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Seems to be clear association between penile cancer and not being circumcised. These two pieces that I found from searching are the best two that I have seen that put the issue into context

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3139859/

http://surgicalopinion.blogspot.com....-argument.html
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Well, I much prefer the second article over the first. The PMC article seems to be attempting to extrapolate data from many different reports (mostly in sub Saharan Africa), some decades old, to make a case for North America.

I don't have time to pull up references for all that I'm going to say, but the bottom line: Both admit that penile cancer is very rare at approximately one case per 100,000 men. It is also understood that it tends to affect old men (median age given as 68) and that in nearly all cases those affected will die from some other cause long before the penile cancer has a serious affect. It is generally admitted that circumcision kills around 120 babies a year in the U.S. Many suspect that the figure may be a lot higher because of the prevalence of dishonest reporting (i.e. the child died from the anaesthetic - well if he wasn't getting circumcised he would not have needed an anaesthetic). There are also a number of complications that result from circumcision requiring further surgery.

So the question becomes: Would a man prefer to live his life with a normal intact penis, enjoying sex as nature intended, with a very slight risk of acquiring penile cancer as an old man, OR be circumcised as a child, with all the attendant physiological (sub normal sex life and possible mutilated penis) and (often) psychological effects, including a very slight risk of death, for a small decrease in the risk of acquiring an extremely rare case of penile cancer?

I know what I'd choose - and it would not be genital surgery.
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Seems to be clear association between penile cancer and not being circumcised. These two pieces that I found from searching are the best two that I have seen that put the issue into context

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3139859/

http://surgicalopinion.blogspot.com....-argument.html
This is a forum about mothering/parenting. Informed adults can decide for themselves about THIER OWN bodies. Penile cancer affects old unhygienic men mainly with untreated phimosis. Smoking is a huge risk factor. Cut men do get penile cancer.

Penile cancer is not a relevant consideration for forced genital cutting of children.

I have no idea what the horrible survey/study in your first link is even trying to say. The authors at least took the time to point out that the cancer link is with untreated phimosis, not with intactness.

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There's a clear association between appendicitis and having an appendix, but we don't perform appendectomies on newborns or on anyone who doesn't have appendicitis.

There is about an 8 in 100 chance of getting appendicitis in one's lifetime, vs. a 1 in 100,000 chance of getting penile cancer.

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