You know, the more I think about it, the more I think I'd do it- IF someone else prepared it for me in the pill form. That doesn't seem nasty at all. But, I can't really see that happening. My DH totally understands the benefits, but can't help but feel incredibly sqeamish about the fact you are ingesting a human body part-we are technically talking cannabalism here, afterall. I just don't think I can ask that of him. We're not talking about a dude with a strong stomach here.
I didn't have PPD last time, but I suffer from depression on a daily basis and still take Zoloft for it. I wouldn't be able to get out of bed otherwise! So it couldn't hurt as an insurance policy...
just to save confusion, it's Aviva Jill Romm. i just went nuts looking for ava romm, etc., and finally found it's Aviva. no biggie, but just saving any fellow googlers the confusion.
I guess I could have waddled over to my bookshelf and looked up the proper spelling, but no, had to rely on the fading memory again!
I did want to throw in... I'm planning an HBAC, so this won't apply to me... but if you are delivering in a hospital with a burn unit or one who is affiliated with one, you may want to inquire about your placenta being used there. They can make some kind of medicine for burn victims out of it. I think that would be an awesome way to utilize a special piece of you and your baby... to help another.
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I did last time. We dehydrated it and made "Power" Pills (ground it up to a powder and filled capsules). Dh called them my p pills or power pills because my parents would have freaked if they knew what I had placed in their fridge (we visited them for the holidays and I was still taking them). I really think it helped me recover a lot faster and probably prevented ppd (which I fully expected to set in, considering dh lost his job just a week and a half after ds was born and our lives sort of were in a downward spiral for a bit). I'd like to work up the courage to actually eat it this time as I know how incredibly powerful it is. Not sure if I'll do a smoothie or cook it (I've heard that smoothies are the way to go. You can actually feel all the energy you used up during birth come back in your body). I'm going to need all the help I can get once this one is earthside!!! I can hardly keep up with my boys right now I can't imagine what it's going to be like once there are three kids under my care... I only have **TWO** hands!:
I plan to look into further. I am curious if dehydrating it eliminates the effectiveness, I can't bare to think of eating it in natural form. When you read the article, look at the comments. Apparently some nurses used to fight over it, they would rub it on their hands because it made their skin super smooth.
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i'm now considering consuming a small part raw or in smoothie form and drying the rest. i can't believe the 180 i've done on this this pregnancy. i just don't want to feel like i felt last time ... do you think swallowing a small piece whole will work? i don't want to have to chew it ... that'd send me over the edge.
A note on planting placentas: Be sure you dig a very deep hole and that the roots of whatever you plant don't touch the placenta. It's a very hormonal organ and will kill the plant/tree if it's too close.
and my partner, though 1000% supportive, thinks I am gross. And by that, I mean, he says don't expect him to eat any of it...
But I've been reading up, and the more I read the more I am thinking of eating it. And what's funny is I am vegan but I don't have any qualms about munching down on the placenta, especially with all the touted benefits. Reduce bleeding, help contract the uterus, promote a good milk ejection reflex, etc etc.
The reason I was thinking of a Lotus birth, is more of an emotional healing thing since my son's birth went so out of control (Managed "Vaginal" delivery in a hospital )
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From what I've read the benefits of eating the placenta are to prevent hemorrhaging and ppd- right? Neither are a concern for me so I think the lotus birth makes more sense for us. I was all about considering consuming the placenta but I don't think I need those *benefits*- make sense?
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This time around I'm honestly considering saving it and consuming it.
I haven't yet decided what form that might take. Could do a smoothie for right after the birth and then might dry and encapsulate the rest.
I just hear so many stories of BTDT mamas who did consume the placenta and had fewer postpartum issues with energy, hormones, etc.
So far, there are no cures for these diseases because of the revolutionary nature of the infecting agent: the prion (it is mostly protein - some say all protein, but it is able to duplicate so scientists wonder if it might contain an undetectable trace of nucleic acid). TSE's are brain matter deteriorative and cognition degenerative diseases. Autopsies of people and animals infected with these diseases show brain matter with holes burrowed through it (this is where the term spongiform comes from - like sponge). The prognosis is always escalating cognitive dysfunction ending in death.
