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http://www.nocirc.org/publish/2011newsletter-web.pdf


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I saw this in Babytalk magazine too. 33%!!!


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I saw this in Babytalk magazine too. 33%!!!

 

Was there a nocirc ad in the mag- or did they have an article??  Just curious because BabyTalk has been pretty foreskin ignorant in the past.

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Thanks for posting!  I will be printing it out!

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Was there a nocirc ad in the mag- or did they have an article??  Just curious because BabyTalk has been pretty foreskin ignorant in the past.

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It's in the Feb 2011 copy on page 12, in VERY big print on the page "Cravings". It says "33% of baby boys were circumcised in 2009--down from 56 percent in 2006, due partly to insurers no longer covering the procedure once the AAP took a neutral stance on its necessity." That's it. BUT it's there!!!

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Is that percentage really accurate though? I was under the impression that those are hospital statistics.. the %age of baby boys circumcised before hospital discharge. I know far too many people who had their boys circed a few days to a couple weeks after discharge, at the dr's office :( (because many hospitals don't offer RIC anymore) Are they included in the statistics? Hate to be pessimistic...


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Is that percentage really accurate though? I was under the impression that those are hospital statistics.. the %age of baby boys circumcised before hospital discharge. I know far too many people who had their boys circed a few days to a couple weeks after discharge, at the dr's office :( (because many hospitals don't offer RIC anymore) Are they included in the statistics? Hate to be pessimistic...


Yes, I've been wondering about this for some time. My state's circ rate is now 25%, and some hospitals don't do routine infant circ at all. But I've noticed at least two local pediatric practices that advertise circ on their websites as an office procedure - no hospitalization needed (I bet no anesthesia either...). I wonder if they are included in the stats since those boys are technically intact upon hospital discharge.

Home births may also skew the stats by falling through the cracks, since they were never in the hospital at all. But home birthers are probably a small enough number that they are not statistically significant.

I doubt Jewish mohels report their numbers to any state agency. Many people who circ for religious reasons have it done outside the hospital setting.
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Those numbers are probably hospital stats. I bet there isn't anyone keeping track of the post-discharge circs. BUT this is a mainstream magazine and it will affect the rates, and it does state that insurers are starting to refuse to pay, I bet that is regardless of location.


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Home births may also skew the stats by falling through the cracks, since they were never in the hospital at all. But home birthers are probably a small enough number that they are not statistically significant.


I just want to point out that not all home birthers leave their boys intact. In my local home birth group, about half the boys were circed. :-(

But you are right, I doubt even if all home birthed babies were left intact that it's a large enough group to change the statistics.


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I think the "real" rate is probably more like 50/50 and that 33% is just in-hospital and covered by insurance, but at least we can say that it is dropping!


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I'm inclined to agree with you Treece on the post discharge circs. I wonder what those numbers really are exactly. Several hospitals wont do them while in hospital post birth as a common policy. I think it's a good one to have though however, because the less... engaged... parents are less likely to follow through if they have to do it on their own.

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