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Ya know, in most cases Canadian lawmakers are MUCH more sensible than Americans. The one exception is carseats! I don't get why it was just THIS YEAR that 65lb seats were approved to be sold in Canada. And the Regent is still not allowed there. I just don't get it. You have my sympathies, in that respect.
Not that America is a WHOLE lot better. Here you can't get a seat that rearfaces past 35 pounds. In the Netherlands they go to 50! I don't get why that is. I would SO LOVE for those 50lb rearfacing seats to be available here...
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The Kyle David ****** Foundation does not just supply Regents. They also have Radian80's, called the Radian Premier in Canada. It's only rated to 65 lbs in Canada, though.

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It still doesn't mean that it's available everywhere in canada. I never saw it here.

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I've heard Canadian Tire is a popular place to get them.
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I never saw any seat in Canada that had harnesses to 65lbs. To 47lbs was the max i ever saw. Please don't say that Britax do make seats up to 65lbs with harnesses because we can't get them up here.
The marathon will now be labeled for use up to 65lbs in Canada as well as the radian.

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You can always order them online, too.

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Someone told me and the ministry of transportation site seems to suggest that the law is that children must be in a boost between 40 and 80 pounds, and cannot be in a harness past 40 pounds. It's stupid.

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I think that is the way it used to be in Canada, but Canadian techs on other boards have told me that just recently (like in the last few months) they have started allowing kids to be harnessed in Canada until 65 pounds.

I agree that to put any limit on how long you can keep your own child as safe as possible in the car is, as you said, stupid. That's about the ONLY reason I can be thankful I don't live there!
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Someone told me and the ministry of transportation site seems to suggest that the law is that children must be in a boost between 40 and 80 pounds, and cannot be in a harness past 40 pounds. It's stupid.
That's the way the law was. It was recently changed.

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Can you help me find a source?

Of course, I can ask DP to ask his colleagues at the Ministry of Transportation.

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Thank you so much!

My oldest is still far way from even 40 pounds, but that makes me feel a lot better.

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Ok, this has been making me ponder... If the US standards are more stringent than the Canadian standards, why don't more Canadians buy US seats and use them according to US rules? Ok, I know that would be technically illegal. But, when you consider how vastly many people misuse carseats in ways that are dangerous, wouldn't "misusing" seats in a way that is safer than your country requires pretty much pass under the radar?

This is *purely* a hypothetical question, I am *not* criticizing anyone for not doing this!
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Except for the harness thing, which has now been changed, the standards are not less stringent. In fact, I have read the opposite.

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We have the Britax Boulevard, which has a weight limit of 65 pounds...but...I just had to turn it forward-facing because it has a huge warning to do so once the child is over 20 pounds. DD turns one today, and, although I'd much rather keep her rear-facing, she's 22 pounds so I switched it.

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Except for the harness thing, which has now been changed, the standards are not less stringent. In fact, I have read the opposite.
Canada's standards are definitely more stringent. The US doesn't have any mandatory safety standards (barring carseats) on childrens' products, whereas Canada does. 'Nuff said.

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We have the Britax Boulevard, which has a weight limit of 65 pounds...but...I just had to turn it forward-facing because it has a huge warning to do so once the child is over 20 pounds. DD turns one today, and, although I'd much rather keep her rear-facing, she's 22 pounds so I switched it.
I'm surprised. I thought Britax had high rf limits.

My non Britax car seats can rf to 35 pounds.

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We have the Britax Boulevard, which has a weight limit of 65 pounds...but...I just had to turn it forward-facing because it has a huge warning to do so once the child is over 20 pounds. DD turns one today, and, although I'd much rather keep her rear-facing, she's 22 pounds so I switched it.
Go re-read it. The Boulevard has a rf weight of 33lbs. You misread.

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Go re-read it. The Boulevard has a rf weight of 33lbs. You misread.

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Seats in Canada only RF to 30 pounds.

But yes, she did misread it. The Britax seats are kinda confusing if you read the sticker. A tech did the same thing with ours at a check--she read the "Rear facing ONLY for children under 20 pounds" and didn't see the "RF to 33 lbs, FF from 20-65 lbs" part. They really need to re-word that sticker.

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Ok, this has been making me ponder... If the US standards are more stringent than the Canadian standards, why don't more Canadians buy US seats and use them according to US rules? Ok, I know that would be technically illegal. But, when you consider how vastly many people misuse carseats in ways that are dangerous, wouldn't "misusing" seats in a way that is safer than your country requires pretty much pass under the radar?

This is *purely* a hypothetical question, I am *not* criticizing anyone for not doing this!
Canadian child restraint laws are more stringent in MOST ways. But you're right in that in the US, you can put your child in a Regent to keep them harnessed when they outgrow the MA/Radian. Regents are not approved for use in Canada. AND, I believe all seats in Canada still have a 30 lb rearfacing limit (?), whereas in the US, many seats rearface to 35 pounds. So as to your question about people buying seats in the US and using them illegally in Canada, I know of a few Canadian techs who have made the parental decision to do exactly that. Just like there are a few Americans who import seats from Sweden to keep their 36 pound 1 or 2 year olds rearfacing, even though Swedish seats are not legally approved for use in the US. It happens.
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We have the Britax Boulevard, which has a weight limit of 65 pounds...but...I just had to turn it forward-facing because it has a huge warning to do so once the child is over 20 pounds. DD turns one today, and, although I'd much rather keep her rear-facing, she's 22 pounds so I switched it.
That sticker is very, very confusing. I can't remember exactly what it says but something about "Rearfacing only until 20 pounds". It means you can only use the seat only rearfacing, not forward facing, until 20 pounds. But it does not mean that you can use it rearfacing only until your kid is 20 pounds and then you have to turn it. Britax seats in Canada rearface to 30 pounds, US ones to 33 pounds. You can (and absolutely should) turn her back rearfacing.
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Thanks for the 30lb clarification. I didn't realize that the boulevard was available in Canada. Last I heard only the Marathon was (of the high limit britax seats)

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Oops, maybe they aren't. I wonder if she bought it in the U.S?
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Oops, maybe they aren't. I wonder if she bought it in the U.S?
That's what I was thinking... in which case it's rated to rf until 33lbs

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I just got word from a Canadian on another board. She says they still just have the RA and the MA.
You're right!
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Oops, maybe they aren't. I wonder if she bought it in the U.S?
She must have bought it in the US. Sorry, scratch what I said earlier

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