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#1 of 7 Old 12-02-2003, 02:38 PM - Thread Starter
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I hope I can get help here. I just got back from DS's 18 months check-up. She says that he as phismosis because he foreskin is so tight (little opening also). She told me that at 12 months also. And set up an appt. with a urologist, which I did not go to. I told her today not to touch his penis. She asked if the opening had gotten any bigger I told her no. She asked if the skin moved back when he pees, I said no. She did not argue when I told her not to touch it.

I thought that everything was fine. He has normal wet diapers. I hope I am making the right decision for my son. How can I be sure?
Thanks for any help you can give.
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Good for you for standing your ground mama!

I did a goodle on phismosis and found a message board with some answers. One man says this is normal and that the skin will stretch when retracted. From here(it's the 3rd or 4th reply:
http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-an...?msg_id=007Ihh

From the replies it seems as if this condition is quite common and not a need to do invasive procedures.

Or try these links:

http://www.cirp.org/library/treatment/phimosis/wright

http://www.cirp.org/library/treatmen...osis/jorgensen
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Good for you for standing up to the ped! It sounds like you know more than she does about the intact penis. Bottom line - if she keeps acting like there's a problem, you need a new ped, one who knows something about intact penises. If you really like her, then maybe give her some of the literature referenced below but make sure to tell her she needs to learn about the intact penis so as not to be giving bad medical advice that might open her up to a lawsuit for medical malpractice.

I will bet dollars to doughnuts your son doesn't have phimosis but a perfectly normal intact penis! Their foreskins don't retract at this age and a doctor cannot possibly diagnose phimosis until much later in life.

Come to the board on The Case Against Circumcision (under Health) and run a search on phimosis. Also see this article by Dr. Paul Fleiss and pick up a copy of his book What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Circumcision. Another good resource is the pamphlets at http://www.nocirc.org.

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Moving this to the Circ board. There are LOTS of experts on the intact penis there!

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Hi Bev- This is a very current article that has a great photograph showing a normal tight prepuce and a abnormal tight prepuce... by looking at those pictures, without going to a urologist, you will probably be able to tell if your son has a regular ol'infant's tight prepuce, or if it is possible that he has some unusual condtion that needs treatment. In the very unusal case that he does really have phimosis (I am not going to just pish posh say it can't be so) but if he does really have a unusual condition- there are conservative treatments (not circumcision) , even for BXO, which you can research at the CIRP website.

Good for you for standing your ground mamma bear!

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http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/...w10610_fm.html
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Originally posted by bev

I thought that everything was fine. BEV
I'm sure it is, your son's doc is probably wrong. Please educate her. Print these out and give them to her:

http://www.mothering.com/10-0-0/html...rcson103.shtml

http://www.nocirc.org/publish/4pam.pdf
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Ok, you said your son has phimosis. I should hope so. Because he should at this age. To be more exact, it is called "natural phimosis" which means "contraction of the orifice so that it can not be retracted".

What your doctor does not know is that this is normal and should be left alone. Please print out the following site an hand it to your ped and tell her to read it.

*best AAP site: http://www.cirp.org/library/normal/aap/


In the book from Dr. Fleiss "What your doctor may not tell you about circumcision" it states:

"The fact of the matter is that 'tightness' of the foreskin is a safety mechanism that protects the glans and urethra from direct exposure to contaminants and germs. The 'tighter' foreskin also
keeps the boy's glans warm, clean, and moist. As long as you son can urinate, he is perfectly normal. There is no age by which a child's foreskin must be retractable.
Be on your guard. Never let a doctor or anyone try to retract your child's foreskin. Optimal hygiene of the penis demands that the foreskin of infants and children be left alone. Premature
retraction may tear the skin pf the penis open, causing your child extreme pain. There is no legitimate medical justification for retraction. The childs' discomfort is proof of that."

And now I want to tell you that my grandson's foreskin was so tight, I could not figure out how he could urinate. Thank heavens we left it alone. By the time he was about a year he stated to pull
and twist it around and it apparently stated to loosen but did not retract until he was 5. We NEVER touched it! And he never had any problems with it.
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