 (XS), it wasn't a real issue now. I hope its not a issue next year! I am going to think of this differently now that we are embarking on the clothing outside the "toddler" sizes.


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They sell a small for girls like my dd. She's over 5', but has an insanely thin build. She's not quite into an A cup, but jiggles without support and is very sensitive. This is a girl wearing full length size 7 pants from the toddler section as shorts in the summer. They don't even come to her knees. She's healthy, just built like a bird. Around her 10th bday, she started running around the house without a top all the time because her shirts rubbed uncomfortably. Target was the only place we could find the little triangle of cloth kind of training bra she's comfortable in, in her size. She wore the smallest one they made, attached on the tightest setting, and it was still a little loose. They're getting a little tight recently and we were just talking about taking her out to get her some of the larger "small" size bras....as well as some sport bra style ones for her to wear at gymnastics. She's been invited to try out for the "pre-team" and that means double the hours each week at the studio. She's mentioned going without or wearing the bras she has are both uncomfortable options when she's being all bendy and flippy.


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There is a difference between lined and padded. My daughter is 17 y.o. and she likes shopping at Target Junior section for underwear. What I've seen at Target -Junior section-  for the past 6 years is that there are myriad padded pushup bras in A-cup sizes, but there are also lined A-cups that aren't pushups, so don't get them mixed up. 

Dd prefers the lined but unpadded type. The interesting thing dd has found is that the lined, non pushup style is much harder to find at Target  There are always pushups in all sizes and colors.  She and I figure it's because girls aren't buying them, girls are buying the regular, non pushups.




I so totally agree that it's very sad that adults try to push adult ideas on young girls' bra-wearing decisions. It's very sad -in fact it makes me angry and disgusted- that the multibillion dollar clothing industry sexualizes girls at a younger and younger age.  A person would be naive indeed to 1) think that certain underwear, let's say push-up bras, do not mean certain things, don't have an explicitly adult, sexualizing purpose and 2) to ignore the influence the clothing industries, for example Victoria's Secret, have had on the marketing of girls' underwear, all girls clothing in general.  I think it's fantastic that your dd chooses her clothing for comfort and for no other reason.  My guess is that she's in a minority. Women, all of us, are relentless bombarded with the idea that we're supposed to dress sexy all the time.

We probably are naive since we don't watch TV and aren't surrounded by corporate influence and are therefore motivated by our likes rather than the underwear the TV characters wear. The only people I see stereotyping are other moms who seem hostile towatds developing bodies as a whole and I truly don't understand the hostility towards an item of clothing. Clothing styles have been cycling since long before corporations began so I think there is more at play with the emotions that lead to stereotyping than that a company makes and advertises clothing people like to buy.
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A previous poster hit the nail on the head: unnecessary. These bras are not exactly "inappropriate" but the thing is, WHY?  

I know and understand that a padded bra can be more comfortable for developing buds, but a fully padded (thick) underwire isn't *necessary* for an 8yo. Lined, or a bit of padding, yes I can understand and it can be necessary.

 

I know the difference between lined and padded. These bras which I'm talking about, which are smaller than 32A, are completely padded - thick padding on the whole entire cup and a bit more padding on the bottom to push up. They're not created to mask nipples but to enhance the breasts. Again, unnecessary for an 8-10-year-old.

Maybe things are a lot different up here in Canada but I know we can not find a regular non-thickly-padded bra for my 10-year-old without having to mail order. That's pretty sad.

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"Padded" is really just lined more. I've needed bras that were heavily lined, and I'm sure would be called "padded" due to the amount of lining necessary to conceal nipples.
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"Padded" is really just lined more. I've needed bras that were heavily lined, and I'm sure would be called "padded" due to the amount of lining necessary to conceal nipples.

Maybe it's a reginal thing but "padded" *here* has always meant "push up" or padding at the bottoms of bra to make you bigger.

A lined cup or thicker lined cup was not what I was talking about, (maybe I should change the title to make it more universal) although it does make sense to me know (thanks previous posters) why a shelf style trainer has a thicker lining. I hadn't thought about the pressure and nipple issue as I never remember mine hurting when they grew. But it's good information for when I get there.

However I still don't agree with the push up type padding I was talking about earlier. I see many on this thread talking about liking it for themselves or their older teens... But the section of store I was in was very much an older child/preteen/very small young teen section... And an 8-13 year old does not need a padded push up bra. An adult or older teen is Much more aware of how to deal with attention either wanted or unwanted. I don't think an 8 year old/10 year old or 12 year old is emotionally equipped enough or mature enough to ignore it. I realize this is a forum for both preteens and teens and that can span a very wide number of ages and maturity levels but the section I was in in the store had only bra style bras with a push up padded bottom. And the sizes were tiny. I'm taking like a 20-something A cup. If one was to go over to the woman's section you would be able to find bras of all types. Lined, unlined, push up padded, boxed bras, underwire, non underwire. But this choice was not there in the younger child's section and where I live this is one of the main places you can buy underthings for preteens. Otherwise it's mail orders or 2.5+ hour drives. Having the choice in the adult section is wonderful! But having no choice but a "padded PUSH UP" style was shocking.

Whether it be TV or movies, magazines or even as a previous poster suggest other students at school or extra circulars, I do believe that a bra meant to enhance and make the breasts bigger (this is the style of bra I am talking about. NOT a lined tshirt style bra...) is a place I can draw a line as a parent without it having anything to do with hostility or judgement. I hope we are able to find something that is of proper support and comfortability and modestness for my daughters when they are in the preteen ages. When they become older teens we'll revisit comfort levels, both physically and emotionally.

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