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#61 of 132 Old 07-13-2010, 05:11 PM
 
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That seat does not look like a good fit for your daughter. When you tried her in the seats in the store, did you fully buckle her in? Is there a way to get the female buckle closer to her body? If I had no other options, I would consider getting the houdini clip, but that would be my personal choice. Hopefully the car seat manufacturer has a clip that is approved for use with this seat.

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Judging from the pictures, the receiving end of the crotch buckle is too far from the body to work properly. If it can't be moved, the child won't fit correctly in the seat.

We totally understand not having enough money to buy a new seat. What you choose to do is completely up to you. But please believe the techs here who are saying it's pretty likely that this is the wrong seat for your child.

Oh, and your babe is a cutie!

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Also does it do any better with the strap covers on? They are part of the way that EU seats straps stay on the shoulders.

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Looking at your photos, I'd say she's not sitting well at all. Now, I did say that my skinny, agile DD can get out of the straps when she wants to, BUT, she sits very nice and tightly in her seat.

As others have said, can you tighten the crotch straps? And I think you do probably need to use strap pads. Maybe try the Houdini Stop? (It isn't likely to get it worse!)

And (totally understanding not being able to afford another seat - we certainly have no money for "extras"!), I would actually say I think she needs a new seat. Could your parents or someone else help, as a birthday present or so?
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I agree that the carseat simply does not fit your daughter.

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If you can't adjust the crotch strap, it would be worth taking the seat to the store and raising a polite ruckus about how they sold you a seat that doesn't fit your dd at all.
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It definitely looks like the seat isn't fitting your kiddo and I totally agree about moving the crotch bit back. That should help a lot.
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The crotch strap is not adjustable. The store had lots of other options but none fit better. They all are made to accommodate a wider and heavier toddler. I don't think there is a better option, even if I was planing on buying another 2 seats. I do use the strap pads, I took them off to see if I could get a closer fit and have since replaced them.

I will find out more from the manufacturer and will consider the Houdini. I know you won't like this, but in the mean time I have been using an old chest clip from a "century" seat, just so that she doesn't remove the straps all together. She gets out of them as soon as I put them on. I am sure that a seat with the wrong chest clip is better than not having straps on at all !
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What seats are available to you in the store? Can you order somewhere online. If so where? I'm sure people on this board can help you find an appropriate seat that is available to you.

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Mostly EU standard seats, which I understand pass higher tests than others. This seat is meant for infants and up so that the crotch strap not being adjustable should not be a problem.

I talked to the Safety 1st rep today, he said that the manufacture has approved chest clips to be added to EU seats and that he will bring me one next week and check her fit.
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I talked to the Safety 1st rep today, he said that the manufacture has approved chest clips to be added to EU seats and that he will bring me one next week and check her fit.
Oh thank goodness.

If the seat is intended for infants, maybe they expect you'll be using a bulkier diaper?
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If the seat is intended for infants, maybe they expect you'll be using a bulkier diaper?
HA! No, I expect they'd want me to bulk up the baby! I've been through that on a different tread, I have been advised by the medical community to stop bfing quite often! Formula must be much better than my milk. Others have tried to convince me to give her junk food. Crazy!
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Look, even a thin baby should fit in a seat! DD was quite underweight as a baby, tall and really skinny - frightfully skinny at one point (she didn't fit newborn size cloth nappies well until she was nearly a year old), but she has been in her Brio Zento since she was barely 5 months old.

And that seat is one of the biggest on the market, it should fit a 5 yo (up to 55 lbs), even if it might not fit all 5 yos, due to height!

The seat certainly is roomy, but DD has always been snugg in it. While her head might fall forward or sideways as she sleeps, he body does not move. That said, as I mentioned earlier, yes, if she really wants to she can get an arm out - but she's a bit of an escape artist.

