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View Poll Results: Are you doing the erythromycin eye ointment?
Yes...right after the birth 5 6.41%
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#1 of 42 Old 08-15-2008, 10:24 PM - Thread Starter
 
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#2 Are you doing the erythromycin eye ointment after birth for baby?
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No, I am not. I don't see the point, as I do not have the STD's that would cause the blindness or problems.
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I'm not sure- we did it w/ds, as we were told it was mainly to protect him from "hospital bacteria" (they screen for STD's during prenatal care, and I have none)- but this time I don't think I buy that logic. I want to get my m/w's views on it during our next appt., but at this point I'm leaning towards no.

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No I think it interferes with bonding and is unnecessary.

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NO! There is no reason to here.
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The eye ointment is for protection against STD's. My husband and I are monogamous and do not have any infections.
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Does anyone know the protocol for refusing the eye treatment? I have read that in some states they will call CPS if you refuse it! Is it 'mandatory' in every state?

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We're not doing it. I've heard of CPS being called in New York. I think that's ridiculous, since there's no reason to do it if you don't have gonorrhea or chlamydia.

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no way. ive never had an std and id rather my baby not have his eyes all gunked up right when he needs them the most :<
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In our state, it is mandatory that caregivers OFFER the test to you, but it is not mandatory that you ACCEPT it. But sometimes hospital staff seem to not quite get this distinction.

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No, we are not.
We are not doing anything except MAYBE vit K- but that just depends on how the birth goes. We are still in the air about that.

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Does anyone know the protocol for refusing the eye treatment? I have read that in some states they will call CPS if you refuse it! Is it 'mandatory' in every state?
Like a PP said- I dont think it is mandatory- BUT, ask the hospital. We did on our "tour". I asked about everything that was done to a baby once they were born, and what we had to do if we did not want these tests done. Our hospital staff was very understanding and gave us all kinds of info. Basically here in CT, if you do not want it, you do not have to have it. BUT, they do have you sign consent forms etc so you know that you are declining. Also, b/c a lot of this is routine, they also said to be clear when you go in for labor and once baby is born that you do not want these things done- most of the time the nurse just does it automatically b/c it is, unfortunatly, the "norm" and you have to remind them- better yet, put it in your birth plan!

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I don't think it is standard here. The midwife didn't say anything about it when I asked her about all the normal procedures.
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No, no reason to.

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no. i dont have std's and it causes babies not to be able to see for a long time and interferes w/ nursing in many cases. i can see its usefulness in limited circumstances but not for all babies.
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Nope, we're not doing it.
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No, I do not have gonorrhea. And yes, they have to offer it but you have every right to decline, at least in my state.

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I find it kind of troubling that people try to make this into a moral highhorse issue ("Well *****I****** dont have any stds!") I wish we could make our own decisions without saying things that could be hurtful to others.
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I don't see how it is hurtful to say "I do not have an STD". I would totally do the ABX eye-goop if I had or suspected I might have an STD. And I am not judging any mom who wants to do it as a precaution, 'just to be safe', or for any other reason. Why is it morally high-handed to state the reason I choose not to take such a precaution?

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Nevermind. You know, a lot of people who DO opt for it don't believe they have an STD either. I think making this into a "people who have STDs vs those who do not" issue is impolite. That's all.
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Nevermind. You know, a lot of people who DO opt for it don't believe they have an STD either. I think making this into a "people who have STDs vs those who do not" issue is impolite. That's all.
Just curious-- why would someone opt for it (other than not knowing why it was given) if they didn't have any STDs?

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I didnt vote cause its complicated. I didnt for my first 3, I did for Kai because I wasnt sure about his being a preemie and stuff and frankly, without knowing and researching it, I felt uncomfortable making a decision. So I let him have it.

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Some people are inclined to take every precaution recommended by their doctor or the hospital staff. A PP mentioned being told that it protects from 'hospital bacteria' floating around. Some people might choose to do it just in case or simply because it is routinely done. It seems that is the case with most moms, not that they are electing to treat baby's eyes with ABX because they 'know' that in their particular case there is a risk of blindness.

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Just a FYI, I've never heard of this outside of the USA
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We won't do it.

Btw in Germany (at the hospitals my friends and family delivered) they only offer it to mothers who tested positive for STDs. That's standard procedure, to screen and offer in case of a positive test result. I don't think it's offensive, it's way better than putting it in every single baby's eyes just because.
I think anyways antibiotics should only ever be used if necessary, never ever as a precaution. And then people wonder why antibiotics won't work anymore and more and more bacteria become resistant. The overuse is terrible and puts everyone at risk - because treatable bacterial infections can become untreatable, and then we're back at square one.
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We don't plan on doing it.
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Just curious-- why would someone opt for it (other than not knowing why it was given) if they didn't have any STDs?
When I mentioned this to my OB and some others w/ds they warned me about those scary "hospital bacteria" that could cause eye infections in the baby. Maybe I am more jaded now, but I think that say that to try and convince you to do it in case you have an STD and don't know it. Which is kind of insulting IMO, but I guess it happens and they are just trying to protect babies.

I have done more research this time around, and have read medical studies on the issue that conclude that 'if a mother knows she does not have chlamydia or gonorrhea, it is perfectly reasonable that she should refuse the treatment'.

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I won't be doing it. No need.

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I also think that sometimes you can have gonnorhea and not test positive. So you don't necessarily have to have come out positive to take the precaution. Not that I'm advocating for it, but just because someone does do it does not mean that they know that have an STD. Last time I was pregnant I had some light green discharge through the pregnancy...and they could not figure out what it was (this sometimes is associated with gonnorhea, but I did not come out positive). However, I did do the eye ointment just to be on the safe side. I had been a totally monogamous relationship for many, many years...but there's no telling what you may be a carrier for! Not saying to get the ointment...just saying...don't think it is only for people who know they have an STD.
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I find it kind of troubling that people try to make this into a moral highhorse issue ("Well *****I****** dont have any stds!") I wish we could make our own decisions without saying things that could be hurtful to others.

i sure wasnt on any high moral horse....thats what it is to treat...since i KNOW i dont have it, i dont see a point in it. as far as the hospital bacteria floating around, i guess i avoid that too by just avoiding the hospital.
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