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Dear Ann, I'm so sorry for this setback! Thanks for all your hard work, your day is coming. Baybee
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According to Frank, medical expenses for those who have been circumcised are greater than for the intact (as an average). I don't remember what the difference is.

http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2004/11...-_Van_Howe.pdf



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http://www.denverpost.com/ci_3660566

"Rep. Mark Larson's annual attempt to eliminate Medicaid funding for
circumcision was voted down. This year, fellow lawmakers spared the
Cortez Republican their usual jokes about cutting the budget."
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O.K. Who here got this one published?

http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/ci_3661404

Way to go!!!!!

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http://www.denverpost.com/ci_3660566

"Rep. Mark Larson's annual attempt to eliminate Medicaid funding for
circumcision was voted down. This year, fellow lawmakers spared the
Cortez Republican their usual jokes about cutting the budget."
From what I understand, legistlators were not exactly mature in their discussion.

But perhaps this report promises that changes are happening.
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I think that Rep. Mark Larson deserves a big vote of acknowledgement for persistently trying to educate these dumb clods and for trying to save the state a ton of public money.
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I think that Rep. Mark Larson deserves a big vote of acknowledgement for persistently trying to educate these dumb clods and for trying to save the state a ton of public money.
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One may download or link to the file on the website of the Winnipeg Regional
Health Authority at:

http://www.wrha.mb.ca/healthinfo/a-z...rcumcision.pdf

This is a BIG MIRACLE!!! Probably the hardest hitting circ info pamphlet I've ever read by a gov't agency. Let's use this as a model for other health depts.

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To: <ppowellc@who.int>, <FGMstudygroup@who.int>

Mr Christopher Powell
Communications Advisor
WHO/Family and Community Health
Telephone: +41 22 791 2888
Mobile: +41 79 217 3425
Emailpowellc@who.int

WHO FGM study group
Telephone: + 41 22 791 3374
Fax: +41 22 791 4171
Email:FGMstudygroup@who.int


Dear WHO:

I am happy to see that progress has been made in research on FGM and I hope
that this helps overcome cultural resistance to protecting the human rights
of girls to bodily integrity.

My question is, when will WHO and the rest of the world grant equal research
time and dollars and equal genital protection for boys? You may not have
heard that boys are human too, and have equal human rights with girls. Our
problem is not FGM, it is HGM, Human Genital Mutilation. To deny this is to
violate the human rights of and commit sexual violence against half of the
human population, the male half, and to display one's anti-male sexism. Boys
are killed by circumcision too, and a lot more of them than girls because so
many more boys than girls are mutilated.

I look forward to the day when your last paragraph reads, "The authors of
the study say that this new evidence is of crucial importance to communities
where HGM is practiced, both for the men and women who have had HGM and to
protect future generations of men, women, boys and girls from HGM. HGM
remains a pressing human rights issue and reliable evidence regarding its
harmful effects, both for fathers, mothers and their babies, should
contribute to the abandonment of the practice. WHO is committed to work with
international partners and countries to eliminate HGM. It is in direct
violation of human rights, has both short-term and long-term adverse health
consequences, and is an unnecessary procedure."


Van Lewis, Administrator
Ashley Montagu Resolution to End the Genital Mutilation of Children
Worldwide:
A Petition to the World Court, the Hague
http://MontaguNoCircPetition.org


... circumcision, an archaic ritual mutilation that has no justification
whatever and no place in a civilized society.
Ashley Montagu, Ph.D., (1905-1999), Anthropologist, "Humanist of the Year",
1995.
Concluding his 1991 essay, "Mutilated Humanity"
http://nocirc.org/symposia/second/montagu.html

I'm against it.
George Wald, Ph.D., Nobel Laureate, Physiology or Medicine (1967)
In his 1975 essay, "Circumcision". See
http://StopInfantCircumcision.org/crick-wald.htm

... you may add my name to those opposed to the genital mutilations of
children worldwide and supportive of the Montagu Resolution.
Francis Crick, Ph.D., Nobel Laureate, Physiology or Medicine (1962)
Letter to James Prescott, April 1995.

