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Any Dads ever have a run-in with cops over your kids?

Are your kids permitted to play outside your condo/apt unharrassed?

Do you get confronted by police officers over anonymous tips that you're negligent as a parent?

My dw and I have recently had some hair raising events with gigantic mutant males in uniform, the most recent yesterday when I was informed we were "under surveillance" becaus eof neighbor complaints that our kids play outdoors. I wasn't aware that playing 10 ft from one's apt door was illegal, it's not in our CC&R's anywhere. Our kids are fairly mellow when they're outside, that's why I let them do it, esp. when I can see them at all times through the window where I work, facing it.

Anyway, how'd you guys handle any encounters? Or is it just me? I attract their ego-mojo or whatever. I'm kinda freaked out.
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We haven't had any run ins w/uniformed folk. Do you live in a small town w/a bored police crew?

We did get a privacy fence in the back so DS is encamped in the back yard but always with one of us. There are too many speeding cars in the front yard. My DS's too young to play alone outside (3.5 yo). How old is your oldest child?
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I've observed the police engage in antagonistic behavior towards the common people my whole life. Almost everyone I talk to about the police say the same thing themselves. I have gotten to the point that I believe they are not really interested in 'protecting and serving' we the people. Instead, the people they are protecting and serving are the upper eschelon of society's ruling class. That's my perspective based on my own experiences with them, and my observations of them interacting with other people, and from talking to others about them.
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DOV, my DW is ultra crunchy and I'm a moderate crunchbar. She has all of these really cool, peace promoting bumper stickers on our car and I noticed that really conservative people get pretty aggressive after reading them. I had one guy shake his head no at me and give me a thumbs down as he aggressively passed us. I thought it was a bit odd and funny at the time, but it really points to a deep and serious rift in our culture.

Anyway, not to get far from your concern, which is very serious. I think people do get harrassed because of how they look or if they have a different thought than the rest of the community.

I would seek out and contact a legal agency. Not hire a lawyer but see if your community has a free legal services outfit and find out what your legal rights are. If not available in your community, perhaps there is a law firm interested in providing pro bono work for you.
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When I studied sociology in college, it was confirmed that image is indeed very important when dealing with police officers, as well as others. Equally important is acting polite, even if treated rudely.

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i haven't had any run-ins with the popo, while my children were with me. thank goodness!
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We had CPS called on us..it was pretty scary, but we had a very nice and understanding social worker.
Perhaps the reason why the police officers are getting calls is from genuine concern about your kids....even if you can see them from your window, that doesn't mean that you will have enough time to react to any given situation should something happen.

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We had CPS called on us..it was pretty scary, but we had a very nice and understanding social worker.
Perhaps the reason why the police officers are getting calls is from genuine concern about your kids....even if you can see them from your window, that doesn't mean that you will have enough time to react to any given situation should something happen.
Right.....So we should just put our kids in big plastic bubbles....

Eventually our kids are going to have to be outside with out us standing over them. I'm not advocating not watching your children while they are out but I think that the cops being called and being told you are "under surveillance" is ridiculous. I'm sorry...if the neighbors trully felt "genuine concern" for the kids, they wouldn't be calling the cops. They might mention somthing to the mama/papa but calling the cops is extreme.

I personally am not sure what the role of a police officer is... I understand the whole "lock bad people up thing"...but other than that.....

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Twice this summer I went inside for a few minutes (took a bag of groceries in and went in to get the diaper bag) and came out to find cops pulled over in front of our house - one was called, the other was driving by. Both of them told me I shouldn't leave the kids outside alone...and we live near a middle school on a fairly quiet road in a town with fewer than 5,000 people.

I feel paranoid now.
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Of course our children shouldn't live in bubbles, but it depends on what their ages are and their level of maturity as to whether or not they should be playing outside by themselves. I don't know the ages of the children of the OP...It's sad that we live in such times as to have to be concerned about our children playing outside at all, but that's just a harsh reality of the world that we live in, or at least for most of us.

We live on the same street as an elementary school...there's a registered sex offender who lives right down the street. But we don't live in a small town, or on a quiet street.

FWIW, I believe the instances stated here in this thread are obviously over reactions, but you can't prevent people from over reacting......

