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I sort of asked this in a thread before, but wanted to just make sure as I'm expecting babe in two months.

So... four year old in *centre*?? Newborn in bucket seat in side? Is that right? It sort of defies my instincts to protect my more vulnerable baby, but the rationale is that the bucket seat provides more protection, right?

My housemate told me to double check as she thinks I should clarify that my older child is not a toddler, but a 40 lb four year old. So, should my 40 lb four year old be in the centre, or the side?

And, while I'm at it, her carseat is one of those that has a 5 point harness or the option to just use a seatbelt and use it as a booster. Which of those should I be doing? I have no latch in my car and the carseat is installed just with a seatbelt, if that makes a difference.

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Yes I would put the 4 year old in the centre.

Also, even if your car seat is installed with a seatbelt, it has to have the top tether too in Ontario. If your car does not have a top tether bolt, bring it to a dealership who can put one in either for free or 20 dollars.

I would still keep a 40 pound child harnessed. It used to be that harness went up to 48 lbs here, but now it is 65 pounds- of course all depending on your car seat limits.

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With your current seat, you need to take the harness straps out ASAP, since your 4 yo is at the weight limit. I would definitely recommend harnessing past 40 pounds in a higher-weight seat.

As for placement, this is a matter of hot debate among techs. I personally am among the "least protected goes in the middle" camp, in which case your 4yo would be in the middle, since she is FF.

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Uh, it has to have the top tether? I had no idea. Wow.

I actually think my new car has a top tether, but on the side. Do I need that for the bucket seat?

i suck at carseats.

My carseat does hold up to 60... or maybe 80? lbs. But it converts to a booster. As long as she fits in the harness, it should be safe I would think.

I should call the dealership... I've been driving around for years with no tether. I wouldn't have the faintest idea how to install a carseat to a tether.
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With your current seat, you need to take the harness straps out ASAP, since your 4 yo is at the weight limit. I would definitely recommend harnessing past 40 pounds in a higher-weight seat.
Okay, why harness straps out asap? She is hovering around 40 lbs, has been for awhile and probably will be for awhile yet. I dont see how it is an emergency or a safety issue that she is harnessed? Unless I'm missing something.

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Uh, it has to have the top tether? I had no idea. Wow.



My carseat does hold up to 60... or maybe 80? lbs. But it converts to a booster. As long as she fits in the harness, it should be safe I would think.
If you are in Canada, they are required. If you are in the US, they are very strongly advised. Read you manual, but the "100 lb limit" is in booster mode. It will only harness to 40 pounds. You absolutely can't use the harness past the 40 pounds.

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With your current seat, you need to take the harness straps out ASAP, since your 4 yo is at the weight limit. I would definitely recommend harnessing past 40 pounds in a higher-weight seat.

As for placement, this is a matter of hot debate among techs. I personally am among the "least protected goes in the middle" camp, in which case your 4yo would be in the middle, since she is FF.
Did I miss something? I didn't see that her car seat was a 40 lb limit?

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What seat is your dd in? Most seats that turn into a booster only harness to 40#. If she's that, she needs to either use the seatbelt and use the seat as a booster or you need to find her a new seat that harnesses past 40# (there are plenty of options now). I would reccomend finding a new seat, but you do what you have to do. If you have to turn it into a booster, she needs to have a lap/shoulder belt so might have to go on the side since I doubt you have lap/shoulder belt in the middle. In that case, baby would go in the middle.

From the sounds of it, your dd needs her seat turned into a booster ASAP!

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Did I miss something? I didn't see that her car seat was a 40 lb limit?
She said it's a combo seat, that converts to a booster. ALL of these seats, with the exception of the Apex and the Nautilus, only harness to 40 pounds.

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If you are in Canada, they are required. If you are in the US, they are very strongly advised. Read you manual, but the "100 lb limit" is in booster mode. It will only harness to 40 pounds. You absolutely can't use the harness past the 40 pounds.
Are you sure?

My car seat manual says you can harness until 48 pounds, and I've seen that you can harness some seats until 65 pounds.

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Um, I have no manual. Loooooong lost.

I see, though, the point about the harness not being strong enough to harness past 40 lbs!! Geez. That's scary. She is right at 40, maybe 39, not 41 even so I feel fine about the harness for now but that is really good information.

I don't really want to get another carseat. It must be safe to have 40lbs+ children in booster seats, no? Since it's legal and all...
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She said it's a combo seat, that converts to a booster. ALL of these seats, with the exception of the Apex and the Nautilus, only harness to 40 pounds.
I have a convertible seat that harnesses to 48 pounds.

