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hello mamas:

my little cutie has wonderful "kinky" hair and unfortunately she has been having dandruff lately i dont know where it comes from because there has not been any changes in her haircare.

this is what i do with her curls:

* i wash her hair every 4 weeks with a natural shampoo containing african soap mud (see: http://www.purenature24.com/shop/a18...l-shampoo.html

these are the ingredients of the shampoo: water, sodium laureth sulfate, coco glucoside, hectorite cocamido, propyl betaine, sea salt, mentha viridis, citric acid, limonene)

* i rinse it afterwards with water and organic vinegar in the last step

* i comb it very carefully and then braid the hair into approx. 10 braids

* in the end i put some natural coconut oil on her scalp and into her hair splits/ends

so far we did good with this procedure and she hadn't had problems. though she generally tends to have very dry skin and hair.

do you have an idea what to do about the dandruff? her skalp is itch too.

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are you oiling her hair regularly as a part of regular care. Maybe a few added times a week would be helpful. but i am not sure as you may already be doing this.

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You might want to check www.naturallycurly.com there is so much info on hair with texture and the forums can be very helpful as well.
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I need to know this too. I am in my late 20's and still learning about how to properly care for my hair. I have always had dandruff issues too.
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Are you conditioner washing inbetween shampoos, or just leaving in braids? If I go longer than a few days between wetting/scrubbing my scalp I get dandruff too. www.tightlycurly.com is a good site too.
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I also wanted to add the shampoo you are using may be drying to her hair and scalp as it has SLS in it. You could try looking up the curly girl method...which can be found on the naturally curly website.
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I think that tea tree oil is supposed to have anti-dandruff properties. You might try adding a few drops to the coconut oil.

Your DD's hair sounds similar to my niece's hair. I know my SIL only rarely uses shampoo, but she will "wash" my niece's hair with conditioner in between shampoos (I can't remember how often she uses shampoo, maybe only if her hair is actually dirty, like if she has gotten something in it). It doesn't sound like you are doing this, but if you are, you might try tea tree oil in the conditioner as well (or it might be worth a try).
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thank you all :

well, i never use conditioner. i use vinegar as a natural conditioner and it really makes her hair soft! i dont like those conditioners because they usually contain tons of bad stuff.

and i oil her hair and scalp regularly, and it decreases the dandruff already a little bit, but sometimes it comes back again.

what is SLS?


and what would be the curly girl method...? ok, i will look up at the naturally curly website! thanks....!

do you just leaver your dd's hair "open" once in a while so it can breathe? i think maybe the braiding is too much doing it every week....

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I also wanted to add the shampoo you are using may be drying to her hair and scalp as it has SLS in it. You could try looking up the curly girl method...which can be found on the naturally curly website.

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A few of my friends swear by Carol's Daughter's products. I think you can find them on one of the home shopping sites as well. HSN or QVC

http://www.carolsdaughter.com/category/haircare.do

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Mix olive oil and almond oil and apply it on the babay's scalp 1x a week. I use the edible kind ( kind of has a smell, then spray using organic olive oil hair spray-- found in hair stores>

this formulae is aslo used as a hot oil treatment.
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thank you all :

well, i never use conditioner. i use vinegar as a natural conditioner and it really makes her hair soft! i dont like those conditioners because they usually contain tons of bad stuff.

and i oil her hair and scalp regularly, and it decreases the dandruff already a little bit, but sometimes it comes back again.

what is SLS?


and what would be the curly girl method...? ok, i will look up at the naturally curly website! thanks....!

do you just leaver your dd's hair "open" once in a while so it can breathe? i think maybe the braiding is too much doing it every week....

SLS = sodium laureth sulfate

Curly girl method is based on the book Curly Girl by Lorraine Massey. You can get a very good idea of the method from the naturlly curly website, or you could check it out from the library. She explains why curly headed people should skip the shampoo (at least shampoos with SLS in them) to prevent drying out of the hair and scalp.

I am not sure about letting the hair breathe. I have biracial hair (black/white) and when I was young my mom always kept my hair in pigtails and only took them down to wash, which was at least once a week.
Everyones hair is different but there would be no way I could get away without using conditioner and after a week without washing I start getting flakes.
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Vinegar is not a good conditioner. It's chelating, so great for removing minerals and such, but can be drying if overused. I'd get a good conditioner and use the ACV less often.
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Vinegar is not a good conditioner. It's chelating, so great for removing minerals and such, but can be drying if overused. I'd get a good conditioner and use the ACV less often.
what does chelating mean?

and can you recommend a good (organic) conditioner?

i used california baby's conditioner but it didnt make a difference to her hair at all!