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When I was a child growing up I walked my sister to school. I must have been 6 and she 5. We had no fear of being abducted and the police would smile and say hello. This was in a mid western city.

But I notice a very real shift in parents today, myself most definately included. Parents are terrified of the world harming their/our children. Is it television? Is the world sicker, crazier? Yes, all three.

My mother, who care takes for 3 grandchildren, notes the same feeling I have. She wouldn't let the grandchildren do what we freely did years ago.
She attributes it to an extremely lax legal system. She said kidnappers and sex offenders would not be let out of jail. The sentences were much harsher. The mentally ill were locked up in hospitals their entire lives. So, the community WAS safer.
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As for registered sex offenders in our area, there are a few, and they are several blocks away. Of course, there is always the possibility that there is someone around who hasn't been caught yet, but I still think the cops were overreacting in my case. (I'm paranoid of them, BTW.)
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The mentally ill were locked up in hospitals their entire lives. So, the community WAS safer.
Please do not assume that all mentally ill people are dangerous to others, especially children.
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Avena- You are completly correct in your statement about how the police are there not to serve and protect us, but the government. In several court cases where people sued the poliece for not responding to 911 calls (with some horrendous consequences, one case 3 women were raped and tortured for over 3 hours after they called 911) the rulings in all the cases stated that the police have no duty to protect us, it's not their job. Scary huh?

I haven't personally experienced any horrendous run ins with the cops (just a few liars making me pay a fine) but I have known people personally and have heard stories from reputable places that make me completely distrust the police.

papapoochie- just a warning, some people may take your statement about the mentally ill as an offensive statement. I'm not personally offended, but I have spent several years working with mentally ill people and most of them are not a threat to society in any way. I assume that you mean mentally ill people who have criminal tendancies.
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papapoochie- just a warning, some people may take your statement about the mentally ill as an offensive statement. I'm not personally offended, but I have spent several years working with mentally ill people and most of them are not a threat to society in any way. I assume that you mean mentally ill people who have criminal tendancies.
My apologies folks. I do not want to offend anyone. I intended to imply the criminally insane. Those who are sociopathic and tend to be highly recidivistic with their criminal acts against others. I should have clarified this.
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This is kind of OT, but reading this thread reminded me of a study done on the moral development of police officers according to Kohlberg's stages ...

The study indicated that the majority of police officers never progress beyond Preconventional Moral Development (Stage 1) -- the stage most among children. This stage is associated with the "I do the right thing because I don't want to be punished." thought ...

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well, isn't that downright offensive : : : :
why are you taking issue with the POs as they have to respond to call - valid or not. I think you should be complaining about the ones that keep turning in in.
the POs are just doing their job... you'd be really pissed if you called on someone & they ignored it
& yeah, the bad guys keep getting bigger & more dangerous so the good guys have to keep in shape!

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This is kind of OT, but reading this thread reminded me of a study done on the moral development of police officers according to Kohlberg's stages ...

The study indicated that the majority of police officers never progress beyond Preconventional Moral Development (Stage 1) -- the stage most among children. This stage is associated with the "I do the right thing because I don't want to be punished." thought ...
what STUDY where & by whom ? :
you really do not know Law Enforcement.
How you possibly make a blanket statement?
Your area of expertise is in ????

POs/FF/etc deal with things everyday that the AVG person may not see in a lifetime. How dare anyone say
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majority of police officers never progress beyond Preconventional Moral Development
- sounds like some Prof has little idea what goes on :
Let them pick a dead child off the road & see how their Moral Dev. foes or how about the child molester that goes free b/c of some legal glitch. YK the guy is gonna do it again but you're powerless -

Yes, that's why we have lwas that need to be obeyed, society does need boundaries. They go by the law or how else can you do this job. Their job is bounded by
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She attributes it to an extremely lax legal system. She said kidnappers and sex offenders would not be let out of jail. The sentences were much harsher
this is much of the current problem

PO's get called on kids for a number of reasons - some are valid some are not. It's becomign a trend for POs to be parent kids or come in & play mediator or even WORSE - play boogie man. Do you how many people will see DH in uniform & tell their their kids, "You behave or that Officer is gonna arrest you & take you to jail" : WTF?

now that parent is making a kid be resentful, scared, etc of POs DH will speak up & ask them not to do that.

