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#1 of 46 Old 03-02-2008, 11:18 AM - Thread Starter
 
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. . .and here is why. We had two in the rear (third row) bench of our Dodge Grand Caravan ('03). They fit fine in the width (we lost the middle seat), but there was NO leg room for my petite 6 yo-- she had to bend her feet to sit in the seat, and even my almost (small) 3 yo had problems.

So, just a PSA-- if you measure to see if this seat will fit and you have minimal leg room like we do, this is something to keep in mind!

And now we have to try to find another seat!!!!

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I think you posted what van you had after you ordered them b/c I remember thinking 'oh, I hope they fit'. That's why I will never have a Regent in my van, it left mere inches between the Regent and the seat in front of it in my Caravan too. Sorry!

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Thanks!! You'd think with such a big car this would not be an issue!

What car seat DOES fit in your car in that third row? Next on my list is a Radian 65 or 80.

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I'm thinking of getting a Regent, but I have a Toyota Sienna. Do you think it would fit in there?
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There was no space for legs back when we tried fitting the Husky in our truck. It's not just a big seat in width, but also in depth. We are planning on the Graco Nautilus for our big 2 year old. I think it's still only available at Walmart, but hopefully it will be other places soon. It has harness straps close to those of the Regent and should fit in your vehicle much better.

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Today is the last day of the Britax sale, so I need to figure out the Regent issue.
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We have a Radian 65 in the middle of our back row no problems. The Regent has been the only seat we've tried that we had a problem w/. It really wasn't a problem b/c AJ just kept his legs off to the side or in the seat, but I'm not sure he'd want to do that at age 8 or so. I would try the Nautilus.

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We have a Radian 65 in the middle of our back row no problems. The Regent has been the only seat we've tried that we had a problem w/. It really wasn't a problem b/c AJ just kept his legs off to the side or in the seat, but I'm not sure he'd want to do that at age 8 or so. I would try the Nautilus.
Do you think the Nautilus is better than the Radian? I like the price more!!

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Today is the last day of the Britax sale, so I need to figure out the Regent issue.
I have no idea-- thought it would fit in mine! Can you try it in a local store? I think Elitecarseats.com has a lot of measurements (I did not measure) . . .you could measure, measure, measure first.

If you are in IL, come try mine! (Oops-- saw you are in CA!)

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Do you think the Nautilus is better than the Radian? I like the price more!!
I have limited experience w/ it as I've only played w/ it at Wal-Mart, lol. AJ is just under the 3rd set of slots on the Nautilus though when he's on the top slots of his Radian w/ only about 1.5" left before he'd outgrow it. A good friend of mine has had one for about 2 wks now and she really likes hers, the seat will probably expire before her son even outgrows the harness though, he's tiny like Evan.

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We have two Regents in the back row of our Dodge 2000 GrandCaravan and IMO there is plenty of leg room . Have you made sure your rear seat is all the way back, (there are 2-3? settings)?

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We have two Regents in the back row of our Dodge 2000 GrandCaravan and IMO there is plenty of leg room . Have you made sure your rear seat is all the way back, (there are 2-3? settings)?
Seriously??? Maybe the 2000 was bigger? Do you have captain chairs in the 2nd row? (We have a bench.) I checked- ours is on the "normal seating" setting allowing for the most room already. Too bad! It's OK for our toddler (just OK) but definitely not for my 44 inch 6 yo.

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I'm thinking of getting a Regent, but I have a Toyota Sienna. Do you think it would fit in there?
I have a Regent in the 3rd row of my '06 Sienna, DD1 is all legs and she has more then enough room.

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Seriously??? Maybe the 2000 was bigger? Do you have captain chairs in the 2nd row? (We have a bench.)
Mizelenius, we also have a bench in the 2nd row. I measured the length from where the Regent sticks out to the back of the seat in fromt, for you. The Regent, using the SBP plus RB for my almost 6 yr old, does not overlap at all, so there is 11" leg room. The other seat, (LBP plus RB for my almost 8 year old), overlaps an inch, which gives her 10" of leg room. I do not think that the 2000 model was any bigger. The only other thing I can think of is that the 2nd row bench seat is tilted back too far?

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Mizelenius, we also have a bench in the 2nd row. I measured the length from where the Regent sticks out to the back of the seat in fromt, for you. The Regent, using the SBP plus RB for my almost 6 yr old, does not overlap at all, so there is 11" leg room. The other seat, (LBP plus RB for my almost 8 year old), overlaps an inch, which gives her 10" of leg room. I do not think that the 2000 model was any bigger. The only other thing I can think of is that the 2nd row bench seat is tilted back too far?

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This is interesting! I don't know how DH installed the seats, but they overlapped a lot, which is what caused the problem. Do you think it is improper installation?

ETA: And THANK YOU so much for measuring the seats!!! You are so sweet!!!!

OK . . .we just measured. WITHOUT the recline bar, the seats would fit perfectly (18 inches, which is how big our seat is). With the recline bar, it's 23 inches.

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Eek.. we just ordered the Regent. I hope it fits ok..

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Do you think it is improper installation?
I would say possibly, if it weren't for the fact that from my experience, I cannot imagine it being possible to get the seatbelt in the 3rd row to reach the belt buckle and actually click in, unless the Regent is man-handled and pushed back and down with all one's strength, (it really is a monster of a seat ), which would mean a really tight fit. I am using the RB so that actually makes it more likely for the seat to overlap.

It's all very odd and wish I could be of some help.