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It sounds like your dd needs her seat switched to a booster ASAP. Almost all combo seats (especially if you haven't bought it in the last year) only go to 40# w/ the harness and then you can use them as a booster after that. She will need to be on the side where you have a lap/shoulder belt and then baby can go in the middle. No, neither the booster or the infant seat will need a tether anchor.

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Are you sure?

My car seat manual says you can harness until 48 pounds, and I've seen that you can harness some seats until 65 pounds.
SOME seats, yes. Not combo seats. Canada has different weight limits on some seats.

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Are you sure?

My car seat manual says you can harness until 48 pounds, and I've seen that you can harness some seats until 65 pounds.
I should figure out the brand and look it up on the net. It goes til at least 60 lbs but I don't know what my particular harness would hold up to weight wise.
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I have a convertible seat that harnesses to 48 pounds.
You're in Canada, since OP didn't say we are assuming she's in the US. All but 3? combo seats here harness to only 40#.

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It sounds like your dd needs her seat switched to a booster ASAP. Almost all combo seats (especially if you haven't bought it in the last year) only go to 40# w/ the harness and then you can use them as a booster after that. She will need to be on the side where you have a lap/shoulder belt and then baby can go in the middle. No, neither the booster or the infant seat will need a tether anchor.
OMG this thread is confusing the hell out of me.
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She is in Canada. We live near each other. That's why I mentioned the top tether being the law here.

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I see, though, the point about the harness not being strong enough to harness past 40 lbs!! Geez. That's scary. She is right at 40, maybe 39, not 41 even so I feel fine about the harness for now but that is really good information.

I don't really want to get another carseat. It must be safe to have 40lbs+ children in booster seats, no? Since it's legal and all...
Legal, but definitely not recommended. I would feel MUCH better with that child in booster mode than using the harness past 40 pounds. Where are her shoulders in relation to the top slot?

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You're in Canada, since OP didn't say we are assuming she's in the US. All but 3? combo seats here harness to only 40#.
We're good friends IRL, me and the_lissa. Sorry, that would totally not be obvious from this thread! And my 'banned for being canadian' tag is long gone.

I'm in Canada.
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Hot thread, everyone's posting at the same time.

4 AND 40# is the min reccomended to use a booster w/ a child, but the longer they are harnessed, the safer they are. By 6 a child is more able to w/stand crash forces on their body. My 4.5yo is 41# and still harnessed and will be till at LEAST 6.

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She is in Canada. We live near each other. That's why I mentioned the top tether being the law here.
Thanks for clarifying! Since she didn't state she was in Canada, I just assumed she was in the US.

Now, even in Canada, combo seats do not harness past 40 pounds.

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I have a convertible seat that harnesses to 48 pounds.
That's why I said COMBO seat

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Legal, but definitely not recommended. I would feel MUCH better with that child in booster mode than using the harness past 40 pounds. Where are her shoulders in relation to the top slot?
Um, I have no idea. I can't even guarantee I've moved the straps to the top slot.

Do I get the bad mama of the year award here? :

I don't think much about carseat stuff usually. I just strapped it in, strapped her in, and thought it was safe.

Crap.

Okay: Request from you mamas for safest, non-over-money-spending-due-to-paranoia recommendation? For both my kiddos? What seat, what location, tether straps needed?

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That's why I said COMBO seat
I'm sorry I get combo and convertible confused. I have one seat that goes ff and a booster and one that goes rf and ff. They both harness to 48 pounds.

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Thanks for clarifying! Since she didn't state she was in Canada, I just assumed she was in the US.

Now, even in Canada, combo seats do not harness past 40 pounds.
No true, there are plenty of combo seats in Canada that harness past 40#. I think most go to 47# though, not 48# like the convertibles (don't know why the # difference). The Chase, Generations, and CarGo all harness past 40#.

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Okay, take the seat out of the car and look at the back to see if the harness is in the top slots. The straps must be at or above the shoulder. If your seat is a Eddie Bauer/Dorel/Cosco/Safety 1st seat with the headrest that moves up, you cannot use the top slots in harness mode.

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No true, there are plenty of combo seats in Canada that harness past 40#. I think most go to 47# though, not 48# like the convertibles (don't know why the # difference). The Chase, Generations, and CarGo all harness past 40#.
No way! I didn't know that. I stand corrected! I'll step out now since you've got it covered

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What car do you have, year and make? Go to your car and find out what carseat you have for your odd? What seat are you using for the baby?

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Okay, gonna go look, hang on, brb...
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