If one has over-zealous neighbors then that's 1 issue but I can give a ton of horror stories my DH has seen in 21 YEARS of PD work & that people should called & looked the other way so.. is over zealous or being too complacent wrong?
if someone in the 'hood has issue with you, you should deal with them either personally or legally.

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ITA polka123! There are good cops and there are bad cops, but unfortunately it seems like most people zone in on the bad cops and assume all cops are that way. My dad's best friend was a good cop and a good man, unfortunately he died of a heart attack within a month of my dad and I moving down here. We miss him dearly. He risked his life every day to keep gangs from getting roots in my hometown!

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Yes, that's why we have lwas that need to be obeyed, society does need boundaries. They go by the law or how else can you do this job. Their job is bounded by

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do the right thing because I don't want to be punished."
You're absolutely right! Their job is bounded by that. And 'that' is preconventional moral development ...

I'm sorry if my referencing the study and stages of moral development upset you.

Certainly there are good cops and bad cops and everyone chooses his or her profession for different reasons ...

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well, isn't that downright offensive : : : :
why are you taking issue with the POs as they have to respond to call - valid or not. I think you should be complaining about the ones that keep turning in in.
the POs are just doing their job... you'd be really pissed if you called on someone & they ignored it
& yeah, the bad guys keep getting bigger & more dangerous so the good guys have to keep in shape!



what STUDY where & by whom ? :
you really do not know Law Enforcement.
How you possibly make a blanket statement?
Your area of expertise is in ????

POs/FF/etc deal with things everyday that the AVG person may not see in a lifetime. How dare anyone say - sounds like some Prof has little idea what goes on :
Let them pick a dead child off the road & see how their Moral Dev. foes or how about the child molester that goes free b/c of some legal glitch. YK the guy is gonna do it again but you're powerless -

Yes, that's why we have lwas that need to be obeyed, society does need boundaries. They go by the law or how else can you do this job. Their job is bounded by

this is much of the current problem

PO's get called on kids for a number of reasons - some are valid some are not. It's becomign a trend for POs to be parent kids or come in & play mediator or even WORSE - play boogie man. Do you how many people will see DH in uniform & tell their their kids, "You behave or that Officer is gonna arrest you & take you to jail" : WTF?

now that parent is making a kid be resentful, scared, etc of POs DH will speak up & ask them not to do that.

If one has over-zealous neighbors then that's 1 issue but I can give a ton of horror stories my DH has seen in 21 YEARS of PD work & that people should called & looked the other way so.. is over zealous or being too complacent wrong?
if someone in the 'hood has issue with you, you should deal with them either personally or legally.

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According to ploka123, "the POs are just doing their job."

Ummm, yah, I am going to go ahead and disagree with you there. They aren't doing their jobs. From the sound of it, they are continually harrassing people because of the word of someone else, IOW, not even investigating, just listening to rumors. PO's job is to catch criminals - i.e. murderers and rapists - not harass parents who are watching their kids play.
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Any Dads ever have a run-in with cops over your kids?

Are your kids permitted to play outside your condo/apt unharrassed?

Do you get confronted by police officers over anonymous tips that you're negligent as a parent?

My dw and I have recently had some hair raising events with gigantic mutant males in uniform, the most recent yesterday when I was informed we were "under surveillance" becaus eof neighbor complaints that our kids play outdoors. I wasn't aware that playing 10 ft from one's apt door was illegal, it's not in our CC&R's anywhere. Our kids are fairly mellow when they're outside, that's why I let them do it, esp. when I can see them at all times through the window where I work, facing it.

Anyway, how'd you guys handle any encounters? Or is it just me? I attract their ego-mojo or whatever. I'm kinda freaked out.
OK not a dad and I haven't read any responses yet.

Yes a neighbor called police on me several by a neighbor looking for revenge.

As for the watching them out the window.....it's possible the neighbors think you are neglecting them b/c they can't see you in the window.

I also take offense at the lovely description of the officers.

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Right.....So we should just put our kids in big plastic bubbles....