ETA: I just read your ETA, and wanted to emphasize that when reinstalling the seat, be sure to really shove that monster with the RB attached, into the back of the seat and push down into the bottom of the seat, (does that make sense?), at the same time, before clicking in the seatbelt.

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I would say possibly, if it weren't for the fact that from my experience, I cannot imagine it being possible to get the seatbelt in the 3rd row to reach the belt buckle and actually click in, unless the Regent is man-handled and pushed back and down with all one's strength, (it really is a monster of a seat ), which would mean a really tight fit. I am using the RB so that actually makes it more likely for the seat to overlap.

It's all very odd and wish I could be of some help.
I think your seat is just wider. We measured our seats (Regent and van seat) and our van seat is only 18 inches-- period-- and the Regent is 23 inches. We have the same amount of foot space between the 3rd and 2nd bench as you (11 inches), but that would mean the Regent would have to overlap by 5 inches. I guess they made benches bigger in 2000!

I checked on the Radian and it is only 17 inches, so I think that would work.

ETA: Oops, I was wrong-- it is 21.5 inches. So, 3.5 inches overlap. Are you pushing the RB through the seat or is it resting on the back?

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I just measured the van seat width and it is 18.5 inches, like yours. It must be a case of installation - push that sucker hard

The RB is pushed in enough so that it won't jiggle and fall out easily, (on carseat.org some techs mentioned having to hammer it a little in order for it to stay in, so that is what I did too). It is worth working on the installation issues, because it truly is a great seat. We have two Radians also BTW, (RF for my 3 yr old), and I love that too, although I have yet to use it FF.

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This is what it looks like when a Regent is intalled in an 06 Caravan. The front bench is not reclined at all and the back bench only has one seating position. The Caravan is not quite as long as the Grand Caravan.
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I just measured the van seat width and it is 18.5 inches, like yours. It must be a case of installation - push that sucker hard

The RB is pushed in enough so that it won't jiggle and fall out easily, (on carseat.org some techs mentioned having to hammer it a little in order for it to stay in, so that is what I did too). It is worth working on the installation issues, because it truly is a great seat. We have two Radians also BTW, (RF for my 3 yr old), and I love that too, although I have yet to use it FF.
Thank you for measuring!!!!


I just don't get it, though- if the seat is 21.5 and your bench is only 18.5, how can you not have an overlap unless the RB goes through the crevice between the two seats? When you say to push it in, how can you push it in past where no seat exists? It doesn't seem physically possible. I am so confused!

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This is what it looks like when a Regent is intalled in an 06 Caravan. The front bench is not reclined at all and the back bench only has one seating position. The Caravan is not quite as long as the Grand Caravan.
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I see that seat is overlapping-- that is what ours looks like. No room for feet!

ETA: Just did a search on carseat.org on this topic-- seems others have this same issue. I guess where you get the extra inches is by compressing the bench seat? Is that right? I told DH about this, so he will try it again.

THANK YOU so much. I hope, hope, hope this works.

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My DH is trying to install the seats right now. Here is the problem-- we can get the seat shoved back far enough so that it does not hang over, but we can't get it to STAY that way. As soon as you move it, it slides right back to the hanging over position.

Any ideas??? I really don't want to return these!!!

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Shove your knee into the seat and tighten it and lock it and all before you take your knee out. That's what I have to do with our Marathon.
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Shove your knee into the seat and tighten it and lock it and all before you take your knee out. That's what I have to do with our Marathon.
DH says he can't tighten it anymore than he is (we are not using the LATCH if that makes a dif). He says he is having luck installing them right now by reclining the seats . . .

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Sorry I didn't follow up, (I only just received word that there were more posts). A belated YES about pushing the Regent so hard that the RB compresses into the back of the van seat .

I don't want to rain on your parade, but for safety reasons, do not leave the van seat reclined after installing the Regents. If you/DH is reclining it just to get a tight install and then once installed, you unrecline it, then that is okay, (and incidentally makes for a super tight install I have heard )

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Sorry I didn't follow up, (I only just received word that there were more posts). A belated YES about pushing the Regent so hard that the RB compresses into the back of the van seat .

I don't want to rain on your parade, but for safety reasons, do not leave the van seat reclined after installing the Regents. If you/DH is reclining it just to get a tight install and then once installed, you unrecline it, then that is okay, (and incidentally makes for a super tight install I have heard )

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Thank you!!! He is not going to leave them reclined . . .looks like he will have to completely them out again, reinstall, and then it will be good . . .we can't get them in the correct upright position otherwise.

Thank you SO MUCH for all the info. Had it not been for your post, we would have sent those seats back, lost $, and then had to find new seats that might not have been as good. You do not even know how much time and money you saved me!!!!!! I so appreciate everything!

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I'm so glad! I appreciate your appreciation

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Well, DH has given up. He just can't get the seats upright enough after reclining the bench because the recline bar is going in between the seats. Like I said before, when he is able to get the seats in using compression, he cannot get the seats to stay in that position-- they pop out. He's worked on this for 2 weekends now for several hours each time . . .it shouldn't be THIS HARD to get car seats in, should it? He would love to know what he's doing wrong, but he's done now.

Oh well. It was a good try, and I appreciate the help!!!

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Have you checked to see if there is a car seat tech or car seat check up near you? You can look up seat check locations at http://www.seatcheck.org/ I'm not sure if there is any place else to see if there is a tech local to you that might be able to help.

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ITA w/ the pp about finding a tech. They have one at our local Health Dept. that will help w/ installation issues. I hope it works out, I am reading this thread really carefully as I have an 08 Grand Caravan and have been considering getting a Regent for DD!!
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