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#121 of 147 Old 06-07-2008, 09:27 PM
 
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Hi guys! Let me tell you how happy I am to be back on the board (and on this side of the line). Can't wait to catch up on how you all are doing.

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Shauna, you might want to read these two links from Kellymom:
Thanks! The tap analogy was really good. I have been doing some block feeding for a while now...started out with just offering the same breast twice at each feeding (so nurse till he stops, about 10 minutes, burp him and then back on same breast again) and today I Blocked a little more during the day and offered only the right breast for the whole late afternoon/early evening ( his fussy period). He has been much less fussy this evening, and was breaking the seal less, too, so I think it is working! I am going to do this every evening from now on. In the daytimes I don't find him as gassy so I will probably keep up with something similar to what I've already been doing.

Also today, I finally listened to my midwife's advice and tried (on purpose in the morning, just by circumstance in the afternoon) to space out his feedings just a little (he often eats every 1 to 1.5 hours). It seemed to help...he seemed happy and I find it a little easier on my nipples - I think in a sense I sometimes almost force feed him because I offer the boob every time he cries, and he nurses and gets mad about it (hmm, doesn't want to comfort nurse - another sign of forceful letdown! DS1 was the exact same)
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Shauna, glad to hear it seems to be helping. The jury is still out here.

May have gotten our first real smile today. I was tickling her and she had what looked like a big grin (open mouth) ... three of 'em. Very cute! It's neat that she's finally waking up and more alert and interactive. Although I'm thinking of taking back my statement about Sophie not needing to be in arms. She still sleeps well on her own, but when she's awake, she definitely prefers being held. I can set her down, but only some of the time, and never for more than 10 or 15 minutes. I dunno. I think it would be kind of weird if a baby was content just sitting by themselves (awake) for huge chunks of time. Reading the Continuum Concept really helped me understand that they're supposed to be integrated into our daily lives ... in arms, just watching what we do. Now that is admittedly a heck of a lot easier when you live in a tribe in the forest surrounded by family instead of in a single-family home in the suburbs all by yourself while your partner (assuming you have one) goes off to work all day . But babies haven't gotten the memo on that one .

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Things are going ok around here. Nursing Toby any time between 11pm and 1am, though, is a NIGHTMARE. Every night I end up in tears, Keith gets incredibly snappy and frustrated, and Toby is screaming in arms. He just HATES latching on, and won't even let us lay him down to nurse. Otherwise, it's a bit of a struggle but not impossible, and the good news is that my milk is officially in. My nipples do feel like they're going to fall off, though. Hope that goes away.

I'm getting better at moving, though it's still painful. So happy to be home where I can use my sling (which keeps Toby off my incision - yay!) and my cloth pads. It's also fun to see our cats reacting to Toby. As long as he's not screaming, they're pretty good and just sit and stare at him.

Anyone have any tips for not waking up in a puddle of your own milk? I wear shells during the day, so that's not a problem. But when I sleep, I've been waking up soaking wet through my nursing pad. Do you think it's because I've switched to block nursing to save my nipples?

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Anyone have any tips for not waking up in a puddle of your own milk? I wear shells during the day, so that's not a problem. But when I sleep, I've been waking up soaking wet through my nursing pad. Do you think it's because I've switched to block nursing to save my nipples?
Sorry to hear about the nursing woes . My mw recommended LilyPadz for nighttime leaking, but then my supply regulated and I stopped leaking (for the most part, anyway), so I never tried them. I was surprised because I think I was still leaking after a year with dd. Pleasantly surprised .

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Anyone have any tips for not waking up in a puddle of your own milk? I wear shells during the day, so that's not a problem. But when I sleep, I've been waking up soaking wet through my nursing pad. Do you think it's because I've switched to block nursing to save my nipples?
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Prefolds. In your shirt. SOOO sexy... but works like a charm for the pouring milk of the early days

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that's what i did, under a loose sports bra (too tight made engorgement worse). things settled down quite a bit after two weeks, and sposie nursing pads are now enough (i still soak cloth ones at night)
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I have to admit, I'm jealous when I see some mamas post about oversupply and leaking. I rarely have any leakage, even at letdown

I guess it wouldn't bother me if I thought that ds was getting enough. He can nurse for an hour straight and as soon as he's off, he acts like he's starving. I even broke down and gave him a bottle and he's satisfied for about a half an hour but then he acts hungry again.

Now, having said that, I know he's getting something because this kids pees like nothing I have ever seen. He's constantly soaked. Problem is, he only poops every 1.5 - 2 days BUT when he does, it's seedy, like bf babies are supposed to have but it's also green from the little bit of formula that he's getting.

I nurse on demand and don't adhere to any schedules. I know the small amount of ick that I give him *might* affect my supply but I really hate that idea that he could still be hungry.

