Does anyone regret NOT circumcising? *this is NOT a pro circ thread, just curious about the medical complications* - Page 5 - Mothering Forums

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#121 of 133 Old 10-11-2012, 11:27 AM
 
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I have three boys, currently 4, 8, and 10.

Although I was circumcised (I am of Jewish descent though not practicing), my three boys were not (my decision).

I am happy that I allowed them the option of choosing themselves.

We have had no medical problems.

I have explained to the older boys about my decision not to circumcise them.  They are aware that they are intact while I am not.

To date, they have no problems with my decision, though I don't think they really fully appreciate it either.

Maybe when they get older (e.g. showering with peers and sexual encounters) will they start to really think about whether they are intact or not (like most of their American peers).

I have no problems should they decide to be circumcised as adults though I won't help them pay for the procedure.

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I am sorry my post is not a direct response to the OP but I wanted to chime in anyway.  I'm currently 34 weeks pregnant with a baby boy and my husband and I have decided to keep him intact.  My husband is circumcised and honestly never gave it much thought.  He never had any issues and was ignorant to the debate.  When we found out we were having a boy I got a little anxious regarding this decision.  I didn't want to push my beliefs on him bc I admit, especially in the beginning, my anti-circ beliefs were based more in a gut feeling way versus educated.  I just could not understand why we were performing cosmetic surgery on BABIES.  Also, I couldn't exactly tell me husband that my fling in London wasn't cut and he was more than ok- not to mention a college boyfriend who was born in Spain.  whistling.gif  I remember just bringing it up and being pleasantly surprised that he did his own research and pretty quickly deemed it cruel and pointless.  So grateful to be on the same page!

 

Where I live (Bergen County, NJ) everyone I know is cut.  All the moms I know have their sons cut without giving it much thought.  That part bothers me a little bit but certainly not enough to do something I feel down to my core is wrong.  I just wanted to write that I am grateful I came across this website and this particular thread.  It eases my mind.  I wish I could be like the PP who said it wasn't a choice for her.  For me it is.  It felt like a big decision.  I think I knew the entire time where I would end up but it is great to be able to hear from other Moms who have beliefs like mine.  So thank you. 

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Little boys rarely know if others in their neighborhood are circumcised, so it doesn't really matter much what others in your location do. I keep reading about the showering issue. Most kids I know don't shower after gym class. There's not enough time, and they'd rather goof around, anyway.
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When I first started thinking about this entire issue, the whole locker room issue kept coming up and it still baffles me.  Makes no sense to me.

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I have never regretted our decision to leave our 3 boys intact.  We have never had any major issues, mostly uninformed dr trying to retract.

 

I also wanted to add that before I had kids I worked at a nursing home and around 70% of the men were intact.  I do not know how many of the men that were circed had it done at birth or if any had to have it done later, but 70% of the men I helped take care of seemed to have no real problems with thier foreskin.


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A couple of thoughts about this thread:

 

Why is it that our medical system amputates no other body part for therapeutic purposes?  It is perverse that male genitalia are mutilated for some fairey tale problem that might occur in the future, and that could be treated by far less invasive means than amputation.

 

Doctors who perform routine infant circumcision are violating the oath that they took when they became doctors "to do no harm".

 

Whose foreskin is it?  Why can some people not grasp the concept that it is totaly unethical to forcefully remove a healthy, normal and functional part of someone elses body?  Does it not occur to them that maybe the child in question would like to have kept his foreskin?

 

The most sensitive part of a penis is not the glans - it is the foreskin.  Removing it causes the loss of up to 85% of the nerves.  No wonder the greatest per capita use of drugs such as Viagra is in the U.S.A. and Israel.  See www.cirp.org/library/anatomy/Sorrells_2007/

Why would anyone want to disadvantage their child's lifelong sexual experience?

 

I know that I am preaching to the choir here, except for "snip"!!

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I'll take a stab at all these...

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A couple of thoughts about this thread:

 

Why is it that our medical system amputates no other body part for therapeutic purposes?  

 

Because all other body parts are valued.  

 


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Doctors who perform routine infant circumcision are violating the oath that they took when they became doctors "to do no harm".

