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I didn't see this posted yet. Hooray to the AAP! http://aapnews.aappublications.org/c...full/30/4/12-a

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Hurray! I am going to share this with all of my parents groups.

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Now I hope that peds get on board with this.
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Innnnteresting! If this becomes the new standard, I guess I will have to buy one of those mirrors to see my baby when she's rear-facing, because I'm not sitting in the back seat with her for two years! it's cramped back there
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very interesting. I'm sure no one outside of here will agree with that though. I really don't mind keeping her RFing if it keeps her safer.

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The sad thing it that it took them what, eight years to update their recommendation. I have a paper from the AAP published in 2002 from a study done in 2001 where they recognize that ERF is safest (to the limits of the seat, not just two).

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Cool! My almost 2-yr-old is still RFing I don't have ANY other friends whose toddlers are, though.

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Well we were just at the pedi yesterday and the nurse was a CPST. Granted the first question she asked was if my (21 pound!) two year old was in a 5 point harness, and said that my 3.5 year old was "getting to the age of a high back booster" but was very happy they are both RF, made sure we have seats with high RF limits and mentioned it's 5 times safer. I think the poor woman must set her expectations very low. There is some education getting around out there.

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Is this actually for real? I'm asking because there was a spoof AAP link in the Lactivism Forum about the AAP and formula companies. If this vehicle safety news is legit, then that's wonderful! If it's not, we can keep hoping they'll change it soon!

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Is this actually for real? I'm asking because there was a spoof AAP link in the Lactivism Forum about the AAP and formula companies. If this vehicle safety news is legit, then that's wonderful! If it's not, we can keep hoping they'll change it soon!
You scared me so I went to AAP's main site (not from my link but from a google search) and searched for it from there and I found it. So it's real! yay!

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Oh good! I am posting this on my FB!
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Only 2?
Well, it's certainly taking the states time to get to where we are.
Surely, they must have the same research that we do, clearly stating that rearfacing is the best for as long as possible, and should be done until at least 4 yo.
They are concidering making it a law here, that all kids must be rearfacing until at least the age of 4.

(I realise you need to get seats that have higher weight limits and higher slots first, but Britax (just to mention one brand you also have) has them and are selling them here.)

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Only 2?
Well, it's certainly taking the states time to get to where we are.
Surely, they must have the same research that is saying that rearfacing is the best for as long as possible, and more like 4 years than 2.
They are concidering making it a law here, that all kids must be rearfacing until at least the age of 4.
Sigh... I wish that seats here were AVAILABLE to keep kids rf until 4. Most kids outgrow all seats by weight before 4. Dd is skinny skinny skinny and she barely would have made 4 by weight for a carseat- and it's warm here, so clothes are lightweight (no jeans, boots, etc)

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I think if they suddenly jumped the recomendations from 1 to 4, parents wouldn't comply. It's not that unreasonable to keep your toddler RFing a bit longer- then maybe they'll extend the RFing recomendations furthur in a few years, when more seats are available and affordable. Britax seats are NOT affordable for everybody.

I was able to keep DS RFing until 2.5, when he got too tall for his seat. Had the recomendation been to RF until age 3, I wouldn't have been able to do so.

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Yay! That is so awesome! It is about time!

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Great! More info to share with naysayers that wonder why in the world my 3.5 year old is still RF in her Britax Decathlon. At 26 lb, I think she will be RF for awhile yet. I would like her to get to at least age 4 which I don't think will be a problem.

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I think if they suddenly jumped the recomendations from 1 to 4, parents wouldn't comply. It's not that unreasonable to keep your toddler RFing a bit longer- then maybe they'll extend the RFing recomendations furthur in a few years, when more seats are available and affordable. Britax seats are NOT affordable for everybody.
I sure hope you are right, and that they will not take long to recomend longer RFing than 2 yo.
But, Britax seats expensive? Really?
Here, Britax is one of the cheapest brands available.

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Here, Britax is the most expensive seat by far. It's a luxury status symbol. (Obviously, it's also used by people who just like it. But people who do look for a luxury status symbol car seat, get a Britax.)

Maybe the AAP can also lobby for higher weight limits rf, so that those toddlers who reach 35 pounds at 18 months can continue to rf up to 24 months.
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Now I wish we could get higher RF limit seats. DS1 is almost 3 and 37lbs and DS2 will be one in a week and is 29lbs. Our britax only goes to 33lbs and I can't talk DH into buying a new one for 2lbs. DS1 was ff by 18 months. It sucks
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i'm sending this to my neighbor who i talked out of ff her lo at 8 months!
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How does anyone do this? My kids knees were up by their ears soon after their first birthdays. There is no way I could keep them RFing that long.
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How does anyone do this? My kids knees were up by their ears soon after their first birthdays. There is no way I could keep them RFing that long.
Where their feet and legs are doesn't matter. Kids are flexible. Dd rf until 3.5yrs old. She crossed her legs or hung them over the sides.

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Where their feet and legs are doesn't matter. Kids are flexible. Dd rf until 3.5yrs old. She crossed her legs or hung them over the sides.

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yup. My kids are all taller than average, and are still comfortable rear-facing past two. In fact, the only reason we turned our 3rd child at 2.5 yrs was because he reached the weight limit of his seat, his legs are long but he bent/folded them with no complaints.

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I agree it would be impossible to say "4 years" but "to the limits" is what the AAP has been advocating since 2001. However, it's easier to grasp "oh ok 2 years" than it is some random "35 pounds." When you are pregnant 35 pounds seems like eons away. My skinny minny almost- 4 year old is too tall for all seats but 2, and she's getting closer to the weight limit as well.

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Great news! I wonder how long it will be before we start seeing higher limit seats in the states.

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I thought the higher weight limit seats required the foot which can't be tested in the current us tests?
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I thought ppl liked to sit scrunched up. Seriously. I mean I'm sitting here right now in an office chair and my legs are all folded up on it, it's just way more comfortable than sitting "properly."

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I thought ppl liked to sit scrunched up. Seriously. I mean I'm sitting here right now in an office chair and my legs are all folded up on it, it's just way more comfortable than sitting "properly."
Ditto. I do the same thing all the time, especially in the car. It really annoys people too and I don't get it. Even the few times I drive I pull the seat all the way up, and I'm not short (5' 7"). : Oh well

I'm thinking now I will keep my LO RFing for as long as possible, whatever keeps her safer. That's most important.

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Well this is making my day!!! Its probably too late for parents who couldn't wait to turn their 1 year olds around. But for those with newborns, I think this will definitely help keep kids RF longer.
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Just need a small vent here where people know exactly how I feel.

I just put this link on my facebook and wrote a note, and tagged all the new mamas.

I got one comment that said "Horsepucky! This is far beyond rediculus..."
ugh,
I said, Why do you think so?
And she replied with more "kids with padded walls, no merry go rounds etc". I linked her to some videos showing FF vs RF.

Anyone have more links to share with this new mama...I feel awful too cause she was a client. And, I'm rotten with confrontation, but trying really hard to break that every day, so here we are.
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