I have read the first few pages but just wish to say this:
I am one of those sons that some have claimed will forgive you because you "did what you thought was best" and because "you are my mother I will love you no matter what". Let me state this clearly....I DO NOT FORGIVE MY MOTHER. I HATE HER GUTS WITH A PASSION. and I know of others that think this way.
one point that isnt touched on about circumcision(rape and mutilation) topics, is the bond between mother and child. you
see that child is looking very much forward to seeing you. Like all mammals babies that are new born wish to snuggle up to mom and suck on her breasts. in the case of humans they also really want dad to deliever them as well and share a special bonding moment with the two parents before sucking on mom, burping, and passing out. It may not sound like much, but to the newborn infant they are indeed thinking "This is sweet, sweet, heaven on earth. I am in bliss."
this bond however gets shattered when we break from God's(nature's if you prefer), naturally designed system. instead the love the child feels for you because mother and newborn son naturally love each other, is broken. THe baby when mutilated and raped screams "MOTHER WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME????". the bond is then forever broken. you will never in a million years ever love and be loved back by your son the way God and nature intended. you are no longer the guardian angel, you are a guardian devil. You know longer hold your child as he thinks "This is sweet, sweet, heaven on earth. I am in bliss.". no you hold a child that screams up to heaven and cries to a just God "MOTHER WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME???". indeed if there be a just God that rules over all creation, your infant's screams do damn you.
the new bond is one out of a need for survival. you see despite the horrific injury of rape and mutilation....the new born still has a desire to survive. so survive the newborn will at least those that dont die during the raping and mutilating. the ones that survive this monsterous act, will go on to want to survive. they rather than naturally looking forward to mommy and daddy, they will learn to love them to survive. rather than seeing you as the ones that gave me life, i see you as the ones i used to survive. to that end I will coo and ahh with you. I will use you to learn to talk, to walk, and all the other things needed to live. rather than a beacon of love, you are a beacon of a neccessary evil needed to survive.
I do not think you taught me these things because you loved me after all i cried "MOTHER WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME???" to
which you shrugged your shoulders. Even worse, you whispered in my ear, "I do this because I love you" O foolish fool, I
hate to see your enemies. THe one you claim was born perfect and precious, you say that to me daily, yet I was only perfect after you paid a pedophile to have sex with me and scar my manhood for life. So no I stole these things so I could survive because I am a survivor and I will live on, and that sick freak that raped me, will get his due justice, and mother you deserve to rot with him. BUt I cannot be blamed, I never knew a guardian angel as spoken of in all these mother's day cards and songs, no, I only know my guardian devil.
to those sons that do forgive, I merely think they havent completely embraced the evil that was done to them. I Dont think they see it as getting raped and mutilated. I dont think they see it as total betrayal of the sacred bond between mother and child. I think they still see it as society sees it, a choice to be made by the parents. they dont think theyve been raped, they dont think their virginity was taken at a day old, they dont think their first sexual experience was that of a sick perverted baby and doctor bondage scene, but no they still see it innocently as a choice. no there was no choice nor was there ever....unless you consider this a choice "Ma'am and sir, may I take your baby and rape and mutilate him, later on get off on this experience because I am a pedophile? and afterwards Im going to sell his foreskin for a lot of profit too. Oh and Please stick around and buy some lovely anti-aging cream, It is made from your baby's blood, tears, and screams. You see it is a much better use of his forskin." if you consider that a choice, then its a choice. but instead we ask "Are you circumcusing your son?" see how much nicer that sounds? so these forgiving sons still call it circumcision, but I call it the work of a sick pedophile who enjoyed having sex with me as a new born. and I now know when asked by bishops was I abstaining from premarital sex and I said yes....I was lieing for I had already had sex once before a very long time ago.
so no I do not forgive, nor does she deserve it.
and now I know when I do watch porn, why i find bondage so erotic and hot....I am merely reenacting my infancy.
the ones in this thread that deserve it, are those that are truly repentent of it, they have been brought to tears with
Godly sorrow, they seek to change this barbaric act. they learned and are indeed wiser. to you I thank, and your stories have been heart wrenching.
know this...I am that anger that cries out against you for betraying your sons. Even those that are too docile to cry out in anger....For the same reason we cut the balls off of dogs to make them calmer....so the same effect is with humans that lose a part of their manhood. I am that anger that that poor dog who did become tamer and more docile is expressing. I represent it. I am a part of it. I did not become tamer or more docile. I came in touch with an anger that would blow this planet to parts if given the chance. I am wroth with anger. 99% of men that get raped and mutilated and nearly castrated become tame and docile like a good little doggy, I however became feral and wild. I became worse, a thing that is to be feared, much more so than had I been left alone. the world will know my wrath. so yes just because your son forgives, know he is acting no more forgiving than the poor dog who's balls you cut off, he acts docile and tame out of fear for if you cut off his balls he fears what else you may do to him. so it is with your forgiving sons. but I fear you not, and you will know my wrath.
maybe it wont be me personally that gets to you, and though i write it from comfort of the annouymous internet. I swear before I die, the world will hear my scream. Even the scream of all those that like me became feral and wild. FOr I am the
demon that was created in innocence of circumcision, I am now longer human. I am a demon in a huamn's body. I am a half
demon half human monster. I cast off my humanity, I embrace my darkness. I am your precious little baby boy. I am the demon you held in your arms. I stare back at you and reflect your dark heart. I am the eternal wrath and horror and I come for you all.
yet I still have a memory....for but 9-10 months in my mothers womb, and for maybe one or two hours....I was indeed a human. Foolish child, thought his birth was done when he breathed his first breathe of life and cried, o foolish child of two humans, ye did not want a human baby, thus my birth was not done until i met my dear friend Doctor Pedophile. In that moment my humanity died. I became the eternal anger and horror. I became a demon. I became a monster and I am your precious little boy, and I do come at you with the wrath of the souls of the damned. Dear mother, you were my world, and you shattered it. And now your precious little boy is all grown up and can speak unto himself. O wo is you mother for you are the object of my wrath. Wo is you dear mother, You are and always will be my world, and my world knows nothing but evil and now that evil is returned unto you. I return to you now mother with the wrath of hell, of anger, of evil, of demons, it is yours and I am yours and we shall be one.
I am your creation. I am your son. I am your flesh and blood. All that I am is because of you dear mother. All that i will ever be is because of you. I am the very thing your son is to scared to show you, for this is the darkness that lies at his heart.
All men who confront circumcision uncensored, will find this darkness. They will find me, Satan for I am pleased with your actions, and I do wait for them, and you have made them ripe for me. I Satan, did whisper into your ears, and you did give them to me and I have made them my own. Thus saith me, the Devil.
your precious little baby boy.