There is some speculation as to how these diseases originated. No one really knows. Some think they may be linked to a genetic mutation long ago. But the fact that it is exhibited in multiple species makes a genetic mutative link less plausible. What IS a definite connecting factor as to the occurrence and spread of these diseases across multiple species, is the existence of some form of cannibalistic practice in each species individually. For all researchers know, the first occurrence could have originated from the practice of placentophagy. There's just no way to know.
The prion disease Kuru is thought to have originated in Papua New Guinea among tribes who ritually ate the brains of their deceased but since the bovine variant of the diseases became widely studied, it was found that infection can be passed through eating blood, marrow, blood meal, and other parts of the body.
For me personally, for those reasons, cannibalism is just not something I want to mess around with, regardless of what temporary benefits the practice may offer.
I'm vegetarian, but refusing to eat the placenta doesn't come from an ethical standpoint for me; it comes from an "ew, gross!" standpoint for me. I can't even look at pictures of placentas, and this freaking placenta made me so effing sick for the first 13 weeks while I was growing it, that I really just want it completely out of me, no matter what.
Now if hubby gets all sentimental about the placenta (which I can't imagine) and wants to slap it in a tupperware, take it home, and plant it in the yard, that's okay by me. But that is where my relationship with this organ ends.
When I first came across the 'eating placenta' concept on MDC, I came very close to throwing up (first trimester, in my defense!). I told DH about it, in a 'You wouldn't BELIEVE what some wacky people do!' kind of way, and to my surprise he said 'Oh, well, that's kinda gross, but you are prone to depression... why not?' It took me a while to get from the 'I wish I could' stage to the 'Actually, I think I'm gonna do this!' stage, but here I am. I really doubt I'll be able to eat it--I wish I had the oomph for at least one smoothie, but I have grave doubts on the matter. But in capsule form? I don't find that particularly gross.
DH did blanch a little when I told him we'd have to do it ourselves, as nobody in my city does that kind of thing (AFAIK). But to his eternal credit, he gulped and said 'Well sweetie, if you give me instructions...' Truly, a man worth his weight in gold.
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Thanks for this..very informative. I could see how it would be a concern if you were eating random placenta from someone else...But how would it work exactly eating your OWN?
The deciding factor for me, is the fact that to my knowledge individuals of a particular species are not designed to consume themselves or others of the same species - and the existence of TSE's (and the fact that they share cannibalism in common) is proof of that. The risk factor that seems to be common across the board is that the amount of genetic variation between the individual consuming and the individual consumed must be small (i.e., the same species) - which is why there aren't reports of the diseases jumping across species barriers unless the individual consumed is already infected, while the origination of the disease within a species is sporadic, unexplained, and only solidly linked to the incidence of cannibalism.
It is also quite disturbing that the diseases have only yet been seen in mammals. One distinctive characteristic that most mammals share, is the utilization of a placenta in ontogeny.
By the same token though, the placenta is formed of the same sperm and egg that form the fetus, so if genetic variation is a significant risk increasing factor, then there may be just enough variation (because of the genetic component formed of the sperm cell) to increase the risk. It would be roughly the genetic equivalent to eating the embryo - who is genetically, a completely separate individual.
Additionally, if by chance genetic variation does increase risk, then I would be less likely to offer it to my husband, siblings, or friends.
Originally Posted by nikag
The deciding factor for me, is the fact that to my knowledge individuals of a particular species are not designed to consume themselves or others of the same species
But mammals are a relatively recent addition to the world species population in terms of evolution. I don't know how long mammals have been practicing placentophagy, but I wonder how and if it corresponds with the incidence of TSE's.
The first known (18th century) form of TSE is scrapie, which is the varient of the disease that affects sheep - exclusively herbivorous mammals except perhaps, for the practice of placentophagy.