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I found this image online, its an image of a young boy being circumcised with a combination of old surgical instruments, and working tools. The worst part is the image is from a stock photo news site, with no mention of the picture in a negative way.

If this is not a human rights violation, I don't know what is:
http://www.daylife.com/photo/06Xc2Sh1Dlgds

Then there is this one from the same site with a boy is crying as adults remove his clothing before he is forcibly circumcised. Again, no negative comments about the image in the description.

http://www.daylife.com/photo/01BW6DF1Ly6GL
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Absolutely disgusting.

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Good God. Is there nothing some people won't justify?!
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I used to work for an Iranian doctor who remembers his own circumcision. (He's an OB, BTW....and he doesn't circ babies).

He said that in his culture, they normally waited until the boys were 6 or 7. The procedure was "easier" that way, since most boys are retracted by then. He said the local barber did the circs, and used a straight razor. Then the boy's penis was wrapped in a towel and he was told to "go play."

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Good God. Is there nothing some people won't justify?!

No doubt. It's heartbreaking, the maternal feelings (mama bear) those pictures invoke is unreal.

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Please put a BIG warning on this post...something like "***WARNING, EXTREMELY DISTURBING***". Thank you.

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Please put a BIG warning on this post...something like "***WARNING, EXTREMELY DISTURBING***". Thank you.
I thought I covered that when I gave a detailed description of the pictures and that it was a "human rights violation". Is that not enough of a warning? Should I add more?
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I am absolutely positively disgusted by circumcision and anyone who performs it or condones it. Horrible and unforgivable.
Bless the sweet dear children who must endure this torture and torment.

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So sick and sad and heartbreaking...unbelievable.
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I thought I covered that when I gave a detailed description of the pictures and that it was a "human rights violation". Is that not enough of a warning? Should I add more?
Yes, really, you should make it very, very clear above the link something like WARNING: EXTREMELY GRAPHIC

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image of a young boy being circumcised with a combination of old surgical instruments, and working tools
as: image of a young boy about to be circumcised with a combination of old surgical instruments, and working tools



Horrible and shameful that these photos don't elicit the response they should throughout the world.

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Oh I think I might pass out.

How on EARTH could someone participate in this?!?!

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Honestly....it's a forum about circumcision. I would assume that any links provided that contain pictures would be graphic and/or possibly disturbing.
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Oh no. I'm not even going to look.
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The fact that she said she posted links to pictures of a circumcision pretty much covers it. We all know circumcision is disturbing. She was very clear, not sure what you all expected when you clicked on those links?
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Oh god, I couldn't even look. My heart breaks for the poor little boy(s) who go through this... And we wonder why men have so many emotional issues.

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So by waiting until they were older and it was retracted...does this affect the pain level?

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The fact that she said she posted links to pictures of a circumcision pretty much covers it. We all know circumcision is disturbing. She was very clear, not sure what you all expected when you clicked on those links?
Thank you. Although I will correct you on one point. I am a guy, not a girl. (A younger circumcised guy if your interesting in details)

ursusarctos- I think of it the other way around. Instead of circumcision being the cause of emotional issues for men, I think circumcision is just another sign of the detached way males are often treated in society. (Like, his body parts have less value and damage to his body is "manly")
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ursusarctos- I think of it the other way around. Instead of circumcision being the cause of emotional issues for men, I think circumcision is just another sign of the detached way males are often treated in society. (Like, his body parts have less value and damage to his body is "manly")
Well, it's a cycle isn't it - circumcision sends that message across loud and clear to the subconscious, I imagine.

That poor child...
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ursusarctos- I think of it the other way around. Instead of circumcision being the cause of emotional issues for men, I think circumcision is just another sign of the detached way males are often treated in society. (Like, his body parts have less value and damage to his body is "manly")
You are absolutely right. I actually meant it as just one of the things that socialize males to numb themselves to everything but aggression and anger - "manliness". This kind of thing is a symptom of underlying, complex, deep-set cultural attitudes/assumptions, a symptom that at the same time helps to perpetuate those attitudes.

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Well, it's a cycle isn't it - circumcision sends that message across loud and clear to the subconscious, I imagine.

That poor child...
Yes.

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So by waiting until they were older and it was retracted...does this affect the pain level?
Well, I think it would. It would be just one cut around to remove the skin. Since the foreskin is already separated, you wouldn't have to peel it from the glans first, so the glans wouldn't be harmed during the actual procedure like it is in an infant.

Either way, it's still awful. But I do think that waiting until retraction is complete is *slightly* more humane.
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it just shows even when a child no matter what age is can say no but no one listens here they are taking away the right of their ways of speech and wants because it's humilating to them to be 'stripped and hurt like that when they are more aware of their body it's like why can't those people see that as human rights being destroyed because the kids can say No, they don't want it but forced to get it - Double wrong !
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How about this one

FGM photo wins photographer an award

http://www.pdnonline.com/pdn/content...5bf4354a?imw=Y

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How about this one

FGM photo wins photographer an award

http://www.pdnonline.com/pdn/content...5bf4354a?imw=Y
:Puke:Puke These pictures are appaling seriously I just want to take these all babies with me and protect them
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I haven't posted on this forum in a long time. I found my way back and came across this thread. I wish more people could see these images and perhaps know/understand/oppose these mutilations (both FGM AND our country's male-circs).

I googled that photographer's name to see the article, and it is so heart wrenching. It is so sad how they decieve the little girls...
This is hard to view the pics and made me cry, but awareness needs to be risen about this practice.
The link to the whole photo-essay is at the bottom of this blog...
http://thetravelphotographer.blogspo...kurdistan.html

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