Other than that, I'm feeling a little blue. I wanted to strangle dh last night. He was walking through the kitchen and whacked LO right into the microwave door. Then he got mad at me for taking the baby from him, says I don't trust him. (well, duh, you just whacked the baby in the head). Right after that, I got all teary, convinced that something bad was going to happen to the baby. But that's because I have had the past few weeks from hell. Started with ds#1 getting a staph infection, gave that to ds#2, so we had to treat that, and be SUPER diligent with washing and cleaning. Ds#1 decides at age 10, that school work isn't really his bag and has opted not to do his classwork. THEN, 5 days ago, he had a really nasty thunderstorm. The baby had been asleep for a long time and I needed to feed him so I went to get him out of bed, I pulled the blanket off of him and there's a damn scorpion, not 2 inches from him. I freaked, I have a very deep seated fear of these things and there's one on my baby!!! DH killed it, and I had him go check on ds#2 and there was one in his room too!! I got the kids together and went to my moms at 11 at night. Next day, we come home, only to have the electric go out for 4 hours. Come to find out, the a/c tripped the main and the wires fried. It took 3 days to get someone to fix it, so today is my first day home. Luckily, my mom lives 30 miles away...phew.

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: I don't wear any clothes to sleep, it's just easier to have the boob ready & waiting

I also will take 2 burp cloths to bed and just throw them over the other side and let them catch any leaks
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But that's because I have had the past few weeks from hell.
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you DO need a break Snazzy!

the hunger thing is normal IMO. My lil giuy is doing that and I know it's not supply-related. He thinks he should be hooked on the boob 24/7.
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I press on the non-nursing boob while nursing and this stops the letdown so no leaking.

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Snazzy, that sounds awful.

These shells rock! I just got two full feedings of bm from what the shell collected leaking out the other boob while I was nursing Toby on one.

Thanks for all the tips. I'll totally do the prefolds tonight.

How cute is this? DH just informed me that he loves Thirsties fitteds the best in our variety of diapers and raved for like 5 minutes about them.

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I have to admit, I'm jealous when I see some mamas post about oversupply and leaking. I rarely have any leakage, even at letdown
me neither and i feel a bit jealous too!

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I guess it wouldn't bother me if I thought that ds was getting enough. He can nurse for an hour straight and as soon as he's off, he acts like he's starving. I even broke down and gave him a bottle and he's satisfied for about a half an hour but then he acts hungry again.
mine does this too... i dont think its an indication of low supply though, i thiunk they nurse a LOT for comfort, not just for hunger, yk? so just because he wants back on the boob doesn't mean he is hungry. i feel confident that my supply is fine, and my DD is gaining weight quickly, but she looooves to comfort nurse.

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Now, having said that, I know he's getting something because this kids pees like nothing I have ever seen. He's constantly soaked. Problem is, he only poops every 1.5 - 2 days BUT when he does, it's seedy, like bf babies are supposed to have but it's also green from the little bit of formula that he's getting.
mine only poops every few days as well... lots of pees, and gaining weight on schedule are signs they are getting enough. is your son gaining?

honestly it sounds like he is fine, if he is gaining, wanting to nurse all the time and you not spraying or leaking are NOT signs of low supply. i would seriously consider ditching the formula honestly, and go back to nursing exclusively. your babe sounds like mine, and if you ask around about babes who nurse all the time i bet you'll find a lot of other mamas in the same boat.
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Hi all! I've not really been on MDC a lot lately, but I lurk here and there when I can.

Our babe is 3 weeks, 2 days old now. She's doing so well, and is a sweet little girl. She does great at night, and typically sleeps from 9 to 1/1:30, then again until 3:30, and then again until 5:30/6:00 when it is time for us to wake up. So, I'm only waking about twice a night, which is great. She is starting to be more alert during the day too.

No sign of colic or anything like that (thank God, since I dealt with that with DS when he was a babe). She was really fussy for a couple of nights, but it was gas and probably due to my eating spicy enchiladas. Oops.

I'm feeling really really good. I've stopped bleeding and feel good physically and emotionally. I get tired in the afternoons and try to nap when I can, but that is hard with a 2 year old. DS is doing really well and loves his baby sister. We're just dealing with typical 2 year old behavior and testing of limits ... which is a bit difficult when we somewhat sleep deprived.

but all in all things are great. I am blessed.