Oh, if you could get a hold of an extended rear-facing seat, I would buy that. (DH's father bought the Brio Zento as a baby gift, as we couldn't afford it, so I understand the problem with buying another seat. But really, I'd rather borrow money to get my child a safe seat). The Brio Zento is the only one imported to NZ, so we've go that. But when we were back in Sweden recently we looked at the Britax Two-way and Akta Graco Duo-flex XTP. They both seemed very good, and DD sat really well in them.
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It can be used as an extended rear facing seat, and after all I have learned from all of you I am planing to keep her rear facing as long as possible. The padding provided for infants has her sitting snugly. The problem is with the straps, from about armpit high downward they are not close to her body. The representative will contact me and will see her in the seat and provide me with chest clips approved by the manufacturer for this seat.
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Right, sorry, I couldn't find any info on when to turn forward-facing, and most rear-facing seats produced for UK market are only rear-facing up to 13 kg.
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DD is only 8.5 kg now so by the time she is 13 kg she will probably be in grade school . Anyway, from what I have been reading, turning them FF is a suggestion, not a regulation, as I had been led to believe.
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The rep came today and brought me a chest clip, and installed it for me. I told him that is was supposed to be at armpit level, but he didn't think it was significant. I will download a picture for you to see if I got it right. She tried unsuccessfully to get out of it, so I feel better already!
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The rep came today and brought me a chest clip, and installed it for me. I told him that is was supposed to be at armpit level, but he didn't think it was significant. I will download a picture for you to see if I got it right. She tried unsuccessfully to get out of it, so I feel better already!
Yes, it should be around armpit level. It's important for the clip to be on bone (ie her sternum) rather than on soft tissue.

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The rep came today and brought me a chest clip, and installed it for me. I told him that is was supposed to be at armpit level, but he didn't think it was significant. I will download a picture for you to see if I got it right. She tried unsuccessfully to get out of it, so I feel better already!
Did he give you any other advice about how to get her to fit better? I'm just curious, I've never really heard of a car seat rep before!

Did you post a photo?
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He seemed more like a salesman....

Here is the photo I posted:
http://s837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/sondacop/

Did I get it right?

It kinda bunches up the padding, but that doesn't bother her. She can't get out, it is easy to remove and (he says) it is approved, so I am happy.
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lol, she looks po'd that she can't get out!

The straps look a little high, can they be lowered? The slots should be at or a little below the shoulders when rear facing.
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She is PO!

There is a lower slot. The slot I am using now is below her shoulders. Since the padding bunches up it doesn't seem that way in the photo. How far below the shoulders should the slot be?
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How much shell is above her head? You said she was tall and you weren't kidding! It might just be the angle of the pictures but she looks nearly grown out of that seat by height!

She is really really cute BTW...love the curls!

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She is really really cute BTW...love the curls!
I agree, but then, I am biased!

She is tall but since she is so thin I still have her on the infant padding, as soon as she gets bigger I will remove it and then she will have more head room.
She really is a beanstalk! Her shirt size is 18-24 in hight and her pants size is 6 months! Try to fit a baby like that in a car seat, its enough to make you want to walk!
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Just make sure she still has the 1 inch of shell over the top of her head...from the pictures, I would say it might be time to remove it now just to be safe. I;m really glad you found a solution!

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Euro seats allow the child to RF until the tops of the ears are even with the top of the shell

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Euro seats allow the child to RF until the tops of the ears are even with the top of the shell
How safe is this? And how comfortable?

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Good question, why would there be different standards for hight?
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Here's what I know (or think I know, so take it with a grain of salt). The 1" rule is because in a frontal end crash children tend to ride up the shell. The more shell above their head, the less of a chance they have of hitting their head on the headrest from the seat that's in front of (err..behind) the car seat. (Example- say you have the seat installed in the back seat in back of the drivers seat- the child would hit their head on the driver's seat's head rest.) I think this is also why the straps need to be at or below the shoulders- to prevent the child from riding up in a frontal impact.

The European rule totally confuses me.

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Most European seats also allow the recline to be as little as 20* - it's hard to ramp up when you are sitting up right.

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