Eventually our kids are going to have to be outside with out us standing over them. I'm not advocating not watching your children while they are out but I think that the cops being called and being told you are "under surveillance" is ridiculous. I'm sorry...if the neighbors trully felt "genuine concern" for the kids, they wouldn't be calling the cops. They might mention somthing to the mama/papa but calling the cops is extreme.

I personally am not sure what the role of a police officer is... I understand the whole "lock bad people up thing"...but other than that.....

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If I constantly see the same children outside without a parent I would call the police.

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As for registered sex offenders in our area, there are a few, and they are several blocks away. Of course, there is always the possibility that there is someone around who hasn't been caught yet, but I still think the cops were overreacting in my case. (I'm paranoid of them, BTW.)
I had a police officer show up in front of my house as well in a similar situation as you. He was driving by and I was running something in the house. The way he explained it to me was the concern of carjacking. Anyway, he was really nice about and nothing came of it.

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According to ploka123, "the POs are just doing their job."

Ummm, yah, I am going to go ahead and disagree with you there. They aren't doing their jobs. From the sound of it, they are continually harrassing people because of the word of someone else, IOW, not even investigating, just listening to rumors. PO's job is to catch criminals - i.e. murderers and rapists - not harass parents who are watching their kids play.
How exactly do you think they investigate a claim??

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Houdini - "How exactly do you think they investigate a claim??"

How about the traditional way - look up the bloody police record of both the "informant" and the "accused." If they are both clean - talk to both parties. If the "informant" keeps calling and you see no sign of neglect, what else is it but harrassment?
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Houdini - "How exactly do you think they investigate a claim??"

How about the traditional way - look up the bloody police record of both the "informant" and the "accused." If they are both clean - talk to both parties. If the "informant" keeps calling and you see no sign of neglect, what else is it but harrassment?
I have never heard of an officer pulling up a police record for anyone for a complaint call. Even if one comes up not "clean," does it make them a untrustable source of information??

And if there is more than one "informant?"

What if the officer doesn't see anything actually happening, does that mean it isn't???

Lots of activity stops when a police car pulls up, doesn't mean it wasn't happening before they were there?

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Houdini - "How exactly do you think they investigate a claim??"

How about the traditional way - look up the bloody police record of both the "informant" and the "accused." If they are both clean - talk to both parties. If the "informant" keeps calling and you see no sign of neglect, what else is it but harrassment?

Not kid related.


But


PO's have to investigate every claim as though it is real. What happens when the boy who called wolf gets eaten? It's the PO's fault for not believing them.



I had the cops show up at my house because my neighbors called in noise complaints on us once a week. The Cops were irritated with coming out because they NEW my house was not loud. They stood at the steps trying to hear the smallest peep and NOTHING.


They even said so, but because it is called in, they had to knock on the door and inform me.



/applaud officers for actually doing what they are paid to do.


the people who call in the complaints however? that is another issue.

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I have a friend who lives on the opposite side of town, and her husband is a police officer. He used to work in our dept., but now works a couple of towns away. She was suprised that the police here had any problem with my kids being out as I described in my original post.

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Originally Posted by Houdini
I had a police officer show up in front of my house as well in a similar situation as you. He was driving by and I was running something in the house. The way he explained it to me was the concern of carjacking. Anyway, he was really nice about and nothing came of it.
I'm guessing you meant kidnapping?

I have wondered how likely it is that someone would happen to drive by my house once, see my kids outside, and grab them right then and there. We don't often see people who aren't living in or at least visiting one of the houses here. Our particular (2-2&1/2 block) street doesn't go through on either end (we sometimes get drivers who don't realize that). The configuration of it and the two perpendicular streets is like a "U" with a tail on the lower left side. The middle school is a block away, but only the busses come through here. Parent pick-ups/drop-offs are 99% on the other side of the school - a completely separate street. A car with someone sitting in it for any period of time would stick out like a sore thumb.

It may be that there was concern that my kids would go into the street (ds1 is tiny for his age), but the kids were engaged in doing something both times I described above, and would have been very unlikely to do so. I am less likely to leave the kids outside now in similar situations, but more from not wanting the cops to stop by again.
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