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Well kaden is one week old today. this weekend was kind of hard DH had drill for the national guard so he left friday morning and gets back this afternoon. first few days PP i was struggling alittle with the hormones but they seem to be leveling out. I have already lost 27 lbs... not trying.. and i am back into my pre preggo pants... kaden nurses like a champ. I have been cosleeping with him but been working on transitioning him to the bassinette next to our bed. Its just so easy to have him lay next to me and just nurse. but we dont want to cosleep as a permanent thing. and this will be easier once ronnie is back. i cant stop just watching him he is so adorable. but he is a very calm and content litle guy and i am very grateful for this. NAK

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I think we had our first awake smile here today! Poppy's nappy leaked wee all over Dh and he was looking at her laughing about it, and all of a sudden her face lit up with this fantastic grin Ahh i am so in love. Nursing is going great here, i dont know why we have had no problems, it kind of makes me paranoid, like there must be a huge problem just around the corner, i didnt even get much engorgement, and no nipple pain. She is definatly getting enough though, lots of wet and pooie nappies. I do wonder if she is getting enough hind milk, her poos are quite runny, but mustard yellow, not very seedy.

I cant believe she is already 2 weeks, she has already lost that magical newness, i find myself spending hours just looking at her. I dont want to miss a second, it is already sliping away from me and i know i will never get this time back with her.

I am healing well the bleeding haslmost stoped, and my stitches and hemeroids are healing, the weird flap of skin that i had to have stitched didnt take, it died, yuck. so i cut it off, but everything is better now its gone. i seriously cant wait to get the stitches out. I still have a bit of a sore stomach, it feels like i did a few too many sit ups. sorry for the long post nak
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: I don't wear any clothes to sleep, it's just easier to have the boob ready & waiting

I also will take 2 burp cloths to bed and just throw them over the other side and let them catch any leaks
Same here...I let my boobies air at night and keep a washcloth nearby to cover the opposing bob when I feed off another one. I need bra and pad relief at least once for the day darn it.

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Christine, how are you feeling? Still a lot of pain?

I'm a bit frustrated. I had dh check me out the other night and apparently I did tear. Right on my scar from dd1. I posted in birth professionals about it and got one response there, but several pm's. Apparently it's really too late to be sewn up and could require surgery. My midwife has not been returning my phone calls. She hasn't been very much since I gave birth. It's like the care has completely changed. I don't even know what I'm supposed to do now.

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I keep a flannel blanket nearby for the non-nursed breast. I've gotten to the spraying stage.

Seren, I am still in tons of pain. Not so much my tear (apparently I'm really lucky to have had a doc who sewed it up well!) but my hips, pelvis, lower back and pubic bone.

wow! I can't believe she's not returning your calls! Do you have a regular OB you can see about it? that sounds painful! I'd probably want it dealt with sooner rather than later, personally speaking. get all the healing over with at once KWIM?
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Seren, is it enough of a tear you feel it's requiring attention? With dd I had a skid-mark, which I could have gotten a stitch or two to fix but never really felt the need. if the tear i got this time around had not continued bleeding, I wouldn't have gotten stitches this time either.
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Dh says it's about an inch long.

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Serenity, my mw advised against stitching my tear because it came together nicely when my legs were together. So if I just kept my legs together long enough for the skin to heal enough to attach, then it would be fine. So (speaking as a total layperson here) I think the two issues for you to consider are:

1) Does the tear come together on its own when you have your legs together? (dh can tell you this)
2) Is it too late for it to heal in that position on its own?

I think the second issue is the one that might be the stickiest. Did anyone on the birth professionals forum comment on that aspect?

I'm sorry to hear you are not getting the support you need from your mw .

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Well, last night Toby drew blood on both nipples. I was almost screaming, and my parents sleeping in the next room was the only thing that stopped me. We called our LC, left a message, and dropper fed him until morning, when she called back. She said to pump and dropper feed until she gets here at 5:30 (thank the L-rd!!!) and we'll see what's going on. Her hypothesis: I have a HUGE nipple. Tiny areolas. We knew that going in. He has a tiny mouth. She thinks that since my nipples are becoming ellipsoid when I nurse, maybe the nipple itself is just too big for him to nurse properly at this point. She's bringing a hospital-grade pump for me, and thinks we may end up pumping for a while, until he gets bigger.

Will update later.

In happier news, anyone need milk? I've soaked through every bra, every nursing pad, and every prefold diaper in this house. We can feed the third world on what's just leaking from these boobies! Will mail to all 50 states.

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Serenity, my mw advised against stitching my tear because it came together nicely when my legs were together. So if I just kept my legs together long enough for the skin to heal enough to attach, then it would be fine. So (speaking as a total layperson here) I think the two issues for you to consider are:

1) Does the tear come together on its own when you have your legs together? (dh can tell you this)
2) Is it too late for it to heal in that position on its own?

I think the second issue is the one that might be the stickiest. Did anyone on the birth professionals forum comment on that aspect?

I'm sorry to hear you are not getting the support you need from your mw .

I'm not sure if it all comes together or not. Dh is already gone for the night. I did finally get a hold of my midwife and see her tomorrow afternoon.

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