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.....Parenting Magazine, that is. In this month's issue, they give that old, tired, worn-out line that sugar-water will ease the pain of circumcision. (And I hate the implied message that parents will be circ'ing, ya' know?!)

I'm writing them a letter. Sigh. Like it's going to do any good. I'm only going to be able to read Mothering Mag from now on!

Oh, and in the very same issue, they discuss the possible benefits of elective C-sections!!
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that's why I canceled my subscription

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Heh They sent me a subscription offer a few weeks ago which I threw away. I'll stick with Mothering.

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:Puke Yeah, I'm sure I'd feel SOOOOO MUCH BETTER if someone gave me some sugar water while slicing half the skin on my genitals off....as if.

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I cancelled my subscription and they won't quit sending it to me!!!! I never read it anymore...just throw it in the recycle pile.
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Yep, I gave up that type of magazine after dd was born and I realized what a load of crap they are!
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Parenting has a very pro-circumcision stance. They try to use their website to promote it as well.

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Please Frank?
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Aw come on!

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I've been getting these (didn't know how horrid they were when I was preggo and subscribed) and got the latest issue. The kicker for me was the sleep training (it's a learned thing, so moms' should sit there while babies cry for hours on end without picking them up - is it just me, or is that worse than mom being in the other room? being abandoned is absolutely horrible, but having someone sit there watching while you're miserable and not doing anything about it... that's twisted!), I didn't read anything else. I canceled it online and they said they'd refund me some of whatever I paid. And I didn't even know about this article. I'm so glad I'm not paying to have trash delivered to my house any more. *sigh*
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I wonder why they are so pro-circumcision? How, exactly, does that stance benefit them...? Hmm...
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They perceive a benefit that is not really there and they are going to have to abandon that perception to avoid a backlash.

They understand that this is a controversial subject and the perception is that there is still overwhelming support for circumcision. There is also a defensiveness because many, if not most of them have circumcised their own sons. They fear that if they take any kind of stance against circumcision, that it will affect their circulation numbers. One of the leaders there and possibly more than one was also Jewish. As with the medical profession, they have chosen to accept the old myths and go against current research and evidence in defense of the bottom line. It all boils down to money. Isn't that always the case?





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man, it all does boil down to money in our society, doesn't it. I just can not believe the filth and lies and misconceptions these mainstream mags continue to encourage and distribute......there have been soooooooooooo many high quality studies and real evidence as to the things parents ought to do for/with their children such as hold them more, talk to them more, bf, not circ, the evidence that extended periods of crying time is unhealthy for a baby, etc but mainstream america just continues to ignore all these things................UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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They understand that this is a controversial subject and the perception is that there is still overwhelming support for circumcision.
There is an overwhelming support for circumcision because magazines like Parenting (I still subscribe ) have no backbone and no courage to print the truth (i.e., the cons.) Many mothers (on this site and others) once they learned the truth, said had they known, they would have never opted to do it. Me included. ing

So they are basically cowards.

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It's such an ugly catch-22: They think they are catering to mainstream America, but mainstream America just follows their advice, and would do something different if they printed something different!
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Does anyone read The Compleat Mother? I think that is a good magazine dealing with parenting issues esp. bf.

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Yeah, I love the Compleat Mother. I love how anti-circ it is!

how pro-natural-home birth it is
how pro-BFing it is

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Well, I love that on a Mothering board (associated with Mothering magazine) you can say you Love another parenting mag!

On, for example, babycenter if you mention another parenting site by name they remove the reference :

 

 

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One of the leaders there and possibly more than one was also Jewish. As with the medical profession, they have chosen to accept the old myths and go against current research and evidence in defense of the bottom line.
Just thought I would point out that just because someone is Jewish or a medical professional doesn't mean that they support routine circ. I'm Jewish *and* a medical professional and I don't support routine circ. Religious circ. is something entirely different, but that's a topic we won't get into in this forum.
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Does anyone read The Compleat Mother? I think that is a good magazine dealing with parenting issues esp. bf.
I used to get it. It's a good magazine minus one or two things.
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i think they just send that mag out to everyone that has had a baby. I think I got it for a year or two without ever subbing to it :
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The circumsison and cesearean struff aside (horrible, I know) but doesn't Dr Sears reguraly contribute to Parenting? How can they publish that stuff about sleep training and still keep him on staff?

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When I was pregnant with my first child (and relatively clueless) I subscribed to all the parenting magazines I had heard of - Child, Parents, Parenting, etc.,. I never liked them but couldn't put my finger on why.

I heard about Mothering while reading a letter in a Motherwear catalog, subscribed, and found what I had always been looking for. I promptly cancelled all the mags that had formula and diaper ads on every other page, half the articles devoted to working outside the home and feeling guilt free, sleep training, etc.,. Mothering is simply exactly what I needed. Luckily I fould them before having my son, and had learned to think for myself regarding issues such as circumcision. It's very empowering to be told that Moms know best - not dr's, religious communities, values we may have been raised with, etc.,.

I don't know anything about the Compleat Mother, but I'll have to check it out. Mothering is my true love though, I buy subscriptions for everyone I know who gets pregnant. I used to only buy them for people I thought were 'Mothering' types, but realized I couldn't change any minds that way. Hopefully it's working!

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