But if they believe, based on false information & bias from being circumcised themselves, they are in fact doing something beneficial.  So, they are not doing harm because they believe they are helping the infant to avoid problems.

 

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Whose foreskin is it?  Why can some people not grasp the concept that it is totaly unethical to forcefully remove a healthy, normal and functional part of someone elses body?  Does it not occur to them that maybe the child in question would like to have kept his foreskin?

 

 

I believe the basis for this is something called "adultism."  Adultism means that the adult knows better than the child w/ regards to everything, because they are an adult, but especially regarding parts of the body that are seen as expendable.  (Here's the wikipedia entry for it - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adultism) The thought that the child may have wanted their foreskin someday never even crosses their minds, especially if they are a circ'd father.  How many times have we heard, "I've a great sex life, don't criticize my sexual prowess!"?  That, combined w/ most people do not see children as actual people - they see them as something else to have, another "thing" to add to their lives, someone to have control over; all these things may not actually be conscious (sp?) thoughts either.  Society in general does not value children, no matter how much they preach to the contrary.

 

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The most sensitive part of a penis is not the glans - it is the foreskin.  Removing it causes the loss of up to 85% of the nerves.  No wonder the greatest per capita use of drugs such as Viagra is in the U.S.A. and Israel.  See www.cirp.org/library/anatomy/Sorrells_2007/

Why would anyone want to disadvantage their child's lifelong sexual experience?

I've read on here recently that at least one father has said something along the lines of, "I didn't get to keep mine to have normal sex so neither will my child."  Sick.  Sick.  Sick.  Connecting the dots from the most frequent users of viagra to loss of the foreskin requires thinking, something which a great many people seek actively to avoid.

 

Just my thoughts ;-).

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hakuna, I just got an update for this thread in my email and it struck me - what an odd title for a post. Then, I followed the link and found you were expressing the same sentiment, essentially.

 

I would regret NOT circumcising my son as much as I would regret NOT having his toenails removed. It's a mystifying sentiment to me. No matter what happened to him, even if he got cancer of the foreskin, I wouldn't regret letting him keep a body part he was born with.

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Beru,  I wholeheartedly agree.  As I'm sure you figured out, I was not replying to the title of the thread as much as the latter posts in it.

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OP, any updates? Did you find out if you're having a boy, or are you team green? Always good to hear of another babe being left intact :)


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In my Pediatric Nurse Practitioner's book (published in 2011) it states that circumcision is not medically necessary and, based on evidence from research, the benefits of getting circumcised do not out weigh the risks.
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I can't possibly read through this very long thread. But to its title I have a personal answer.

 

Not circumcising my son was an instant and never questionable action. I'm English and we keep our boys intact without a moment's thought of circumcision. He is healthily and happily as nature made him. My grandsons are the same.

 

Throughout my boyhood I was intact. In adulthood I was circumcised 10 years ago.

 

Explanation: at 6 years old my foreskin was forcibly retracted in a moment of anger by a carer in a children's home. The injury scarred and prevented my foreskin from easy retraction as I grew older. As an adult it retracted with difficulty during masturbation - and failure in sexual intercourse. Finally, I could not manually retract my foreskin at all. A terrifying occasion of paraphimosis after sex led to a dorsal slit in my foreskin to relieve the consequent oedema - and circumcision a day or two later.

 

So do I regret NOT being circumcised? I don't really need to answer that. Circumcision saved me from the death (necrosis) of a strangulated penis. My consequent loss of sensitivity as the years go by is a price I have to pay. Selfishly, I''m glad I was circumcised to rid myself of the memory of abuse and its outcome.

 

This bears no comparison to the fate of pre-pubescent boys circumcised at a parent's whim with no thought to their future life with healthy foreskins.

 

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My son is uncircumcised in an area of the country where the majority of the boys are circumcised.  He is in elementary school, and the boys see each other when they urinate (urinals).  He's asked why he's different, and we've had to explain our reasoning and so on. Not to say I regret not circumcising him (or his younger brother).  It's just that the "locker room" effect can and does happen.

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