You may add my name to those in support of the Montagu Resolution expressing
opposition to the genital mutilation of children.
Jonas Salk, M.D., Creator of the Salk polio vaccine
Letter to James Prescott, April 1995.

... I have endorsed the Montagu Petition.
Betty Williams, Nobel Peace Laureate (1976)
Web Endorsement of the Montagu Resolution, October 2005.

The greatest crime against humanity is the torture and mutilation of
children. Child abuse and neglect, particularly in its extreme forms,
represents a form of torture and mutilation. Not commonly recognized as
child abuse and neglect and a form of torture and mutilation is the ritual
mutilation of genitals of children (male and female). One reason for the
non-recognition of these crimes of genital mutilation and torture is their
common occurrence and their support by religious and social traditions of
various kinds. Another reason is the denial and/or indifference to the pain
that is being inflicted upon these children.
James Prescott, Ph.D., Neuropsychologist, Cross-Cultural Psychologist,
Author of the Montagu Resolution
Institute of Humanistic Science http://violence.de

Just because people don't want to hear the message the first time
doesn't mean they're not going to get it eventually.
Marilyn Milos, R.N., Founder, National Organization of
Circumcision Information Resource Centers (NoCirc)
http://NoCirc.org

The obscure we see eventually,
the completely apparent takes longer.
Edward R. Murrow

I and the public know
What all school children learn,
Those to whom evil is done
Do evil in return.
W. H. Auden, in "September 1, 1939"

First they ignore you,
then they laugh at you,
then they fight you,
then you win.
Mahatma Ghandi

All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer, German philosopher (1788 - 1860)

A man uncircumcised in the flesh desires to lie with a beautiful-looking
woman who speaks seductively to attract him. He vexes his mind to be with
her day after day, growing weary in his attempt to fulfil his desire through
lovemaking with her. She too will court the man who is
uncircumcised in the flesh and lie against his breast with great passion,
for he thrusts inside her a long time because of his foreskin, which is a
barrier against ejaculation in intercourse. Thus she feels pleasure and
reaches an orgasm first. When an uncircumcised man sleeps with her, and then
resolves to return to his home, she brazenly grabs him, holding on to his
genitals and says to him, "Come back, make love to me." This is because of
the pleasure that she finds in intercourse with him, from the sinews of his
testicles--sinew of iron--and from his ejaculation--that of a horse which he
shoots like an arrow into her womb. They are united without separating, and
he makes love twice and three times in one night, yet the appetite is not
filled. And so he acts with her night after night. The sexual
activity emaciates him of his bodily fat, and afflicts his flesh, and he
devotes his brain entirely to women, an evil thing. His heart dies within
him; between her legs he sinks and falls. He is unable to see the light of
the King's face, because the eyes of the intellect are plastered over by
women so that they cannot now see light. But when a circumcised man
desires the beauty of a woman, and cleaves to his wife, or to another woman
comely in appearance, he will find himself performing his task quickly,
emitting his seed as soon as he inserts his crown. If he lies with her once,
he sleeps satisfied, and will not know her again for another seven days.
This is the way a circumcised man acts time after time with the woman he
loves. He has an orgasm first; he does not hold back his strength. As soon
as he begins intercourse, he immediately comes to a climax. She has
no pleasure from him when she lies down on when she arises, and it would be
better for her if he had not known her and not drawn near to her, for he
arouses her passsion to no avail, and she remains in a state of desire for
her husband, ashamed and confounded, while the seed is still in her
"reservoir." She does not have an orgasm once a year except on rare
occasions, because of the great heat and the fire burning within her. Thus
he who says "I am the Lord's" will not empty his brain because of his wife
or the wife of his friend. He will find grace and good favor; his heart will
be strong to seek out God. he will not fear to behold that which is beyond,
and when He speaks to him, he will not turn away.
Rabbi Isaac ben Yedaiah of Southern France, late 13th century

