Originally Posted by moominmamma
I guess I just don't understand the logic of this invasion of privacy. Sure, public safety could be affected by substance use, but aviation is by no means the only situation in which this could happen. If that is the argument for invading privacy with drug testing, then surely by the same logic anyone operating a motor vehicle should be tested.
In the US, drug and alcohol testing extends to:
" safety-sensitive transportation employees in aviation, trucking, railroads, mass transit, pipelines, and other transportation industries." http://www.dot.gov/odapc
As far as drivers of cars, in my state, if you are stopped for drunk driving and refuse to test, then your license in suspended. (you have to sign that you agree to that before you can get a license in my state).
I don't know any one who drug test their children who hasn't already caught their children using drugs.
I find this an odd argument for me to be on. I'm very big on my kids' privacy. I don't check their cell phones or their internet histories. I believe that they have a right to tremendous privacy, and I would only break that in ANY way if I knew or had reason to suspect that they were doing something dangerous, were having mental health problems like suicidal depression, etc. But for me, doing illegal, mind altering substances would fall into that category.
I honestly think that pee is a lot less invasive that reading a kids diary or reading through their conversations with a friend. I know a lot of parents who constantly cyber-snoop on their teens "just in case" when the teens haven't put a toe out of line. I don't, and I don't approve of it. However, if I had reason to believe my child was doing drugs, then I would.
We don't have drug issues in our family. One of my kids' friends grew up watching his parents get stoned, and he hates pot so much it keeps anyone in their social circle from ever mentioning trying it. For them, pot is something really bad parents do.
None the less, I have a friend whose son was murdered over drugs, and I get it when parents take this issues extremely seriously. Yes, lots of kids smoke pot and nothing happens. Some fall deeper and deeper into a world that swallows them whole.
I also think that "i would just talk about it" thing has a line, and if your kid crossed whatever that line is for you, you would do SOMETHING. No loving, involved parent just sits back and watches their child try harder and harder drugs until they are an addict.
One parent I knew sent her son to a wilderness program and then a boarding school to get him far, far away from his friend set and connections. I think that is a lot harsher than testing.