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We use sensitive California Baby products I mix the conditioner with raw shae butter for her curls. I only wash her hair once every couple weeks.

If you use the tea tree oil, only use a drop in the shampoo. Make sure you keep it out of the eyes and do not leave it on the skin.
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You'll definetelly need some kind of conditioner, and I would drop the shampoo, I don't know about organic but Suave has little to non crap in its formula and that is why it's recomended a lot for people who don't shampoo.

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'chelation' means it removes minerals. It does soften hair initially because it strips the minerals left behind by the water. Curly hair still needs some added moisture because it is fragile.


I would get food grade(edible() sweet almond oil and use that. Darker skins can absorb it easily, and it smells good.

I agree possibly wash it every 2 weeks? instead of every 4. and buttermilk, or yogurt can be good conditioners too. The gentle acidity, and cultures will help keep the scalp healthy.

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thanks:

i think i will try a conditioner mixed with shea butter first....

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Are you conditioner washing inbetween shampoos, or just leaving in braids? If I go longer than a few days between wetting/scrubbing my scalp I get dandruff too. www.tightlycurly.com is a good site too.
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www.tightlycurly.com is a good site too.
the website indeed is interesting, thanks:

BUT: did anyone try the method of leaving conditioner in the hair?? i am a little sceptic whether it is really good for the hair to leave the conditioner in it and not to rinse it.....

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the website indeed is interesting, thanks:

BUT: did anyone try the method of leaving conditioner in the hair?? i am a little sceptic whether it is really good for the hair to leave the conditioner in it and not to rinse it.....
Yes, I have before with my older DSD and have tried it this past week with DD. IT works well, once it's dried it holds shape so much better, beautiful little curls. It almost looks like it's got gel or mouse in it or something, but not that glossy shiny crunchy stiffness that comes with styling product. DD is only 15 months, so I'm sure on a longer head of hair the result will be beautiful.

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Thanks for the curly website. I am German and Black but my father is a medium toned black with medium hair and my hair was curly at a younger age and now straight like a white person's now....I think the protein diminishes with age....

My daughter has african hair but is a fragile combination and I really do not like hot ironing it, etc. It damages her hair and I want her to enjoy her hair totally natural.

I tried the mixed chicks hair products and it is very gentle. It does curl the hair more, but it keeps it softer.

Hair care can be complicated and maybe a specialist should evaluate the hair and scalp. Scalps are sensitive too and dandruff is a result of an imbalance and maybe bacterial infections.....That is common in many hair types.
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My son is 1/4 black 3/4 lots of other things (mostly european) and I wash his hair with dr bronners peppermint soap about once or twice a week and use organic shakkaki conditioning rinse in it once a week. I also put coconut oil in it and comb it through at least once a week. He never has dandruff or itchy scalp.

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the website indeed is interesting, thanks:

BUT: did anyone try the method of leaving conditioner in the hair?? i am a little sceptic whether it is really good for the hair to leave the conditioner in it and not to rinse it.....
yep, i can second that the result is wonderful. i shampooed my dd yesterday and followed the instructions and voila! Curly Sue appeared this morning. and she loooooooooooooooooovvvvvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeessssssssssssssssssss it. the instructions were dead on!

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Hair care can be complicated and maybe a specialist should evaluate the hair and scalp. Scalps are sensitive too and dandruff is a result of an imbalance and maybe bacterial infections.....That is common in many hair types.
unfortunately the skalp of my dd got worse again, it itches and is very dry with some dandruff.: so i think i will see a dermatologist next week!

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If its true dandruff its not a matter of dry skin, its actually a fungus of sorts and conditioning wont help, imof it might make it worse since if "moisturizes" the skin a leaves a breeding ground.

You can use tea tree oil, or the vinegar might help, but i would probably see a dermatologist.

Is it dry and flaky or is it more of an oily residue?

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Is it dry and flaky or is it more of an oily residue?
its definitely dry and flaky!

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yep, i can second that the result is wonderful. i shampooed my dd yesterday and followed the instructions and voila! Curly Sue appeared this morning. and she loooooooooooooooooovvvvvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeessssssssssssssssssss it. the instructions were dead on!

but do you think it is good for the hair to leave a cosmetic product for so long in it? arent you afraid that it will damage the hair somehow?

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Thank you all for all the websites!!! I have a half African, half me DD and did not have a clue what I was doing with her hair. Tonight I wet it and conditioned it, left it in and did the little curls like tightlycurled.com said and it is cute! Easy and looks so much better THANK YOU!

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