Similarly with regard to circumcision, one of the reasons for it is, in my
opinion, the wish to bring about a decrease in sexual intercourse and a
weakening of the organ in question, so that this activity be diminished and
the organ be in as quiet a state as possible. It has been thought that
circumcision perfects what is defective congenitally. This gave the
possibility to everyone to raise an objection and to say: How can natural
things be defective so that they need to be perfected from outside, all the
more because we know how useful the foreskin is for that member? In fact
this commandment has not been prescribed with a view to perfecting what is
defective congenitally, but to perfecting what is defective morally. The
bodily pain caused to that member is the real purpose of circumcision. None
of the activities necessary for the preservation of the individual is harmed
thereby, nor is procreation rendered impossible, but violent concupiscence
and lust that goes beyond what is needed are diminished. The fact that
circumcision weakens the faculty of sexual excitement and sometimes perhaps
diminishes the pleasure is indubitable. For if at birth this member has been
made to bleed and has had its covering taken away from it, it must
indubitably be weakened. The Sages, may their memory be blessed, have
explicitly stated: It is hard for a woman with whom an uncircumcised man has
had sexual intercourse to separate from him. In my opinion this is the
strongest of the reasons for circumcision. ... According to me circumcision
has another very important meaning, namely, that all people professing this
opinion-that is, those who believe in the unity of God-should have a bodily
sign uniting them so that one who does not belong to them should not be able
to claim that he was one of them, while being a stranger. For he would do
this in order to profit by them or to deceive the people who profess this
religion. Now a man does not perform this act upon himself or upon a son of
his unless it be in consequence of a genuine belief. For it is not like an
incision in the leg or a burn in the arm, but is a very, very hard thing. It
is also well known what degree of mutual love and mutual help exists between
people who all bear the same sign, which forms for them a sort of covenant
and alliance. Circumcision is a covenant made by Abraham our Father with a
view to the belief in the unity of God. Thus everyone who is circumcised
joins Abraham's covenant. This covenant imposes the obligation to believe in
the unity of God: To be a God unto thee and to thy seed after thee. This
also is a strong reason, as strong as the first, which may be adduced to
account for circumcision; perhaps it is even stronger than the first. The
perfection and perpetuation of this Law can only be achieved if circumcision
is performed in childhood. For this there are three wise reasons. The first
is that if the child were let alone until he grew up, he would sometimes not
perform it. The second is that a child does not suffer as much pain as a
grown-up man because his membrane is still soft and his imagination weak;
for a grown-up man would regard the thing, which he would imagine before it
occurred, as terrible and hard. The third is that the parents of a child
that is just born take lightly matters concerning it, for up to that time
the imaginative form that compels the parents to love it is not yet
consolidated. For this imaginative form increases through habitual contact
and grows with the growth of the child. Then it begins to decrease and to
disappear, I refer to this imaginative form. For the love of the father and
of the mother for the child when it has just been born is not like their
love for it when it is one year old, and their love for it when it is one
year old is not like their love when it is six years old. Consequently if it
were left uncircumcised for two or three years, this would necessitate the
abandonment of circumcision because of the father's love and affection for
it. At the time of its birth, on the other hand, this imaginative form is
very weak, especially as far as concerns the father upon whom this
commandment is imposed. ... The fact that circumcision is performed on the
eighth day is due to the circumstance that all living beings are very weak
and exceedingly tender when they are born, as if they were still in the
womb. This is so until seven days are past. It is only then that they are
counted among those who have contact with the air. Do you not see that this
point is also taken into account with regard to beasts ?‹Seven days shall it
be with its dam, and so on. It is as if before that period it were an
abortion. Similarly with regard to man; he is circumcised after seven days
have passed. In this way the matter is fixed: You do not make out of it
something that varies. This class of commandments also includes the
prohibition against mutilating the sexual organs of all the males of
animals, which is based on the principle of righteous statutes and
judgments, I mean the principle of keeping the mean in all matters; sexual
intercourse should neither be excessively indulged, as we have mentioned,
nor wholly abolished. Did He not command and say: Be fruitful and multiply?
Accordingly this organ is weakened by means of circumcision, but not
extirpated through excision. What is natural is left according to nature,
but measures are taken against excess. He that is wounded in the stones or
hath his privy member cut off is forbidden to marry a woman of Israel, for
such cohabitation would be perverted and aimless. Such a marriage would
likewise be a stumbling block for the woman and for him who seeks her out.
This is very clear.
Moses Maimonides (1135-1204), also known as the "Rambam",
a medieval Jewish rabbi, physician and philosopher,
in The Guide of the Perplexed, Part III, Chapter 49,

