Thanks for your time.
I am in a house-cleaning frenzy right now so don't have much time to post, but I recommend this link as an easy and fun way to learn about why NOT to circ: http://www.circumstitions.com/Itsaboy.html
HTH, and YAYAY for you and your future sons
~There is NO medical reason to have a baby circumcised.
~The foreskin is being painfully ripped and stolen from newborns and then used for profit!!!
~Complications occurring in a hospital setting has been documented as high as 38%! Complications can include infections, hemorrhage, injury and even in rare cases, amputation and death!
~The foreskin works much the same as our eyelids! It protects the head of the penis! Loss of sensitivity/sexual pleasure is reported by men who were circumcised later in life! Both males and females benefit from the foreskin in many ways!
That is all I have time for...I am sure the ladies will have plenty more to add...the list almost seems endless, kwim?
Articles by Dr. Paul Fleiss
But what it really boils down to for me is this: would you circumcise your daughter? Or yourself? The equivalent surgery would be cutting away the hood that covers the clitoris as well as the labia. Yes, you'd probably still be able to have orgasms....but would it be the same? No. So why would you (speaking generically here) do the same to your son, with or without anesthesia?
Congratulations on your pregnancy, and for having the foresight to research this issue now! Also check out the other fora here on Mothering, there's lots of great support and information.
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The thing that got to me most at the time was the Intact circumcision video. It was filmed just outside of Toronto in 1998. So just a few short years ago. It still chills me to this day to think that I could have unknowingly let that happen to my son.
The thing that struck my dh the most was the rate of circumcision in Canada. It is less than 20%. In my area it is a bit higher, but none the less, the intact status is the majority. Much different than when my dh was born, back then almost everyone was circed. My mil says she doesn't even remember being asked, it was just done.
Anyhow, here is some great info for you, if you have any more spacific questions, feel free to ask, there are a lot of great people on this board.
Risks and Complications,
IntactvsCirced penis care,
Sexual side effects,
Adult circumcision(why not leave it up to him?)
Other great sites for research,
No? None ? Not one other body part? Why not? Just because it would be painful?
My respect for my son's bodily integrity prevented me from circ'ing him.
Everybody does it.
Well, not any more. There will be more intact boys in the US this year and many more in Canada. Only about 15% in Canada will be circumcised in 2004.
Look like Daddy.
Exactly who benefits from that? It's the father so he won't have to confront himself about why he was violated.
Easier to care for
Definitely not for babies and Children. There is far less care for an intact child than a circumcised child. There is basically no difference for an adult.
Circumcised is more hygenic.
Definitely not. The circumcised penis is far more prone to infection as an infant and equal as a child. An intact penis is no less hygenic than a females vulva.
He will be teased.
Definitely not when he is in the vast majority.
More painful as an adult.
That assumes that he will want to be circumcised as an adult. Less than 1% of intact men take this option, thus more than 100 babies endure unspeakable pain to save one adult minimal pain.
Mother prefers a circumcised penis.
This is not about the mother's preferences. This is about the integrity of a man's genitals. If you choose to circumcise, it's only fair that your son have free reign in about 20 years to surgically modify your genitals as he sees fit.
Parents have to make a decision.
Yes and parents have a moral obligation to make decisions that are in the best interest of the child. Making a medical decision that directly contradicts every medical association in the world is irresponsible.
Every argument for circumcision fails. Period! There is not a single one that can be raised that will stand up.
Here are some links to what doctors have to say:
I know you are just about overwhelmed with links and information. If you have specific questions, please ask.
*It's *his* penis, I didn't feel I had the right to remove part of it
*Circ lessens pleasure during intercourse; I really didn't feel I had a right to mess with that
*DS is allowed to look like himself, he doesn't have to look like anyone else be it his father or his class mates; I want to be able to ask "If all your friends jump off a cliff, would you?" and don't think that's possible if I had his foreskin chopped off so he could "fit in"
*God (or evolution if you like) put that skin there and He/it is smarter than me
*It messes with nursing, and that was important to me
*I didn't want to have to deal with an open wound in his diaper (laziness on my part, I admit it)
*There are *NO* benefits to having it done
*The "informational" pamplet I got from the doctors made me mad. It talked about "we thought circ did this good thing, but then we did a study and found out that wasn't true; then we thought it did this... but that wasn't right either; so then we thought maybe it helps in this way, but nope to that one also; so it's just if you feel like it" and I thought, "What the heck! These people are doctors?!?" It was backwards, do the operation then see why it's good. It didn't make any sense.
*I didn't go through 30 hours of labor without pain medication so I could have a healthy, undrugged baby just to drug him up the next day
There are probably more reasons, but that's the heart of it. =)
I hope the rest of your pregnancy goes well and your birth empowers you!
mommy of ATA
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