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A totally honest question I'm wondering

I have the feeling that a lot of people that chose to mutilate their babies go about a diaper change with minimal cleaning around the glans, if they clean that area at all.

Do they really check for adhesions, infection, etc...or do they just do a quick "well, it looks clean, gotta move on from that" and move on to other parts of the body?
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I was told if I had him circ-ed that we were supposed to actually clean all of it "because poo could get in there and it would get infected" but Im not sure if that was just the one doctor or if it's the norm.
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I can't answer your question, but I do have a story: Very recently I visited my almost 93 year old aunt who is still very sharp and has fascinating stories of her earlier life. Her mother got sick and died when the kids were 5,4 and 2. With no relatives around, my aunt being the eldest was charged with caring for the other two. She stated that when her brother (the youngest) was circumcised, she had to pull the skin back and found that it was much easier if she wrapped a wash cloth soaked in warm water around his penis. I asked her why he had been circumcised. She said she had no idea. She went on to be a nurse all her working life.
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If that's the reason people mutilate their babies, they are misinformed about how to care for an intact boy. You just wipe off the exterior of the foreskin and move along! It's when the baby has AN OPEN WOUND SOAKING IN EXCREMENT that the hygiene is more complicated!!

That said, my impression is that parents of mutilated boys generally follow doctors' instructions about applying petroleum jelly to the wound until it is healed, but after that they barely clean the penis at all unless it has visible poop on it. Many parents I've seen changing diapers, for babies of either sex, don't even use a wipe if it's a wet diaper, and if it's a dirty diaper they wipe off the anal area and buttocks but ignore the genitals unless they can see poop there. Seems disgusting to me--if I had wet my pants, I would rinse the whole area, so that's what I do for my baby, with plain water on a washcloth.
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Do you mean immediately after the surgery or permanently? I'd hope that right after surgery they'd be vigilant- their kid just had surgery! After it's healed, I imagine they wouldn't feel the need to watch it too closely. After awhile you know your child well enough to notice anything out of the ordinary with rather minimal checking anyways.

"Seems disgusting to me--if I had wet my pants, I would rinse the whole area, so that's what I do for my baby, with plain water on a washcloth. "

I don't clean after wet diapers because the diapers seem to do a good enough job of soaking it all up. If kiddo was still wet, that'd be one thing, but kiddo is dry enough that I can take a wet diaper off and have no problem with him immediately sitting butt-naked on my lap. He doesn't smell of urine and shows no sign of having any traces of it on him. And kiddo's a very heavy wetter (when it gets to the point of leaking- then we DO wipe it up because he's gotten himself urine-soaked). I don't see the point of being more invasive than I need to be. Water on a washcloth would probably get kiddo damper than the diaper. We've never had issues with diaper rash or upset. Wetting your pants isn't the same as wetting a diaper. Pants aren't designed to wick moisture away from the skin the way diapers are meant to.

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I'm not sure what you are asking, but since circumcision is perpetuated by the myth that "it's cleaner," it would make sense that parents who did it for that reason wouldn't feel the need to clean a circumcised penis.
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sometimes circumcision is taken too lightly. Careful cleaning is sufficient to avoid problems. My son (now 20 years) had this problem as a child we treated with an ointment for elasticity of prepuce.
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My son (now 20 years) had this problem as a child we treated with an ointment for elasticity of prepuce.
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sometimes circumcision is taken too lightly. Careful cleaning is sufficient to avoid problems. My son (now 20 years) had this problem as a child we treated with an ointment for elasticity of prepuce.
Could you be a bit more specific about your son's problem? Or was it that the doctor THOUGHT he had a problem? The reason I ask is that in North American medical circles there has been (and sometimes still is) this pervasive notion that all intact boys must have their foreskins pulled back and the glans rigorously cleaned. The fact is that a boys foreskin often does not become retractable until around puberty. The average age is 10 1/2. This is assuming that no one has been forcing it back. The preputial cavity is self cleaning - it is flushed out by urine every time he pees. Using soap destroys the natural flora and causes infections, smells and irritation. It is really no different than little girl parts.
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I have 2 boys circed, 2 boys intact. Its been my experience with my circed boys I did have to clean it. It would get a funky build up if I didn't. My intact boys don't need any special care.
Not sure if that helps ...
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Oh wow... I haven't been here in a while, but just saw the notification for the thread, but....

Someone I know just had a baby boy and yeah, there's occasionally one or two you just can't save, so you focus your strength and energy elsewhere...but he was posting something online about the kid decided to hose them with urine when they were "changing the gauze around his circumcision."

HIS? Did he ask for it? Poor baby.

The kid also has been known to scream rather loudly at night. I have no idea what time of day he was born, but I'd imagine the circumcision would have been done during daytime hours. I wonder if there's a connection.


On another note, someone else I know had a baby boy about a month or so early, may or may not have posted the usual about "brave warrior" etc. Someone else posted a very gentle "no reason to do that" comment, I agreed and she liked both those comments as well as every other comment
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The kid also has been known to scream rather loudly at night. I have no idea what time of day he was born, but I'd imagine the circumcision would have been done during daytime hours. I wonder if there's a connection.
It probably stings like crazy to pee on the wound of a circumcision - I'm sure I'd scream loudly too !!
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If a recently cut baby is screaming at night it may well be due to erection. Babies get erections, particularly in ther sleep. Its totally natural, and not linked to sexuality its just the way the male body works, all men get erections at night all their life. An erection after circumcision is a very painful thing. I was waking up every night for months because of it. I would imagine it takes a while even for a baby to adapt. In the meantime, the poor thing will scream.
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How old do the circumcision. My son (6 years old) are not circumcised

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Oh wow... I haven't been here in a while, but just saw the notification for the thread, but....

Someone I know just had a baby boy and yeah, there's occasionally one or two you just can't save, so you focus your strength and energy elsewhere...but he was posting something online about the kid decided to hose them with urine when they were "changing the gauze around his circumcision."

HIS? Did he ask for it? Poor baby.

The kid also has been known to scream rather loudly at night. I have no idea what time of day he was born, but I'd imagine the circumcision would have been done during daytime hours. I wonder if there's a connection.


On another note, someone else I know had a baby boy about a month or so early, may or may not have posted the usual about "brave warrior" etc. Someone else posted a very gentle "no reason to do that" comment, I agreed and she liked both those comments as well as every other comment
Consider the pain associated with cutting yourself with a sharp knife. It is very sharp stinging pain that is exacerbated whenever anything comes in contact with it. Now consider if someone had taken that similarly sharp blade and cut off half of the skin on your index finger, or most of the skin on your genitals. That is the level of pain that these infants are in. It has also been clearly demonstrated that infants who have had this done to them suffer from a very direct type of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, in the same way that victims of sexual assault have. They are able to clearly remember every single thing that was done to them for at least six months following the event and potentially leading on for two years. During this period they suffer from all of the same flashbacks and nightmares any adult or older child suffering from PTSD has. Both of these things would keep them up and screaming at night.
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