I only wish that those troublemakers who want to mutilate you by
circumcision
would mutilate [or castrate] themselves.
St. Paul, Galatians 5:12

And now are you going to correct God by burdening the Gentiles
with a yoke that neither we nor our fathers were able to bear?
St. Peter, Acts 15:10

I have done one work, and ye all marvel. Moses therefore gave unto you
circumcision; (not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers and ye on
the sabbath day circumcise a man. If a man on the sabbath day receive
circumcision, that the law of Moses should not be broken; are ye angry at
me, because I have made a man every whit whole on the sabbath day? Judge not
according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
Jesus of Nazareth, John 7: 21-24

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark;
the real tragedy of life is when adults are afraid of the light.
Plato

Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for
many generations.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your
religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and
elders.
But when, after observation and analysis, you find anything that agrees with
reason,
and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all,
then accept it and live up to it.
Siddhartha Gautama, Buddha

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Published in The Lancet
New study shows female genital mutilation exposes women and babies to
significant risk at childbirth
2 JUNE 2006 | GENEVA -- A new study published by the World Health
Organization (WHO) has shown that women who have had Female Genital
Mutilation (FGM) are significantly more likely to experience difficulties
during childbirth and that their babies are more likely to die as a result
of the practice.
Serious complications during childbirth include the need to have a caesarean
section, dangerously heavy bleeding after the birth of the baby and
prolonged hospitalization following the birth. The study showed that the
degree of complications increased according to the extent and severity of
the FGM.

