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#31 of 44 Old 06-14-2010, 04:09 PM
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I wonder where I could find NM's stats.

My 3 boys were born in CO, though, where it states the rate is 64% That sounds accurate to me among people with little boys born there in the past decade.

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I'm not sure I believe the stats exactly. I hate to be a Debbie Downer but I know the stats for my state (Texas) are much higher than stated. Even if they are 26 - 50% in the border towns they are much, much higher in the major cities and even rural towns. I'd guess the true percentage is closer to 75 - 80% for the whole state.

I've been looking at trends in my own hospital over the past 3 years or so. I'd say at least half of our immigrant moms circ their boys, including those who traditionally don't. We'll get mamas in town from Mexico working the farms or just traveling through back to Mexico and many of them who deliver go ahead and circ. I'm not sure why. And we have a huge Bermese population now and they circ without fail. They can't speak any English and I'm hoping the details of the procedure aren't getting lost in translation. But anywho...lost of circs in North Texas. I'd guess that 95% of non-immigrant boys in my area are circed too.
My friend who works in another part of the state said about 75% of boys there are also circed.

Just to address a few things others have mentioned in this thread...Texas does still fund Medicaid circs.
Yes, the stats wouldn't include boys born at home but don't assume most of them escape RIC either. At least in N. TX, many homebirthed and birth center born babies are still circed. I'm a member of a homebirth group in my area and half of the moms report they still circ.

The Utah rates seem too low to me. But I do believe RIC is decreasing somewhat and that is encouraging.

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I thought Texas would be high, too. I lived in San Antonio when my first was born. At the large company for which I worked, I got a lot of pressure to "just do it". "It's no big deal, my OB did it." (As if OBs doing it makes it less of a deal, since they are unskilled? They only occasionally save lives by performing surgery to remove babies from wombs or stop hemorrhaging.) Anyway, I finally found a male coworker whose brother grew up intact in Texas. The intact brother said his status wasn't an issue. Just about everyone else I talked to had circed or would circ. I did find two people who wouldn't if they had it to do again because of complications. I found two people who didn't circ.

Now, I'm in Colorado, and our numbers are higher than Texas? I just find that astounding.

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The Utah rates seem too low to me. But I do believe RIC is decreasing somewhat and that is encouraging.
Personally I've talked several Utahns out of circ'ing!!

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I think I remember reading it was discouraged by the Mormon religion. At least the old-school Mormons were opposed to it.
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I live in Florida and I never would have guessed it's "only" 36% here. I don't know anyone else here who didn't circ.

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I'm in Cinci, Ohio, and shocked at the numbers. When I was in the hospital after ds was born, the very young female pediatrician who did the initial exams at the hospital came in and asked "you didn't circ?"and I told her we weren't going to and she smiled and very quietly said "Good for you". I was shocked at this but pleasantly surprised!!!!! So maybe there's hope for ohio yet
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Yeah, I'm in OH too and not the least bit surprsied at the 85 or 86 or whatever percentile it is. I too know *no one* else with an intact boy - and I have lots of friends with little boys. And all of them are circ'd.
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Originally Posted by glongley View Post
The 9% vs. 31% rate in Canada does indeed reflect the difference between rates at hospital discharge, vs. the number of boys who are ultimately circumcised within the first year of life. It may be that circumcisions are not performed in hospitals in Canada much any more due to lack of reimbursement and general recognition of lack of medical necessity, but that post-hospital circumcision providers are picking up the slack for those parents determined to have it done.

Relaize that the numbers given for the US are also hospital discharge figures. Certainly a number of circumcisions are performed for religious reasons after hospital discharge or in doctor's offices instead of the hospital for whatever reason. So the 55% national circ rate usually quoted only reflects hospital discharge figures and the rates for all circumcision in the first year of life are undoubtedly higher. I believe there was a study in the last few years looking at data in Maryland that showed perhaps 10% higher rates for post hospital infant circs than were reflected in the discharge stats. (I may not be remembering the exact numbers right).

Though the stats do miss post discharge circs, they also miss homebirthed boys who get to remain intact, so there is some balancing out and the %s may not be that far off.

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I'm in Ohio, the state with the highest percentage, and proud to say that I have three intact boys! (two of them born in this state, one not)

I had no issues at birth with my two that were born in Ohio, but I hung up signs with huge bold red letters that made my preference quite clear

I have, though, had issues with Dayton Children's Hospital. They haven't ever suggested a circ is necessary, but they are woefully uninformed on the proper care of an intact penis. I sent a nasty gram to the head of Radiology after a nurse tried to retract my son to cath him for a VCUG.

My oldest son was born overseas at a military hospital, and I fended off circumcision numerous times, it got a little ridiculous! Then I asked one of the nurses "what the rate is here for circ?" and she said "oh, it's free, is that why you're declining?" No, I meant the percentage. She estimated it at about 80-85%. Then she stood there waiting for me to say yes, and I just smiled and looked at my son and said "well, you're a lucky one!"

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I'm in OH too.... I expected the rate to be high, but not that high!!!

I get told all these "horrible" things that are going to happen since I didn't circ ds! I'm the only one among anyone I know here who didn't circ! It's so sad to me

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Yeah, California! I'm guessing Latinos and other immigrant populations help our rate, but I think there's just a lot more of thinking differently/openmindedness here, which helps people stop a tradition of circ! This will be great to cite if anyone questions upcoming DS's status!

But those other numbers are very sad
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Honestly thought CO was going to be much lower! For real not as bad as many of the states, but I was hoping and thinking we should be with the green states at least very close and maybe yellow. 66% Still way way to high for this state!
This is such a strange cultural thing and obviously a very state to state culture as well.

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Originally Posted by anony View Post
Therefore, more Americanized generations of these minority groups will come to see circ as alien, unfamiliar and won't jump on it. That said, pockets of people with these backgrounds will do it just to fit in more. But I think that's why in a state like NY (still between 1/2 and 3/4 but close to 1/2) the lowest rates are in the NYC area where there's a high proportion of Puerto Ricans and other nationalities that don't routinely practice it.
I don't know that Puerto Ricans don't often circumcise... it's a very 'mainstream' parenting culture there. Mostly hospital birthing, a huge number of c-sections, a lot of formula-feeding. And my husband & his 2 brothers, born in San Juan, were circumcised. My MIL says she was told at the hospital that they would get cancer if she didn't have them cut. And I think that immigrant populations who might not circumcise in their home country at least think about doing it here, as Night_Nurse said about Mexican parents in Texas, so I don't think we can safely believe that being Latino means no circ (trust me, I was hoping that when I met my husband! )

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