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#1 of 12 Old 02-22-2012, 09:02 PM - Thread Starter
 
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My 8 yr old is having her birthday party tomorrow at a small swimming pool/waterslide venue. No lifeguard.  At the most we are having 11 kids. A parent of four of the kids is swimming. I will be in the water with my 3 yr old and 5 yr old who can't swim. I recruited my dad to act as a lifeguard. My mom agreed to watch my 4 month old while I swim (dh is working).

 

Question: My mom offered ( to my sister) to take my 4 yr old nephew along who can't swim or touch the bottom. His older brother is coming too. She has a 2 yr old and 2 month old so doesn't want to be in the water or come along. I said no to this because he will be in the water with wings on and no designated adult in with him. The birthday girl likes him and would like him to be there.

Does that sound reasonable to refuse this? My sister is a lot more relaxed about safety issues.  It is a very small hotel pool with one fast waterslide.

 

Also would your opinion change if they put a life-jacket on him?

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If I understand correctly, there will be 2 adults in the water and your dad watching from the side.

 

One of the adults will be busy with her 2 children who can't swim (that's you).

The other adult is mother to 4 of the other children and will presumably be watching out for him.

 

5 other kids (swimmers, I hope) will have only your dad to watch them.

 

And your mom wants to add a 4 year old non-swimmer to the mix.

 

No. Not without a designated adult to watch him.

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If I understand correctly, there will be 2 adults in the water and your dad watching from the side.

 

One of the adults will be busy with her 2 children who can't swim (that's you).

The other adult is mother to 4 of the other children and will presumably be watching out for him.

 

5 other kids (swimmers, I hope) will have only your dad to watch them.

 

And your mom wants to add a 4 year old non-swimmer to the mix.

 

No. Not without a designated adult to watch him.

Yeah. It sounds really cut and dry when I see it spelled out like that. Thanks. The other kids are swimmers. 
 

 

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I wouldn't either. He needs another adult for him. 


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I would say no. I had a swimming party for my DD with nine kids and only half swam, this was a pain even with several lifeguards. I wouldn't knowingly add another non swimmer to the mix unless they were all going to be on a kiddy pool.
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I would also say No to that.  And good for you for doing so.  People often find it hard to speak up.

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Yes, a solid "no" from me too.

 

Do you have any other friend/relative who might be up for joining the party as another in-pool "lifeguard"?  Or does your sister have anyone (her dh?) who could watch the two littlest ones while she went in the pool (or could her dh come in with his ds)?


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Is your dad an actual lifeguard? I would not do a swimming party without an actual lifeguard on duty.
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I agree with the above poster. A real lifeguard is a must. They are CPR certified and trained in rescue techniques. "Acting" as a lifeguard sounds like a recipe for trouble. 

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Is the hotel accepting the liability of a birthday party in the pool area?

 

I have been a lifeguard (on and off) for about 25 years.  No way would I feel that was safe even as described, even without another non-swimmer added to the mix.  Non-swimmers should have an adult within arm's reach at all times.


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No, that is not a safe scenario.  

Furthermore, I would NOT host the party as planned without hiring a certified life guard whose job it is to watch the pool and nothing else.   A grandad in the pool is not enough.  8 year olds are not consistently strong swimmers, or swimmers at all, and a birthday party with so few adult eyes is a recipe for disaster.  


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The only way I would host a swimming party would be if every child had a parent (or other guardian) in attendance who was responsible for watching them.  If that were the case, I would be fine with your mom watching your 4-month old and 4-year old nephew at the same time.  She could put the 4-month old in a water sling and stay within arms reach of the 4-year old.  But, even older kids should have an adult who is specifically watching out for *them* and responsible for them.


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