Related links
:: More on female genital mutilation

:: Fact sheet: Female genital mutilation

In the case of caesarean section, women who have been subjected to the most
serious form of FGM ("FGM III") will have on average 30 per cent more
caesarean sections compared with those who have not had any FGM. Similarly
there is a 70 per cent increase in numbers of women who suffer from
postpartum haemorrhage in those with FGM III compared to those women without
FGM.*
"As a result of this study we have, for the first time, evidence that
deliveries among women who have been subject to FGM are significantly more
likely to be complicated and dangerous," said Joy Phumaphi, Assistant
Director-General, Family and Community Health, WHO. " FGM is a practice
steeped in culture and tradition but it should not be allowed to carry on.
We must support communities in their efforts to abandon the practice and to
improve care for those who have undergone FGM. We must also steadfastly
resist the medicalization of FGM. WHO is totally opposed to FGM being
carried out by medical personnel."
The study also found that FGM put the women's babies in substantial danger
during childbirth. Researchers found there was an increased need to
resuscitate babies whose mother had had FGM (66% higher in women with FGM
III). The death rate among babies during and immediately after birth is also
much higher for those born to mothers with FGM: 15% higher in those with FGM
I, 32% higher in those with FGM II, and 55% higher in those with FGM III. It
is estimated that in the African context an additional 10 to 20 babies die
per 1000 deliveries as a result of the practice.
"This research was carried out in hospitals where the obstetric staff are
used to dealing with women who have undergone FGM. The consequences for the
countless women and babies who deliver at home without the help of
experienced staff are likely to be even worse," added WHO's Dr Paul Van
Look, Director of the Special Programme for Human Reproduction Research
(HRP) which organized the study.
The study involved 28,393 women at 28 obstetric centres in six countries,
where FGM is common - Burkina Faso, Ghana, Kenya, Nigeria, Senegal and
Sudan. The centres varied from relatively isolated rural hospitals to
teaching hospitals in capital cities. They were chosen to provide
appropriate diversity of types of FGM.
"These findings are of great importance for countries," said Professor Saad
M El Fadil, the study Principal Investigator in Sudan. "This high-quality
research was carried out in numerous hospitals in African countries where
FGM is common and for the first time gives clear evidence of its harmful
effects for women and babies."
FGM is a common practice in a number of countries, predominantly in Africa.
It involves partial or total removal of the external female genitalia or
other deliberate injury to the female genital organs whether for cultural or
non- therapeutic reasons. Over 100 million women and girls are estimated to
have had FGM worldwide.
Although practices vary from country to country, FGM is generally performed
on girls under 10 years of age and leads to varying amounts of scar
formation. It is not entirely clear why FGM leads to increased complications
during childbirth, but one possible explanation is that this scar tissue is
relatively inelastic and can lead to obstruction and tearing of the tissues
around the vagina during childbirth. Obstruction can lead to prolonged
labour, which increases the risk of caesarean section, heavy bleeding,
distress in the infant and stillbirth. Women with FGM are also more likely
to undergo episiotomy (surgical cut during delivery to prevent vaginal
tears).
According to Associate Professor Emily Banks of the Australian National
University, "This study shows that where around 5.0% of babies born to women
without FGM were stillborn or died shortly after delivery, this figure
increased to 6.4% in babies born to women with FGM. In many parts of Africa
death rates are even higher and the impact of FGM is likely to be even
greater."
The authors of the study say that this new evidence is of crucial importance
to communities where FGM is practiced, both for the women who have had FGM
and to protect future generations of women and girls from FGM. FGM remains a
pressing human rights issue and reliable evidence regarding its harmful
effects, both for mothers and their babies, should contribute to the
abandonment of the practice. WHO is committed to work with international
partners and countries to eliminate FGM. It is in direct violation of young
girls¹ rights, has both short-term and long-term adverse health
consequences, and is an unnecessary procedure.

*Note: Female genital mutilation (FGM), often referred to as 'female
circumcision', covers all procedures involving partial or total removal of
the external female genitalia or other injury to the female genital organs
whether for cultural, religious or other non-therapeutic reasons. There are
different types of female genital mutilation known to be practised today.
They include:
€ Type I (FGM 1) - excision of the prepuce, with or without excision
of part or all of the clitoris;
€ Type II (FGM II) - excision of the clitoris with partial or total
excision of the labia minora;
€ Type III (FGM III) - excision of part or all of the external
genitalia and stitching/narrowing of the vaginal opening (infibulation)
For further information please contact:

Mr Christopher Powell
Communications Advisor
WHO/Family and Community Health
Telephone: +41 22 791 2888
Mobile: +41 79 217 3425
Emailpowellc@who.int

WHO FGM study group
Telephone: + 41 22 791 3374
Fax: +41 22 791 4171
Email:FGMstudygroup@who.int
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What's the next action you will take
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who has a Miracle to share?
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I'm pretty excited. Karen Strange, a midwife who is famous throughout N. America for being the best neonatal resuscitation teacher, has just sent out the following letter to midwives in the Pac NW.

Special letter from Karen to people who live in the northwest



There is an extraordinary, unusual conference in your backyard (Seattle) a month from now August 24-25th.. The International Symposium on Genital Integrity. It brings together one of the most diverse groups of people you’re likely to hear in one conference (in terms of ethnicity, religion, culture and professional background). At least one midwife and several birth advocates will speak. Suzanne Arms will give the closing talk (Fabulous, if you’ve never heard her) Plus, a special slideshow tribute to Jeannine Parvati, whom we all lost far too soon last December.



You, as a doula, nurse or midwife, want to empower women as fierce and protective mothers, may encounter some women who have had genital mutilation. You are certainly encountering prospective parents who are considering circumcising their newborn son. Women have to take a stronger role in all forms of violence and abuse, so this is certainly a women’s issue!



As someone passionate about birth, health and babies, this conference would certainly interest you. I personally believe that what it covers should be part of midwifery, doula, nursing and medical education and training…... because it addresses the roots of violence, depression, addiction and so much more.



I know that as someone committed to your own personal healing, you will certainly find a lot of what is presented at this conference provocative and meaningful.



I would like you to do 2 things as soon as you finish reading this:

1) Go to the following website www.nocirc.org Read the program and print out a copy for yourself

2) Forward this email to friends and colleagues in the following fields: psychotherapy, bodywork and healing. They deal with the impact of trauma on individuals and families. Also, please forward this email to any birth or parent educator and women’s studies students or professors.



Most people in our society still don’t connect the dots or understand the big picture about why our culture is so violent and why so many refuse to address the crises the world is facing. After this conference you will connect the dots and be able to help others understand the depth of this.



Warmly, Karen Strange who is heartbroken and has a prior speaking engagement…please go for me!



My hope is that 50 people from around the Seattle and Vancouver area and another 25 from the Oregon area will go to this conference. You will meet others equally interested in helping create a shift in how we care for babies and children reducing trauma in the primal period.

________________________________________________en d of letter.

Please pass this on to mws and doulas that you know. Baybee
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An ongoing letter writing campaign to try to get circ defunded with the top 10 HMO's in the country.

My pitch to them?

You will save millions of dollars annually if you discontinue this "elective" non-theraputic procedure. More money will be available for legitimate medical treatments and more profits too! $$$$$
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Cool thread. I've been wondering what I can do to help, so this was great to read. Hopefully I'll be going to my first NOCIRC meeting this weekend (depending on how I feel). Honestly, until recently I didn't even realize there was a group around here. While I have been very anti-circumcision/pro-intact since I was first pregnant - coming here is turning me into more of an activist about it.
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It's official. The state of Texas is no longer funding male genital mutilation on Medicaid. Here's the post I just received from George at D. O. C.. I am so thrilled and excited.

Gloria:

We have confirmation of this. Texas stopped paying for CPT code 54150 circumcisions sometime last year. 54150 denotes neonatal circumcision performed with a clamp. This is the common type of circumcision.

Furthermore, it appears that 48 percent of births in Texas are funded by Medicaid. So 48 percent of boys will not be covered by circumcision.

There are about 194,000 boys born annually in Texas.

That means that 93,000 boys will not be covered for circumcision.

This is huge because Texas is huge.

This could mean a drop of 50,000 circumcisions per year.

This could drop Amerca's circumcision rate by 3 percent.

George

So, we heard it here on MDC first and, then, got the confirmation. I'd love to see a big press release flurry going out and congratulating the State of Texas and milking this good news for all we can get. I'm sure it will start the other states pushing in the same direction. Yayyyyyy!!!!! Congratulations to everyone. . . this is such a big win for all of us.

Spread the glad tidings of great joy throughout the kingdom!!!!
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That's great news... but it sorta sounds like practitioners might just change to a non-clamp procedure )-:
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So true, when people are bound and determined to do something they will find a million and one ways to "get around" the system. We have heard recent reports of medical fraud where the drs bill for something else that is allowed. Apparently there is a reward for exposing Medicaid fraud so I am trying to get specifics that I can report on that fraud and will donate the reward to NOCIRC.

The big news here, really, is that the circumcision machinery has been interrrupted. Every dr, nurse and parent has to stop in their tracks and say "Why has Medicaid deemed this to be unnecessary?" That interruption in the automaticity will also happen in other state Medicaid agencies when they ask "Why have 17 other states ended this and why are we still doling out millions every year for an unnecessary and ultimately harmful surgery?" It's all part of our river of education so that every boy can have his foreskin for keeps.
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